Official Game Thread - Week 8 - Commanders @ Colts

Boone said:
In retrospect, I think spending the money to re-sign McKissic might have been a luxury we couldn't afford for a player we didn't really need. Yesterday was the first game in awhile where he even had an impact. With Curtis Samuel and Dotson's emergence, and Cam Sims and Dyami Brown filling in admirably, there are only so many balls to go around. We'd have been better served using that McKissic cash to bolster the OL, LBs, or DBs.
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Yeah, he's been pretty much invisible thus far this season. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I can see the logic though. Samuel was unreliable. Dotson wasn't proven. Brown had done nothing really last year to prove his worth. McKissic, conversely, had been out sparkplug in multiple games.

I do wonder if the longer that Heineke stays under center, the more we might see the likes of Thomas (who, when not injured, has also been kind of invisible this year) and McKissic being more involved. They're targets he's familiar with.
It's already clear that he's way more comfortable going to Terry than Wentz is.
 
An exhilarating comeback victory worthy of Captain Comeback himself, Roger Staubach. This will easily go down as one of my favorite Washington wins of all time!

Taylor Heinicke is my favorite Washington QB since Joe Theismann and he may very well be the best QB this team has had since Joe Theismann.

Heinicke has some of the best QB instincts in the pocket that I've ever seen. There is no denying anymore that this guy is special.
 
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burgold said:
Except for on that interception where Taylor threw it into triple coverage. Every QB is allowed an oops, but on the replay it was a really awful decision. Tight coverage, five defenders in the area and no chance for a reception. That wasn't a 50/50 ball that was a 1/99 ball.
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Heinicke's arm was hit on the throw and he was under a lot of pressure. Those types of INTs happen to every single QB in this league.

Sometimes you make the correct split second decision and sometimes you don't. However, Heinicke's competitiveness, athletic ability, composure, and short memory are the great equalizers that can overcome those mistakes.
 
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Kel Varnsen said:
I don't know how they won that game. I just can't explain it. Terry is just a monster and Taylor finds him, especially on broken plays. Today, it was the play that mattered. I still can't figure out how that works, but I'll take it. It's good to be on the side of winning one you can't explain instead of being on the losing end like they have so many times over the years.
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I can explain it -- Taylor Heinicke. The dude has ice water in his veins and composure under pressure that simply cannot be taught.

Actually, Heinicke's best play in the game was his beautiful 4th down scramble and pass to Curtis Samuel on that last drive. That was even better than his pass to McLaurin.
 
Boone said:
I think the idea that Heinicke is some upgrade over Wentz is pretty shaky ground. He makes the same questionable decisions Wentz does. Pick your poison. I do like his toughness in pressure situations. And so far in his career, he's had luck with him more often than not, and that's a very good thing, because he likes to throw balls up for grabs in critical situations.
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Here are the biggest problems with Wentz -- he takes too many sacks and his accuracy is not as good as Heinicke's.

Wentz kills drives all by himself with his poor accuracy on first and second down throws and by taking too many sacks. Heinicke does not have those problems. As a result, Washington is in too many 3rd and long situations when Wentz is QB and he is not good enough to overcome 3rd and long situations.

Wentz also has a lot more 3 and outs than Heinicke does, due to the problems that I just noted above. That also puts more pressure on our defense, because they are on the field more often when Wentz is QB.

If we're lucky, Wentz will never take a snap for this team again. This team is 2 - 6 right now if Wentz was the QB during the last 2 games.
 
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Heinicke is much more appealing than Wentz simply due to the contract differential. Wentz appears done to me though but neither are long or medium term solutions. At least Taylor currently provides at least some short-term hope because he is not a concrete statue.
 
Chris said:
Heinicke is much more appealing than Wentz simply due to the contract differential. Wentz appears done to me though but neither are long or medium term solutions. At least Taylor currently provides at least some short-term hope because he is not a concrete statue.
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I don't think you are giving Heinicke enough credit. His instincts in the pocket are elite, among the best in the league.

Not many QBs in this league would have scored 10 points in the final 5 minutes yesterday and won that game.
 
Theismann To HOF said:
I don't think you are giving Heinicke enough credit. His instincts in the pocket are elite, among the best in the league.

Not many QBs in this league would have scored 10 points in the final 5 minutes yesterday and won that game.
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There are a bunch of QBs in the league that wouldn’t have had to.
 
Chris said:
There are a bunch of QBs in the league that wouldn’t have had to.
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If you say so. That Colts defense was no joke. If they can fix their fumbling problems, they can be a dangerous team in the playoffs.

Heinicke played an extremely good game yesterday, on the road in a very hostile environment against a solid defense. His arm was hit on that INT, which happens to every QB in the league.

Personally, I think Washington ran the ball too much during the first 3 quarters. Heinicke had some success throwing the ball in the second quarter. I wish they had done that a little more often. Washington just ran the ball a little too much on first and second down yesterday.
 
You're back alright. Taylor has had a good couple of games, but "best in the league" just isn't true.
 
MikefromOH said:
You're back alright. Taylor has had a good couple of games, but "best in the league" just isn't true.
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You don't think Heinicke's instincts in the pocket are elite? They certainly are.

That 4th down scramble and throw to Samuels was beautiful. Wentz certainly doesn't make that play in a million years.
 
Theismann To HOF said:
You don't think Heinicke's instincts in the pocket are elite? They certainly are.

That 4th down scramble and throw to Samuels was beautiful. Wentz certainly doesn't make that play in a million years.
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No, and I guarantee you I'm not alone in that thought. He's made good plays but he's not elite.
 
MikefromOH said:
No, and I guarantee you I'm not alone in that thought. He's made good plays but he's not elite.
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I said his instincts are elite.

I've watched football for 40 years and Heinicke's instincts in the pocket are better than 90% of the QBs in this league. Very few QBs in this league can accomplish what Heinicke did in the final 7 - 8 minutes of that game.
 
40 whole years?!!

Gee wilickers! You're so cool!!

He's not even better than 60% of the QBs...and I'm a fan.
 
Theismann To HOF said:
Teams can win Super Bowls with a QB like Heinicke. He is that special. He is the best QB this team has had since Theismann.
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Teams win with QBs like dilfer and McMahon...doesn't make them "elite".
 
We scored 7 points in 55 minutes of that game.

We've scored 23 and 17 with Taylor. Thats 40 points in 2 games at an AVG of 20 against 2 teams in turmoil themselves. If we had an Avg of 20 PPG, we'd still be bottom 1/3rd of the league in points... 22nd in fact, so let's not act like the offense has somehow become unlocked. My argument all along is that there's more than just the QB when talking about an offense, and the last two games have looked very similar to the offense of the weeks before... disappearing for literal quarters on end.

Heinicke's arm limitations prevented that throw to Terry from being a walk in TD. Terry had 3 steps and had to slow down and make an absolutely amazing play to extend the game. The concerns with Taylor haven't changed. Indy also only scored 16 points... 16.

Heinicke made some plays when he needed to. He showed grit and he showed heart. Guys like to play with him because he's going to leave it 100% on the field... but he is who he is... and a lot of us love him for it... we can just call a spade a spade.
 
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