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Welcome to the Commanders - Jayden Daniels

This is one of those things where if the virtual reality has a real effect or a placebo effect it doesn't much matter. If he thinks it Keep it going.

It does make some sense that if a program specifically is designed to train the eye to see stimuli then that could have some carryover impact.
 
burgold said:
This is one of those things where if the virtual reality has a real effect or a placebo effect it doesn't much matter. If he thinks it Keep it going.

It does make some sense that if a program specifically is designed to train the eye to see stimuli then that could have some carryover impact.
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One thing I’ll say is that formula 1 drivers train reaction and comprehension and their ability to process information is shocking to see. They have to be able to process things at almost an instinct level and take the thinking out of it.
 
Boone said:
That sounds a little hyperbolic. It's not like QBs never evade the rush at the NFL level. They do. Yes - there is more speed at most positions in the NFL, no one can argue that. But defenders will struggle to catch Jayden Daniels in the NFL too because of his mobility and lateral quickness. It is inevitable, just like with every QB, that he will be hit and sacked. It's literally true of every QB. The question isn't whether those things will happen. The question is, can Daniels adjust his game to take fewer of them and play smarter and more conservatively. As far as 'holding on to the ball too long', is that really something Daniels is known for? Sam Howell had that rep and is showed up in nearly every draft profile you'd read about him. Daniels is referenced as a quick processor who mostly throws on time and rhythm. I have not seen much if any criticism of him holding onto the ball an inordinate amount of time or frequently hesitating to get the ball out.
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Just not detailed. I don't always write a ton in replies. I don't see a huge improvement in the OLine. A bunch of guys for a bunch of slightly better guys and a rookie that there is no consensus on what he is. And with the speed change in the NFL I hope Daniels does not get killed. Yes he is fast yes he has a very good arm and seems to do well reading the field but the speed difference is always an issue in the nfl, if he can adjust and continue to do what he did last year that will be great, if not he will have a rough rookie season
 
I think what we are seeing here now that the potential trades New England turned down on draft day are being disclosed in detail is that the New York Giants and Minnesota Vikings were talking some serious **** about how much their organizations really liked JJ McCarthy.

The Giants evidently made TWO separate attempts to get NE's pick and take Maye, coming up with different combinations of picks, what year the picks were in and potentially a roster player.

The Vikings offered New England their picks at #11 and #23 as well as their #1 pick in 2025.

So, a lot of the hype for McCarthy was just that. He was in the main the 4th quarterback in the draft and remained so until the picks were made.

The same Yahoo spots article that trashed Daniels and Washington's selection made a big deal of how the Vikings got the guy they wanted and how much O'Connell was going to do with McCarthy and how much they loved him, blah, blah, blah.

The truth is McCarthy was O'Connell's SECOND choice for the prom and only was invited because his real 'crush' already had a date :p
 
I've been SUPER busy with a bunch of things. But here are my general Daniels thoughts:

- I think with him and Kliff, this offense has the possibility to be a nightmare specifically on first downs. The reason:
1. While Daniels is very good at the deep ball, he might be better at quick game. Get the ball out, on time, and accurately to receivers.
2. Kliff is going to run the damn ball on early downs with his RBs. Not as much as that buffoon Scott Turner, but he's going to mix it up.
3. Daniels himself is a run threat.

The combination of these three things means a defense is going to have to play the offense straight up on early downs. They can't key run/pass or key QB/RB. They have to key everything. That's impossible. Something will be open. They key will be finding it.

- Daniels is going to force defenses to play 11 on 11. Even if he doesn't run, he can. The threat alone is going to test opposing defenses to stay home and not gamble. That opens up running and passing lanes.

- I think you're going to see a lot of short stuff and a lot of deep stuff. Where I think this offense might get lost is in the intermediate routes.

- My biggest question about Daniels is if he has the arm talent to fire a ball into a tight window 20 yards down field. I never saw it when I watched him. Can he? I don't know. If he can, he can be really special. If he can't, he still can be very good.

- I have worked myself into the theory I don't think he's any more of an injury risk than any other QB, because they all get hurt anyway. Burrow is bigger and not a running QB, and he's missed significant time. Herbert has missed time. Mahomes has missed time. Hurts has missed time. Jackson has missed time. Richardson is 245lbs and missed most of the season last year. Literally every QB gets hurt all the time. Is Daniels more susceptible to injury? Eh. Maybe. But really, if the injury rate is 100%, then I'm not really sure if he is.

The key for him is going to be protecting himself. That means getting the ball out quickly when he's in the pocket, and not taking big hits when he's out of the pocket. The more hits he takes, the greater the risk of injury.

And he still might get hurt. In fact, it's almost a certainty he will get hurt at some point. That's just the way the cookie crumbles in the NFL.
 
Knightingale said:
That's a very interesting read. Daniel's seems to love it. This bit really jumped out at me...

“Look Jayden,” Marucci said, “You don’t have to make me feel better. I know you’ve done a lot with this. How much has this helped you with scanning the field? How much does this really impact the way you’re seeing it?”

Marucci’s hope was that Daniels’ response would be at least 5 percent. If we can get 5 percent more for a quarterback out of this, he thought, we’re doing pretty good.

Daniels pondered for a few seconds, then responded.

