The Stadium Thread

iheartskins said:
In the ongoing timeline of any franchise, change is obviously inevitable.

Increasingly, stadiums are designed to be occupied continuously instead of just on game days and as real estate plays to draw continual revenue irrespective of the season/weather/success of the team. And in this way, the supplementary revenue derived by ownership from leasing retail/residential/commercial space next the stadium is a huge draw as it's generally uncorrelated with the success of the team. So much better "all weather" investment.

On that basis, situating the stadium within DC and providing the "urban renewal" / "gentrification" etc. notwithstanding the NIMBYism attendant to doing so will likely carry the day on the basis of the dollars involved.

The gameday experience will have to change along with it - tailgating will evolve (hopefully not to the point of extinction) and I'm certain that we'll all be paying way more for food/drinks/etc. if any other urban stadium experience is any guide.
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You are correct and your points solid.

Being a prisoner to nostalgia, I would personally prefer we emulate Lambeau Field and the environs. Lambeau has more seating (than RFK) yet sits on less total space. There is suitable parking and a number of commercial establshments geared towards the gameday experience. And it sits right in the middle of a residential neighborhood. I went to the Skins-Packers MNF game in 2001. Hated the result, but the experience was incredible.

I know, apples to oranges. But a man can dream.
 
Speaking of tailgating:

LOVERRO: Tailgating unlikely to survive transition to District’s compact new RFK stadium​


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No tailgating?

That’s the word on the proposed plans for a new Washington Commanders stadium at the old RFK site.


Oh, they might end up saving a symbolic sliver of asphalt somewhere just to keep a cherished football tradition on life support. But in the ambitious stadium-parks-retail project that Mayor Muriel Bowser keeps promising, there is precious little consideration for beer and cookouts in the parking lot.”

More at link:

 
If tailgates are to become a thing of the past, what do fans want to replace them that they think the team has a reasonable chance of providing? Is there anything?
 
iheartskins said:
If tailgates are to become a thing of the past, what do fans want to replace them that they think the team has a reasonable chance of providing? Is there anything?
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$1 beers. .50 hot dogs. $5 dunk tank filled with pirranahs with Dan Snyder and Bruce Allen alternating on the platform.
 
The new house republican budget apparently cuts $1 billion dollars out of the DC budget for this fiscal year. Apparently the senate has proposed a fix for this to go back to the house.

I have a hard time seeing DC approving anything for a stadium if they are cutting school and police staff because of their budget.
 
Oof. That doesn't feel great.

Why exclude the NHL and MLS though?
 
Anselmheifer said:
The new house republican budget apparently cuts $1 billion dollars out of the DC budget for this fiscal year. Apparently the senate has proposed a fix for this to go back to the house.

I have a hard time seeing DC approving anything for a stadium if they are cutting school and police staff because of their budget.
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Question: is DC footing the bill for the stadium or is Harris?
 
ArtMonkWasMyHero said:
Question: is DC footing the bill for the stadium or is Harris?
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No one knows, but part of DC approach to luring the team back surely will have to do with the incentives and goodies they can offer. If Maryland or Virginia outbids them DC will miss out.
 
burgold said:
No one knows, but part of DC approach to luring the team back surely will have to do with the incentives and goodies they can offer. If Maryland or Virginia outbids them DC will miss out.
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Makes sense. DC should be able to pull it off, but ....

I still remember the negotiations between JKC and Mayor Kelly. I used to blame her but now realize that JKC at that phase of his life could not have been the easiest man to deal with. Seems there is so much that can go wrong and too many people involved.
 
ArtMonkWasMyHero said:
Makes sense. DC should be able to pull it off, but ....

I still remember the negotiations between JKC and Mayor Kelly. I used to blame her but now realize that JKC at that phase of his life could not have been the easiest man to deal with. Seems there is so much that can go wrong and too many people involved.
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Not to mention politics. The normal sort and the extraordinary kind.
 
Conn said:
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It’s interesting on this survey, is that Allegiant, SoFi, and Levi stadiums are so low. They all look like amazing stadiums. It must be the cost that has the reviews so low. I heard on a national sports talk show that locals in Vegas are not able to attend the games because of the cost. Sadly, that is the way forward now, and I suspect that no matter where this new stadium ends up, it will cost so much it will have to be like a vacation trip for regular families.
 
Conn said:
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This says based on reviews. I imagine the reviews over the last 12 months are a lot different than the reviews from 2023 and before.

The stadium sucks, we all know that, but Harris and co have already put more money into than Snyder did. The experience now is a lot different than it was 36 months ago, and it's not 'only' the winning. You give 25 years of crappy google reviews, it's gonna take a while to dig out of that hole.
 
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