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- Jul 16, 2009
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Nobody said aim low. You get what you get. If we get a 1st that would be fantastic. I don't think it will happen but I wouldn't say no.if yall want to aim low and end up with less than you could get, cool. we could get a 1st for him, and a good negotiator could probably get us a 1st and a future for him. just because we are in a "rebuild" doesn't mean we need to take whatever we are given.
Nobody said aim low. You get what you get. If we get a 1st that would be fantastic. I don't think it will happen but I wouldn't say no.
I think we blew our chances for a 1st when we held onto him all season long, and there were rumors of a team or two maybe going that high for him. Teams are desperate during the season when options are low. That's when we had a shot at a 1st. In the offseason, with the draft coming up ... I seriously doubt we get that lucky. I doubt anyone will offer more than a 3rd at this point. The guy is old, cranky and expensive.
It was the Browns. That was a very valid offer and they tried to keep it going as long as they could. Bruce did him dirty on that one.I know there were rumors of a 1st round offer but I also remember teams denying that. Not sure that’s a fact. I’m suspicious of it being a fact because it was put out there as further evidence of Bruce Allen’s incompetence and folks would seize on anything if it supported that viewpoint.
This is absolutely true, but they have the draft capital to replace their LT with a glut in the LT market this draft. At the number 10 they will likely be able to land Tristan Wirfs from Iowa.It was the Browns. That was a very valid offer and they tried to keep it going as long as they could. Bruce did him dirty on that one.
They also just lost an OL (free agency) who is now facing 20 years in prison. The Browns are as desperate now as they were then for OL. An "old, cranky, expensive" OL might just be what they go for.
They do...but, word is the Vagiants want him as well. I am not sure how burned the bridge is between our two teams, but we do play them this year in Cleveland so it could be VERY interesting.This is absolutely true, but they have the draft capital to replace their LT with a glut in the LT market this draft. At the number 10 they will likely be able to land Tristan Wirfs from Iowa.
That’s reasonable. If we can figure it out with h that would be ok, too.Whatever we do, LT is the single most important position of need, and we have a damned good one under contract. Let's figure something out to make all sides happy until we can move on in 2 years when we'll absolutely need one. Like Bulldog said, the Eagles stuck with Peters, just like the Rams stuck with a 38 year old Whitworth, because good LT's are hard to find. Trent is still more talented than either of them.
We've won games without him.Having Trent Williams at LT never won us a playoff game. It never kept our QBs from getting sacked or even from getting injured. LT is important, but all of the 'you have to have a great LT to be successful' stuff is way overblown. Is it the most important position on the OL? Maybe. Or maybe not. He's old. He sat and watched his team get crushed over and over for a year. He told half-truths through surrogates to gain sympathy. And he wants big money after already getting big money. I wouldn't blink an eye if they traded him. Good luck at your next stop.
If I am rebuilding I trade Trent and Scherff.
I start the 23 year old Martin at one guard spot and resign the 26 year old Flowers to be the other guard.
If I am looking to make a one year bounce back to try and be a wildcard contender I resign Trent and do what I can to keep Scherff for 2020, including using the franchise tag.
Thats just it, we're limited with who we can get. Not enough draft picks and there are no better LT's out there. Were not talking about a bank buster extension. Just give the cat a modest extension, ride him wet and put him out to pasture in 2 years as we build other areas of need.We've won games without him.
So tired of Trent this,Trent that. Find someone who actually wants to be here.
And this is where I stand. I just happen to think it would be foolish to let the best option we have at LT, walk out the door for a couple dollars we can afford at this point. It gives us some time to build other areas of need like RT, CB, WR, RB, S, LB...For the record, if Rivera decides holding onto Trent is the expedient thing to do for now, I'm fine with it. I just wouldn't shed a tear if they sent his ass packing.
So who do you start at LT? The best you'll get for TW is a 2nd...while the T market is deep in the draft this season, I doubt we'll get someone from college to come in and start right away with a 2nd round pick.Considering all the drama surrounding Trent a year ago, I am hoping that we part ways with him. He likely has another year or two of good football left in the tank and I do not see the team competing for championships in that window. To me, now is the time to acquire draft capital and let this team grow together. Rivera is under no pressure to win in year 1 in my estimation. It's all about cleansing the organization, and lets not kid ourselves into believing that Trent has not done his fair share in terms of leaving some stains on it.