Commanders vs. Seahawks Day After Tell The Truth Oh My Goodness Thread

[skinzplay]

Voice_of_Reason Every quarterback in the same situation? Should Sean Payton have benched Bo Nix when Denver was losing 32-0 in the 4th quarter a couple weeks ago? Was that game absolutely over?

I get pulling guys when it’s over, but it’s not over until it’s over. DQ was right on that edge, but I really don’t blame him. He said he was going to pull them the next series, fine. He said it was a mistake, fine.

Jayden’s hurt and it sucks. Hopefully he is back to full health soon.

I think it was the context that made the decision troubling. Jayden was literally running for his life all game, that pressure wasn't letting up even with their reserve DL players in the game. Nothing good was gonna come of keeping him in there.

 

[Boone]

And he’s been hurt twice already this season

 

[Mike MacDonald]

That you, Brian?

Yep...

Told ya so.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Tua and the Miami Dolphins is not an example that I would like our team to follow in any capacity.

If it’s not the norm to take the starter out after conceding defeat by punting from midfield the possession prior, then why were so many people perplexed and actively posting on social media, this very board, etc. - asking why Daniels was still on the field?

Again I am not arguing that Jayden should have been left in the game, I said that I agree it was a mistake and so did Quinn. I'm simply arguing that it's not the norm to pull a starting QB after the game had been decided. Tua was simply a recent example of a coach leaving in a starter with an injury history long after the game was decided, so was Stafford and if I looked back I'm sure I could find other examples.

Edit: In looking back to the week before Herbert played the entire game and it was 37-10 in the 4th quarter. Cousins played the entire game in Atlanta's 34-10 loss to the Finns. NE drummed the Browns 32-13 and both starters finished the game, so did Daulton in a 40-9 blowout loss.

In fact in every blowout from the past 2 weeks I couldn't find any QB who was taken out of the game other than Ratler in New Orleans but that was because he sucked.

 

[Commander Wraith]

I think it was the context that made the decision troubling. Jayden was literally running for his life all game, that pressure wasn't letting up even with their reserve DL players in the game. Nothing good was gonna come of keeping him in there.

Yeah, I don’t have a general problem with keeping your qb in during a blowout, but situationally there are times I for sure would pull him. In the situation we were in… should’ve pulled him.

 

[SkinsFTW]

JD is an injury waiting to happen though.

Hopefully the weapons improve next year and he won't have to try to play hero ball in the regular season just to keep from going 3-6.

 

[The Chump Bailey]

I thought we had something with 'Bill' but he seems to be hesitating now after he gets the ball. He's costing me big in one of my fantasy leagues.

Bill's an enigma of sorts to me. He's obviously an athlete, has decent wiggle and he's vision was supposed to be a plus coming out. This OL is crap though. I'd definitely want an upgrade though for sure either in FA or draft but he's worth keeping around IMO.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Bill has had nowhere to run. With decent blocking and a defense who still has to respect the pass he would be the same back we saw a month ago.

 

[CuredFromBatteredFanSyndrome]

Bill has had nowhere to run. With decent blocking and a defense who still has to respect the pass he would be the same back we saw a month ago.

There’s truth to that, but I will say that his smaller stature isn’t helping either.

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

People realize with no threats on the outside or at TE, teams are locking up the WRs man to man, succeeding and stacking 8 or 9 guys in the box to either stuff the run or pressure the QB right? I mean, that's not lost on folks?

How do you know how good the OL is when they're always trying to block more people than they have the ability to? How can you judge the RB when they're running into a brick wall?

What you want to do when teams do this is make them pay because a WR can beat 1:1 coverage and you can get big plays out of it. We have zero ability to do so.

Our injuries have turned us one dimensional. And therefore literally nothing works.

 

[SkinsNumberOne]

People realize with no threats on the outside or at TE, teams are locking up the WRs man to man, succeeding and stacking 8 or 9 guys in the box to either stuff the run or pressure the QB right? I mean, that's not lost on folks?

How do you know how good the OL is when they're always trying to block more people than they have the ability to? How can you judge the RB when they're running into a brick wall?

What you want to do when teams do this is make them pay because a WR can beat 1:1 coverage and you can get big plays out of it. We have zero ability to do so.

Our injuries have turned us one dimensional. And therefore literally nothing works.

You keep saying this - but when CRod gets 5 ypc on 12 carries, with no outlier long runs... ??
You can't really say nothing works. We just don't stick with what may work.

