I believe those 2 situations happened because of the government's overwhelming force. There were some over zealous agents in both situations who were not kept honest by the opposing force.
And I believe the Feds backed down during the Cliven Bundy standoff in Nevada because they did not have an show of overwhelming force.
When faced with an equal force of armed ranchers, the Feds backed down.
Of course authorities could have brought in more troops, but the ranchers in support of Bundy kept growing as well. It would have been a terrible blemish on Obama's record that he could not have spun.
Chalk one up for the importance of the 2nd amendment.
Back to TV. Chris, I tried to do the Patriot. At the conclusion of the opening scene, I thought I was hooked. However, as the show progressed, I found myself disinterested.