Is it time to sit JD?

Is it time to sit JD?

  • Yes. This season is a disaster. Bubble wrap him.

    Votes: 31 56.4%
  • No. He needs every snap he can get despite the risk.

    Votes: 24 43.6%

  • Total voters
    55
If a guy can play they should probably play, qb included. Otherwise sit everybody. Never play them in preseason. Take everyone out the second it looks like we will win.
This is the first time its kind of the same injury. He couldve come back in.
If weve got to be skittish about him getting injured, its never going to be a good time to play him. Seasons are long


Exactly my thought.

If we want to park him for the game this weekend, sure, but i'm not ready to say he shouldn't play another down this season. Reps are a part of the development, they're valuable regardless of record and season standings.... especially against NFC East opponents.

If there's a legit concern of additional damage long term, you save the player from themselves. He went down hard and was in pain, but Quinn already said he 'could' have returned... which leads me to believe there was no structural damage, it just hurt like hell. I want him to get as much playing time as possible while he grows. Experience is a learning tool that literally cannot be matched in any form. Every training tool attempts to get close to game reps, but they can never actually duplicate it.
 
we think about another rookie that doesn't give off RG3 vibes.
Is there someone resembling Taysom Hill in the draft at QB? Seriously, that's all I'd put my chips in for...a giant that can do anything...they're very few and far between.
We just don't have the "giant" part, he's a small guy trying to do a lot, and he wasn't ready this week. We all wanted to see, and we did. Let the kid rest up, get it together, and come back with some (hopefully) good weapons, and we'll be fine.
 
Exactly my thought.

If we want to park him for the game this weekend, sure, but i'm not ready to say he shouldn't play another down this season. Reps are a part of the development, they're valuable regardless of record and season standings.... especially against NFC East opponents.

If there's a legit concern of additional damage long term, you save the player from themselves. He went down hard and was in pain, but Quinn already said he 'could' have returned... which leads me to believe there was no structural damage, it just hurt like hell. I want him to get as much playing time as possible while he grows. Experience is a learning tool that literally cannot be matched in any form. Every training tool attempts to get close to game reps, but they can never actually duplicate it.
Throwing to this group of receivers, backs and tight ends all Daniels is going to learn is how far Peters needs to go to give him someone to work with.

I remember Alex Ovechkin's first comments after the conclusion of his rookie year where he scored 50 plus goals and carried the team on his back to many of the wins they were able to get:

"I told the GM we need to get some more guys" :3some:
 
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Throwing to this group of receivers, backs and tight ends all Daniels is going to learn is how far Peters needs to go to give him someone to work with.

I remember Alex Ovechkin's first comments after the conclusion of his rookie year where he scored 50 plus goals and carried the team on his back to many of the wins they were able to get:

"I told the GM we need to get some more guys" :3some:



It’s way beyond that. It’s changing protections, audible from a pass to a run and vice versa. Beating a blitz, Diagnosing coverages, studying opposing defenses in the film room and seeing the nuances of the changes. Continuing to work with the Oline.
 
Looking back, I think we all showed a bit of arrogance (front office and fans alike), in regards to Jayden's ability to single-handedly be able to carry the team. He obviously did that in Year 1, but this year, it was clearly a different story as opposing teams got a better grasp of how to gameplan against Washington more effectively. Yes, there were a lot of different elements that factored into it all (primarily health of himself and teammates), but at the end of the day, 2025 Jayden was a far cry from 2024 Jayden. This season, if anything, has been a bit of a reality check and a reminder that our best chance to make Jayden approach the elite category moving forward is by surrounding him with other blue chip weapons on the offensive side of the ball. Hell, the last couple seasons, even a wizard like Mahomes has been looking human again without the production he was used to getting out of his TE and WRs for many years.

This all being said, in the absence of a real supporting cast and difference makers on offense to compliment #5, shut him down until 2026 when hopefully we have added additional chess pieces that pose a real threat to opposing defenses. Throwing Jayden to the wolves on an island in 2025 has proven fruitless and dangerous.
 
It’s way beyond that. It’s changing protections, audible from a pass to a run and vice versa. Beating a blitz, Diagnosing coverages, studying opposing defenses in the film room and seeing the nuances of the changes. Continuing to work with the Oline.
It's amazing how an upgrade in talent at a particular position makes coaching them a lot easier because they have the size, athleticism and feel for the game to execute what they are being told to do.

You have some players on this team, more than a few in fact, that just don't seem able to get on the field and exhibit the consistent production demanded of a regular NFL player.

Ben Sinnott has 3 catches for 33 yards in 13 games.

When he has appeared on the field he has been most noticeable for two early season miscues on special teams that cost the team a possession by running into the kicker and then taking a 15 yard penalty in another contest that prevented Washington from getting another possession in the fourth quarter.

As Parcells used to say - coaches can put players in position to make plays but if they aren't able to execute it becomes obvious and you have to get the guy off the field because he's costing you games.

As I have mentioned before it seems that Washington is like Club Med. Guys continue to sit on the bench and gab during a blowout seemingly waiting for the game to end so they can go out with friends for dinner. That's what the Minnesota game looked like.

And at the heart of that apathy is the knowledge the players are not really afraid of this coaching staff. They are comfortable for the most part.

And that is as deadly to a team as the documented injuries.
 
