Burner's Burning Questions: Offseason Edition, Free Agency 2014

Two wildcard teams interested in DeSean Jackson: #Redskins and #Bills. Can see both fits. Toss those in with #Chiefs, #Raiders and the rest.

--Ian Rapoport
 
DeSean Jackson on radar of Redskins, Bills, Raiders - NFL.com

Washington Redskins: Sources informed of Jackson's situation have told Rapoport that the Redskins are one of the "wildcard" teams interested in the playmaker. Washington has roughly $7 million in cap space and an owner with an affinity for splash moves.


Might be true.....might not be true.
 
Meh. That's just the Redskins' reputation still preceeding them. I'd like to hear from more than just 'sources' before I believe that.

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Meh. That's just the Redskins' reputation still preceeding them. I'd like to hear from more than just 'sources' before I believe that.

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I kind of thought that too, but John Keim is now reporting it to be true.
 
CBS now reporting that we are asking Desean to fly in.

While I think Oakland would offer more money, and San Fran might offer him an immediate SB contender, he may just end up in DC.
 
With the turmoil we had last season

All the ginned up media outrage over the name and new charity

Do we really need to throw more gas on the fire with Jackson?
 
With the turmoil we had last season

All the ginned up media outrage over the name and new charity

Do we really need to throw more gas on the fire with Jackson?

I can definitely see both sides of it.

We don't need problems. On the other hand, when a premium player is available at a discounted cost at a position of need....I think we need to at least consider it.

I'm sure that's what they are trying to weigh out right now.
 
There's a reason he's 'discounted' - Philly doesn't want him for God's sake!
 
There's a reason he's 'discounted' - Philly doesn't want him for God's sake!

This is true, but remember that they would have had to pay him over $10 million this year.

We wanted Orakpo, but some felt $10 million was too much.

Sources now saying that it's confirmed. He's reportedly flying to DC on Monday.
 
Well, you certainly could be correct that it's purely a financial decision. The NFL is essentially soulless - they only appear to care about right and wrong when it impacts their PR or $$$ so I guess fans had better accept that. I'll say one thing. If the Redskins sign this guy, Gruden better know what he's getting and Jackson better get his ****ing mind right. I'm not a Raider fan.
 
Well, you certainly could be correct that it's purely a financial decision. The NFL is essentially soulless - they only appear to care about right and wrong when it impacts their PR or $$$ so I guess fans had better accept that. I'll say one thing. If the Redskins sign this guy, Gruden better know what he's getting and Jackson better get his ****ing mind right. I'm not a Raider fan.

This could be a few different things. From the outside looking in, all of the following (even if painful) could be true:

1. He comes here, uses us as leverage, then flies to Oakland and signs.

2. The FO really does want him badly, and they make a serious offer. That offer could still be outbid by Oakland.

3. The worst case, but has to at least be considered--Dan is touching himself right now, and wants him brought in. I really, really hope this isn't the case, but I have to at least assign a 10% chance of this being reality.

I will say this. He's going to love Gruden. All players do. They love to play for our coach, much like basketball players love to play for Doc. He gets amazing effort out of people.

And....Brandon Marshall was awful in Miami. Chicago then took a chance at a discount, and he's a star again.

The ultimate goal of teams is really to get premium talent at discounted prices. There are only a few ways to do that. The draft being the best. The other common ways involve either taking a chance on an injured player, or signing an older player. Desean is neither.
 
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This guy is going to get paid, I saw somewhere Philly is still on the hook for 6 million so he doesn't have to break the bank this year. He could easily take the kind of contract that guarantees money down the road. I am not a fan of that idea. Oakland can have him.
 
Well, think about it this way for a second:

RG3 with Garcon, Jackson, Roberts and Reed. That could be awesome.

And our ST return issues would be gone immediately.
 
This could be a few different things. From the outside looking in, all of the following (even if painful) could be true:

1. He comes here, uses us as leverage, then flies to Oakland and signs.

2. The FO really does want him badly, and they make a serious offer. That offer could still be outbid by Oakland.

3. The worst case, but has to at least be considered--Dan is touching himself right now, and wants him brought in. I really, really hope this isn't the case, but I have to at least assign a 10% chance of this being reality.

I will say this. He's going to love Gruden. All players do. They love to play for our coach, much like basketball players love to play for Doc. He gets amazing effort out of people.

And....Brandon Marshall was awful in Miami. Chicago then took a chance at a discount, and he's a star again.

The ultimate goal of teams is really to get premium talent at discounted prices. There are only a few ways to do that. The draft being the best. The other common ways involve either taking a chance on an injured player, or signing an older player. Desean is neither.

I'm not JUST interested in winning. Taking a chance on an injured player and bringing in a morally bankrupt thug aren't synonymous.

I don't know if Snyder is pushing for this guy but you certainly seem to be. Pass.
 
No one is disputing the guys talent level Fear. You seriously want this asshat in Burgundy and Gold?
 