The story you are telling isn't backed up by facts. We aren't trying everything, so you can't say nothing works. What Kliff is doing - certainly does not work. That is certainly true. "Nothing works" cannot be said here. I'm not saying something else would work - but you can't say "nothing works."

There are other problems too - reports of WRs actually being open and not being seen by JD5. It could be a problem that is simply not getting fixed (because it has been happening for weeks). Again, this doesn't fit with your story of "no one is getting open" - it's a nice story and it "sounds true" but it's not backed up by a lot of evidence that is being shared by people.

See here:

The Jayden Daniels Tracker

Having now seen a still of the injury I don't doubt he needed some sort of surgery, it's literally 180 degrees from where it should be. The broken bit sounds wrong though as you say Chris. The broken part and the time travel necessary. 😉

www.bgobsession.com

 

[Die Hard]

Now I was told yesterday… that I was wrong… that our team is a top 10 blitzing team.

When I tried to argue our defense rarely blitzes.

According to ESPN, the Seahawks ran 48 offensive plays:

Seahawks 38-14 Commanders (Nov 2, 2025) Game Stats - ESPN

Complete team stats and game leaders for the Seattle Seahawks vs. Washington Commanders NFL game from November 2, 2025 on ESPN.

www.espn.com

This poster spliced all 7 defensive blitzes.



That’s hardly a blitzing defense.

And I’m sure SIP counted that 2nd play where Kinlaw had 2 blockers on him but then 1 shaded off him when he went outside on his rush… as a double team.

Reason #1,565,785 why I formulate my own opinions.

 

[Conn]

I mean, I’d need more information to formulate an opinion. 7/48 is 15%. How does a 15% blitz rate compare to the rest of the league? How does it compare to what we’ve done in every other game, and how does THAT compare to the rest of the league over that span? Could be low, could be significant. But no way to know from simply charting 7/48.

 

[Die Hard]

I mean, I’d need more information to formulate an opinion. 7/48 is 15%. How does a 15% blitz rate compare to the rest of the league? How does it compare to what we’ve done in every other game, and how does THAT compare to the rest of the league over that span? Could be low, could be significant. But no way to know from simply charting 7/48.

Con, you’ve been around ES and here for as long as I can remember. You’ve followed football probably as long as I have.

Unless you’re completely not paying attention, every year the top blitzing teams are blitzing at a near 40+% rate. That was the clip the Falcons DC ulbrich was blitzing at when we played them and they led the league. If 15% doesnt indicate to you that theyre on the very low end… then thats on you.

 

[Conn]

Con, you’ve been around ES and here for as long as I can remember. You’ve followed football probably as long as I have.

Unless you’re completely not paying attention, every year the top blitzing teams are blitzing at a near 40+% rate. That was the clip the Falcons DC ulbrich was blitzing at when we played them and they led the league. If 15% doesnt indicate to you that theyre on the very low end… then thats on you.

Fair point, I wasn’t meaning to be overly pedantic but what I was getting at was I’m curious how this 15% stacks up against the rest of our season. Are we doing this every week? Obviously we aren’t blitzing 40% of the time, ever, but are we always this lean on the blitz calls?

If so that would be interesting since it feels like Luvu as a full-time EDGE has been a disaster, he gets washed out easily, but as a blitzer from LB last year he made a noticeable impact. Chinn also had some success blitzing last year, and though his replacement (Harris) never really got much chance to play I wonder if they would’ve used him similarly. Seems like Reaves with his physicality would be able to blitz.

 

[SkinsNumberOne]

Fair point, I wasn’t meaning to be overly pedantic but what I was getting at was I’m curious how this 15% stacks up against the rest of our season. Are we doing this every week? Obviously we aren’t blitzing 40% of the time, ever, but are we always this lean on the blitz calls?

If so that would be interesting since it feels like Luvu as a full-time EDGE has been a disaster, he gets washed out easily, but as a blitzer from LB last year he made a noticeable impact. Chinn also had some success blitzing last year, and though his replacement (Harris) never really got much chance to play I wonder if they would’ve used him similarly. Seems like Reaves with his physicality would be able to blitz.

My understanding - they showed some stats a couple of weeks ago so I don't know how current it is, but it went like this:
- they did not tend to blitz
- they got enough pressure without blitzing (DL only)

So my understanding is this has been a year-long pattern.
It was pretty much that simple based on the stats I saw. Of course, that was with Dorance I think still available. The injuries to the DL have changed that dynamic quite a bit. Personally, I just think they are doing a really bad job with the people they have at this point.

If I were them, I would be strongly considering activating Noah I. That seems crazy strange to me.