I also think a lot of people won’t admit that there are some fan emotions tied up in Kliff working out here that don’t ever get mentioned. After we were spurned by Ben Johnson, and then seemingly settled for a retread defensive guy, a LOT of people engaged in massive cope by becoming enamored with the idea that it was okay, because we actually got the offensive stud who won’t get hired away anyways! Kliff is a QB guru who hated being a HC and can be our permanent stud playcaller and he’s still only in his 40’s and energized! That’s basically the whole reason you want to hire a younger OC as HC anyways, so he can’t be stolen when your offense is elite! We cracked the damn code! Glory forever, fuck you Ben Johnson!
Now that this isn’t what happened…some people need to confront that we’re still the team with the young franchise QB stuck with the defensive HC and no security or guarantees at OC. The nightmare scenario.
I’m not saying that applies to anyone who questions this move, obviously. But when I see people freaking the fuck out on twitter, who aren’t all as plugged into the team and thought we had “offensive genius to pair with Daniels” all figured out despite hiring Quinn…there’s a lot of people crashing down to earth right now who are pissed. They lent Kliff a trust and gravitas maybe beyond what he deserved as a way to get over the Ben Johnson dream/assumption, and now the harsh light of day shines on them. And to make it worse, Ben Johnson seems like the real deal and Caleb might not bust and their joke FO actually provided tons of weapons to their guys. So the cognitive dissonance is glaring.
That doesn't apply to me. But yeah I am sure it does to some, I get the point.
I've put a lot of thought into some aspects of football but never a ton into comparing offensive schemes. I like the bunch sets, play action, outside zone aspects of McVay-Kyle's offense albiet McVay is always changing it, more duo-gap runs, etc. But I am more of a timing based love of play calling versus a specific style. When the coach times this or times that versus what scheme they use is what I care about more. Thus if someone says get Slowik because of Shanny's system or whatever it doesn't move me.
So my thoughts about Kliff don't run deep. My liking of him is more driven by macro performance. Look at how inept Andy Reid's offense looks like without Mahomes? lol, Kliff is moving the ball with Josh Johnson. So on a macro level, I think he's been fine. Whitt IMO has underperformed his talent or at a minimum didn't make lemonade out of lemons. Kliff IMO had made lemonade out of lemons enough. I also do care that Jayden digs working with him. And IMHO this FO hasn't done much to help or pander to Jayden.
But outside of that, I don't have strong emotions. And I like the give me the new shiny toy coordinator and the cool new narrative as much as anyone. There is some fun to any new coordinator. But aside from that the only thing I like about this is if we wanted a FO and coachiing staff that feels this off season needs to be about bringing changes, they are screaming that loud and clear.
For me, I want to see the hires before I react at this point. i am worried that Quinn botches round 2 of this -- not because of incompetence but more because of him making personality driven choices. Raheem Morris would be a text book case of this. He's not by reputation the best coordinator, but he's a big name and he fits this we all love each other brotherhood theme.
And I am not against the brotherhood stuff, but to me their identity has to transcend just the brotherhood stuff. Kliff not willing to bend to Quinn's wishes goes against the brotherhood theme -- OK he's the HC its his call but I don't want the offensive coordinator to be sort of the Raheem Morris for that side of the ball.