I am neither agressively supporting it, nor entirely opposed.
Somewhere in the middle.
As someone mentioned before, players have been known to "change colors" (not in a literal sense, or uniform sense), when placed under the right coaching staff.
If Gruden is everything he is hyped up to be, then I don't see why he couldn't harness this kid, the way other coaches have done to previous "players with issues"
And if Gruden is NOT everything he's hyped up to be - then we're going to have much bigger problems on our team, than a head-case WR
 
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Is Eagles' concern over DeSean Jackson gang-related or unfair? | FOX Sports on MSN

Jackson’s name came up during a 2010 murder investigation after 14-year-old Taburi Watson was gunned down by two men after flashing a rival gang sign while riding a bicycle through South Los Angeles. The charged shooters, reportedly members of the Crips, included Theron Shakir, a rapper known as “T-Ron” partnered up with Jaccpot Records, the DeSean Jackson-owned record label.

LAPD detective Eric Crosson told NJ.com that Jackson fully cooperated with police when interviewed in 2011 about the crime, but said Jackson was not a witness or a suspect. However, it’s clear Jackson has a relationship with Shakir, judging from Jackson’s own Instagam account — which includes several shots of the NFL star and Shakir together, pictures which now have been removed from Instagram.

Jackson’s name arose again after a 2012 game-related murder that occurred at a South LA building that was reportedly owned or leased by a member of Jackson’s family. Crosson said a police search of the crime scene turned up several items tied to Jackson, including a car title, gun permit and several credit-card receipts.

Although Crosson said he tried unsuccessfully several times to contact Jackson, the then-Eagles wide receiver was never a person of interest in the case.

Several recent reports out of Philadelphia cited the Eagles front office being troubled by Jackson’s lifestyle, especially on social media. Jackson is seen in several pictures he posted flashing the Crip sign. But Crosson also referenced Jackson using the gesture during the Eagles’ 2013 season opener vs. the Washington Redskins, direct toward cornerback DeAngelo Hall.

"You don't want to see anybody throwing up gang signs like he did in the Redskins game last year," Crosson said. "Those were neighborhood Crip gang signs and he flashed them during a game. He may not be affiliated with the gang, but they don't [ordinarily] take kindly to those not in the gang throwing up those gang signs."

Jackson was never publicly reprimanded by the Eagles or the NFL over the incident.

The name of Jackson’s record label also caught the attention of authorities.

Police brought it up to Jackson, Crosson said, when he was interviewed in the investigation of the Watson homicide.

The two C's in Jaccpot, cops believed, were symbolic. Crips avoid putting a "C" next to a "K" because in gangspeak, that stands for "Crip Killer." Crosson said Jackson explained the spelling by saying the Internet domain name for Jackpot "was taken."

"DeSean Jackson is not a gang member," said EAG Management CEO and founder Denise White, Jackson's agent. "He's far, far from it."

Is DeSean Jackson (left) being unfairly labelled?

NJ.com accessed court records which detailed a previously unreported Jackson arrest in Sept. 2009 as police said they found marijuana in Jackson’s car during a traffic stop for illegally tinted windows. According to court documents, Jackson was arrested on three charges, including possession of marijuana while driving. Two of the charges were dropped in a plea deal, including the marijuana account, with Jackson pleading guilty to disturbing the peace in April 2010.

NJ.com reports that neither the NFL or the Eagles commented when reached on Thursday.

The incident that may have pushed the Eagles to dabble Jackson in trade talks may have been a burglary of his South Philadelphia home in January. Initially, police told reporters that a safe was robbed containing $200,000, a Rolex watch worth $125,000 and a $700 Ruger revolver. On Friday, the day Jackson was released, Philadelphia police admitted a department error on the amount of cash stolen, which was actually just $20,000.

The discrepancy sparked rumors that Jackson may have given a false police report, which the authorities staunchly deny. But this incident was simply the latest distraction to Kelly and Eagles brass.

Separately, CSNPhilly.com also reported Friday that several Philadelphia nightclubs essentially banned the wide receiver and his entourage from their establishments.

“No. 1, since DeSean arrived in Philadelphia, he has been a problem off the field for the Eagles,” [CSN's Derrick] Gunn said. “There have been a number of nightclubs in the area that have basically told DeSean or told DeSean through second parties, 'We don’t want you back in our nightclubs because he is a disruptive factor.’ ”

All of the empirical evidence provides a strong “common sense” argument for why the Eagles were troubled by Jackson enough to get rid of him. One Eagles course told NJ.com that the team was "concerned about having him around the younger players.”

But to Jackson’s defense, can anyone realistically be shocked or blame him for knowing gang members having grown up in Long Beach, Calif., a notorious hotbed for gang-related activity? Former NFL running back Derrick Ward may have said it best during a Twitter tirade after Jackson’s release Friday . . .

Jackson denied in a statement Friday that he was a member of a gang. There is a difference.

The Eagles may be right. The Eagles may be wrong. But clearly the case of DeSean Jackson is not cut and dry.
 

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