QB or not QB

I think 2022 is a cautionary tale in re quarterbacks. You don't want to give up the chance to draft a franchise quarterback in a year like 2024 where there are several good candidates (none are perfect) because trading down may net a lot of picks but that next draft may not have the same level of prospects.

So, if you move down (assuming you want to) you want to stay in range to still take a qb from the 2024 class.

Kenny Pickett, Desmond Ridder, Malik Willis - these were the top quarterbacks in 2022.

Those guys IMO don't rate in the top 5 of what we have in 2024 to consider in terms of picks. Williams, Maye, Daniels, Nix and Penix are ALL better prospects.

The last two quarterbacks taken in 2022, Howell and Purdy, were the toast of the class.
 
Tim Hasselbeck - Drake Maye is the best prospect and should be taken #1 overall.

Merril Hoge - Drake Maye is a middle second round pick and slots behind McCarthy and is in there with Penix as a talented developmental quarterback.

Glad to see we are all in agreement!

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Hoge’s takes are always all over the place
 
Hoge is a guy I never take seriously. He has a one tracked mind on how he views football. And if you don’t fit his outdated model, he won’t like you.
 
I have to laugh because the pictures they had next to each other of Drake Maye and Jayden Daniels in uniform when Hasselbeck was talking made it seem as if Daniels was a high school player in stature compared to Maye, who already looked like an NFLer :ROFLMAO:
 
I will always lean on former QB takes than other positional players.
 
Most of the nimrods who evaluate draft picks are not trying to be right. They're trying to be interesting. Because there is literally NO NEW INFORMATION for about 4 months between the end of January to the draft except combine workouts and pro-days. And none of the top prospects do anything at the combine.

So they have to fill air with something.

I have long thought Mel goes the opposite way on certain picks just so that he can yell and scream about it for months with other people, and then criticize the pick when it's made. And given half the picks don't work out anyway, he's right at least half the time. Also, Mel should be in the HOF for being a revolutionary and basically inventing the draft coverage we have now. NOT for ever being right on anything. Hell, his most famous diatribe, when he went after the colts for picking a LB, was because he was in the tank for Trent Freaking Dilfer. Who, yes, I know, has a SB ring because he did a fantastic job turning around and handing the ball off and relying on one of the top 3 defenses of all time. But he wasn't THAT good. Bill Tobin, in response to Mel, said "Who is Mel Kiper anyway?" The answer, Bill, is a mad genius who got under your skin. (But he wasn't right.)

Chris Simms is one of my least favorites. I have a vendetta against Thor Nystrom. He's my nemesis, and if I ever see him on the street I will cast him an evil scowl. (that's about as far as my vengeance goes.)

None of these guys are trying to get anything right.

I do think, btw, there is an off chance Daniels falls like a rock in the draft. How far? Not sure. And I think the media is going to lose it's mind. They have group-thought themselves into him possibly being a candidate for the #1 overall pick. But Daniels has to be presented as a run threat in order to be successful because he does not have a top 15 NFL arm. He can hit fades, but he can't drive balls into small windows down field. The way you counter that is you present the QB as a run threat to draw defenders up to make windows bigger. He probably gets 10 carries a game, either on designed runs or scrambles.

That's 170 runs in a season. At 6-4, 200lbs. I think the NFL is going to see that as "eeeeekkkkk."

So there is a world where the Bears take Williams, we take Maye, and the Vikings trade up to #3 to take McCarthy. (Who I think is overrated, but might be the safer pick, and certainly would be safer for them where they are located.)

Arizona stays put and takes Marvin Harrison Jr.

The Chargers aren't taking a QB. They could just sit pat and take the best tackle on the board.

All of a sudden, Daniels is at 6. I don't think he slips past that.

I don't THINK that will happen, but it's very possible. The injury risk for a small dual-threat QB is very high.

What I think is going to happen is Williams, Maye, Daniels (to somebody, probably the Patriots), Harrison Jr., Tackle, McCarthy to somebody, probably the Vikings.

And yeah, I REALLY think we're taking Maye. I think there is a lot of Daniels/McCarthy noise, but I think it's just that, noise. I think the pick is Maye, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's been definitively Maye from day 1.
 
Thursday night, the night before his Pro Day, according to multiple sources.
 
I hope there is a Morton's in Ann Arbor. Because we know that's where all the best dinner-recruiting meals this team has ever had have taken place.

(checks google)

There's one in Detroit. That'll do.

(And I hope they meet with all serious candidates over dinner. What you order for dinner can be psychoanalyzed to figure out how well you would process information on a 4th and goal from your 6 with the SB on the line. Trust me. I know.)
 
Great stuff from Rich Eisen. He ain't wrong.

 
The issue with Zack Wilson is he simply can’t process the game at a speed conducive to success in the NFL.

He reminds me of Heath Shuler, a guy with good athleticism and not a stupid person but just didn’t have football IQ.

Jones played well as a rookie. He handled the blitz and kept his composure in pocket. All of that evaporated in Year 2.

Justin Fields can play in the NFL. Whether he can be more than a starter rated in the 20’s is yet to be finally determined.
 
NFL+ is broadcasting the coming Pro Days for the top QBs. Starting with USC & Caleb Williams now.
 
I hope Caleb balls out so the Bears are locked in on taking him in April.
 
Well, he has nailed the ‘Coming Up’ graphic so far. 😐
 
Ive been running a lot of mock drafts and over half of them have the bears taking CW and the rest have them taking Marvin Harrison JR. Every time they don't draft CW I get 10-12 trade offers when they do draft him I get 1-2
 
Yeah, but what do the Bears do at quarterback taking Harrison Jr.?

Then you have one of the best wide receiver groups in the NFL with no one to throw them the ball, unless again the Bears are thinking that either Nix or Penix is THE guy.

Does the Bears GM, who is on the hotseat, have those kinds of stones?

Draft day with Kevin Costner was a nice movie but I don't see Ryan Poles in that kind of starring role in the real NFL :ROFLMAO:
 

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