“Seventy-five to 80 percent,” Daniels said.

I'd be really intrigued to see Washington pick this up and see if it helps develop Daniels in his rookie season in the NFL. I'd love to know if they have any plans to use it on Daniels recommendation. It really could give them an edge in developing a rookie QB and avoiding him being a bust. Would be nice to see Washington at the cutting edge, rather than stingy-Dan not putting any investment into these kind of tools.
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Very interesting! Over the years, there were many Commanders/Redskins opponents who would get a little short bit about some fancy tools the team employed to help them.

I think the Cowboys with Dak, they did something last year, maybe it was VR or AR? Not sure.

1-2 years ago, I think they did something with Jalen.

There have been a few more, but one that always stuck with me was McNabb as an Eagle, they showed some visor he wore, and it flashed his eyes so it would seem like he was getting his vision blocked by linemen; he would have to throw while seeing his targets through these flashes.

In most of these cases, probably happenstance, the Redskins/Commanders got torched. It would indeed be nice to see the Commanders be on the side of doing the little extras. Yes, that would be nice.
 
the old adage is that most battles are won before they are fought :)

In the NFL you have to tailor scheme to personnel and game-plan for each opponent in turn, for some inexplicable reason Ron Rivera thought he could chart a different course.

We ran the same plays and sequences on offense with Sam regardless of the opponent. Game-planning on defense was not necessarily recognizable.

There were games where an opponent had ONE big offensive producer and yet instead of taking that player out of the game, etc. we ended up with that receiver in man coverage against a Forbes or Martin and it was not really all that competitive.

It all smacked of what Norv Turner was trying to spin as 'what we do works' dictum back in the day.
 
Bulldog said:
It all smacked of what Norv Turner was trying to spin as 'what we do works' dictum back in the day.
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What’s so interesting about Norv is what he did worked for decades. When he was an OC. But in watching his HC gigs, it didn’t work as well.

I don’t know why. Norv is a legitimate offensive genius. But a terrible HC.

Hell, Troy loves him so much he asked Norv to introduce him at his HOF induction ceremony.

Given what happened with Ben Johnson, i actually kindof wondered if he saw himself like Norv. Great OC. I’ll let somebody else be the HC.
 
What undid Norv more than anything else as a head coach was his inability to contribute positively in personnel evaluation.

He was in essence his own worst enemy.

Agreed that he was a good offensive coordinator and a great one for 4 years in Dallas when he had Aikman, Smith and Irvin to count on along with one of the best offensive lines in the game.
 
It's going to be really fascinating watching how they handle Jayden Daniels introduction to the NFL. With a seasoned (if flawed) vet like Marcus Mariota on board, there is no requirement to throw Jayden Daniels into the fire as a day 1 rookie QB starter. But I'm going to go ahead and put the idea out there, I believe it's quite possible, perhaps even likely, that Daniels is under center as the starter in the season opener.

It's clear from statements from Dan Quinn and Adam Peters that they want to win - immediately. That doesn't mean that they aren't committed to building for the long haul, but the reluctance to call this a 'rebuild' and this being Quinn's long-awaited 'prove it' gig lead me to believe they are going to lean heavily towards the guy they think gives them the best chance to win - immediately.

Mariota has some talent, but he's no NFL starter. Based on nothing more than a quick assessment of overall QB ability, I think Daniels in several tiers better than Mariota. Daniels has a reputation for having a very good work ethic, a sense of personal determination, and I think he will put in the work to earn the starting gig between now and September. Some will argue that we 'don't need' to throw Daniels in there immediately and reference the benefits of having him sit and learn.

Lots of reasons I don't think that happens here though. For starters, Quinn needs to win - sooner rather than later, not because he's on any kind of a short leash, but because he is looking to get rid of the bad taste in his mouth from his first head coaching gig and to prove he has learned a great deal from that experience. Secondly, Peters comes from an org that has had no hesitation in throwing inexperienced QBs into the fray. And with a new offensive coordinator and offense, it is going to take time for it all to mesh and gel - so why not begin that process with your eventual starter from the outset? If you're Kliff Kingsbury, are you telling me you're not going to be chomping at the bit to see what Daniels can do is an aggressive passing offense? Finally, one of the things that got a lot of attention in pre-draft discussions was how much more polished and pro-ready Daniels was than some of the other QBs reportedly 'on the list' for the Commanders. This doesn't appear to be a kid who a) is going to require years to learn how to manage an NFL offense, or b) will be intimidated by the challenge of being a 1st year starter.

I know it's early. But I think it's highly likely we see Jayden Daniels seize control of the starting gig early and not relinquish it.
 
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I think you’re right. Daniels may be a rookie, but unless he shows he can’t in practice and preseason he’ll be the man. But there’s a reason outside Daniels which is while Mariota may be a vet he’s still a rookie in this system.

So, no matter which QB we go with there’s a big learning curve.
 
Barring something exceptional Daniels starting is a fait accompli. The learning curve post camp shouldn’t be all that big. They don’t need to put the entire playbook in at once.
 
Really intrigued to see if the VR technology helps adjust Daniels ability to up his processing to NFL speeds. Could it be a tool that helps prevent as many 1st round QBs from being busts?
 
Keyshawn is actually pretty entertaining….
 
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