I'm just spitballin' here, but wouldn't it be great if Jayden could have played all or part of several games with no pressure to win or lose and with the ability to work on specific plays and packages? What if he could have played these games against weaker competition as well? Maybe these games could have also taken place before the real season, so that young players could get some reps and gain some confidence and familiarity? Imagine if such a thing existed.....
 
Re: Sinnott

Lots of talk about him and last week Kliff was asked about him directly. He said Sinnott was exactly where they wanted him to be but that he was basically stuck behind a likely HoF player at the position so wasn't getting the onfield reps.

Well, a lot has changed since that interview. I expect Sinnott will see a fair amount of game time starting this weekend and we will get a much better idea of whether the young man is our next starting TE or just a bit player.

I know he has made some mistakes and had his name called for more wrong reasons than right. At least so far.

However, he also caught every single ball he has been targeted with in his almost 2 years. Granted, small sample size, but he has caught them all.

Understand, I'm not calling him the next Travis Kelsey. I'm not even saying he will be the next Jason Reed or Chris Cooley.

I'm just cautioning against saying he is a bust quite yet.
 
I expect Yankoff will benefit more in Ertz’s absence.
 
Re: Sinnott

Lots of talk about him and last week Kliff was asked about him directly. He said Sinnott was exactly where they wanted him to be but that he was basically stuck behind a likely HoF player at the position so wasn't getting the onfield reps.

Well, a lot has changed since that interview. I expect Sinnott will see a fair amount of game time starting this weekend and we will get a much better idea of whether the young man is our next starting TE or just a bit player.

I know he has made some mistakes and had his name called for more wrong reasons than right. At least so far.

However, he also caught every single ball he has been targeted with in his almost 2 years. Granted, small sample size, but he has caught them all.

Understand, I'm not calling him the next Travis Kelsey. I'm not even saying he will be the next Jason Reed or Chris Cooley.

I'm just cautioning against saying he is a bust quite yet.
Kliff is full of BS.

If you have a starting caliber player you spent a #2 pick on, you find a way to get him on the field. Whether it is including some two tight end sets on offense on passing downs or giving split reps - we have seen this before in the NFL.

What we have seen here is COMPLETE ABSENCE of a player from the offense. How far are you going to go in getting Sinnott on the field to evaluate whether you want to extend his contract? We are half way through his rookie deal and he still doesn't have a body of work to even BEGIN to go by.

And as far as the Ertz comment goes - give me a break. Ertz is 35 years old and at this point of his career is no longer a down the field threat and is only average if that as a blocker.

A strong head coach like Andy Reid or Belichick would find a way to get a faster, younger player on the field in a platoon or share of some kind if that is necessary. I would say that based on some very solid but hardly pro bowl numbers, that a coach like Belichick may very well not have brought back a guy like Ertz in 2025.

What I think is Kliff Kingsbury likes Zack Ertz and has had Ertz playing with Daniels so exclusively since Day 1 that now Daniels depends upon that safety blanket. What the head coach and the staff SHOULD have been doing on a team coming off 3-14 was aggressively getting younger and faster players on the field as quickly as possible and help form a synergy so that Daniels grows up WITH Sinnott and other recent draft choices not on 35 year old players that are going to be in their rocking chairs next year.

So now the short-sighted Commanders OC and HC are left without Ertz most likely for good with the ACL.

The team is going to have see what Yankoff and Sinnott do coming down the stretch in 4 games where the offense is limping to the finish line, literally.

This is no way to develop the type of team the Chiefs built up or the Patriots before them.

This is the way you make decisions so EVERY season sees the team make 20-30% turnover and re-start over and over again.

As the Head Coach Quinn (like Joe Gibbs) has to be in charge of the TEAM. Yes, he's a defensive coach but he has to make decisions when the offense is not advancing in certain areas and players are not improving and getting on the field.

I mention Gibbs because he was a HOF coach known for offensive innovation.

At the same time he had to make decisions on personnel on the other side of the ball as well.

In a famous case, after the Redskins had signed Wilber Marshall and given up two #1 picks, defensive coordinator Richie Petitbon had Marshall on the strong side, rather than the weakside spot he played in Chicago.

He told Gibbs the freedom that Marshall enjoyed in Buddy Ryan's defense wasn't practical here with what we ran in Washington and this was the best place to put #58.

In the end Gibbs vetoed the move and Marshall ended up back on the weakside. A year later he was in the pro bowl for Washington.

Did Petitbon quit over it? No. Gibbs established his role as the final decision-maker and I am sure after some heated discussion that the DC accepted that.

Quinn, if Sinnott has truly come along as expected per Kliff's comments, should have told the OC to get the player on the field as we could surely use another younger threat in the passing game.
 
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I don't disagree with any of that Bulldog.

None of it runs against the point I made above though.
 
I don't disagree with any of that Bulldog.

None of it runs against the point I made above though.
Sorry, I was using the platform of the comment from Kliff about the development of the players, in this case Sinnott, to show how flawed the decision-making seemingly has been.

No issue with your later comments on the fact Sinnott may be much better than we thought if indeed Kliff has been playing favorites and holding others back.
 
This right here. He wants to get better. And works at it.
And this is what pisses me off when people compare him to RG-Me. Clearly their only similarity is physical stature. JD5 isn't telling the coaches what to do or being a petulant baby. He is working. Big difference between the two.
 
Not playing him is the easiest decision of the year. Of course you don't play him.

The really smart move would be to call Indy right now, and see if they want to come off of 3 first rounders for him. And nothing less.

This team needs a ton more than just a 2nd and 4th next year if we don't want to be a joke again.
 

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