What's the chance of this scenario happening after next year ?

[Fear The Spear]

Another one of those hypothetical "looking ahead threads" if you'll humor me for a moment.
I don't think this possibility has been discussed, probably because it's so unlikely. But it IS possible.
So here goes.

Let's say, Shanahan gets another year to prove himself. He gets an offseason without a cap penalty, and RG3 gets another offseason to fully heal. So neither of them have excuses next year. But we still end up sucking, with a losing record. Again, not saying it's gonna happen. Just imagining. So, after the 2014 season, Shanahan gets fired.

So we bring in a new coach. And he says, "You know what ? I think Cousins is more suited to be this teams' franchise QB....RG3 is not the pocket-passer we need, and/or has health issues, and/or is injury-prone, etc."

So the new coach pulls off a "Herschel Walker-type" trade, and ends up trading RG3, NOT Cousins, for a boatload of pics. And he uses those multiple picks to fill the numerous position needs we have, and to put his own stamp on the team. The new coach doesn't have to worry about the fan/city fallout of getting rid of RG3, since obviously he didn't draft him, so he doesn't take as much heat for the trade, as Shanahan would, if he had done it.

So then Cousins ends up the long-term starter of the Skins. And Cousins hoists 3 Lombardis in DC under the new coach.

Most of this might sound crazy.
But how possible ?

 

[Elephant]

About as possible of me getting on the field as our new starting FB...

 

[Fear The Spear]

About as possible of me getting on the field as our new starting FB...

Well, our CURRENT starting Fullback, was UNDRAFTED, AND never even played the FB position before he entered the pros.
Plus, you seem like a tough SOB....
So, I'd say that means both scenarios are somewhat likely.

 

[Goaldeje]

He's not. He's a pussy, really.

 

[McD5]

I think this is pretty close to what's about to happen. Shanahan will be gone, and the new coach will want his own guy, or injury will force a move.

I do think you're greatly overestimating RG3's trade value though. With 2 acl surgeries, I imagine many gms now consider him damaged goods, and wouldn't think of trading for him.

Vinny's no longer in the league. We might be able to get a mid to lower round first for him right now. Nothing more.

 

[Miles Monroe]

I think this is pretty close to what's about to happen. Shanahan will be gone, and the new coach will want his own guy, or injury will force a move.

I do think you're greatly overestimating RG3's trade value though. With 2 acl surgeries, I imagine many gms now consider him damaged goods, and wouldn't think of trading for him. Vinny's no longer in the league. We might be able to get a mid to lower round first for him right now. Nothing more.

I think any coach brought in would be picked to work with Roberts strengths. I like Cousins, think he could start in the league in time, but nobody in their right mind takes Cousins over Griffin. It's about as likely as Megan Fox showing up at my front door demanding animal sex with me....

 

[DieselPwr44]

It's about as likely as Megan Fox showing up at my front door demanding animal sex with me....

Had to Pete....lol

 

[Fear The Spear]

I like Cousins, think he could start in the league in time, but nobody in their right mind takes Cousins over Griffin. It's about as likely as Megan Fox showing up at my front door demanding animal sex with me....

Someone who, like McD5 said, believes RG3 is damaged goods

 

[Miles Monroe]

Someone who, like McD5 said, believes RG3 is damaged goods

I don't know how anybody can declare a QB damaged goods that's played behind our line. Manning or Brady would put up pedestrian numbers while running for their life, and throwing off their back foot behind our line.

 

[Burgundy Burner]

Yeah, the Oline is really nothing but a work of junk.

Finally going to say it. Time for this entire coaching staff to go after the season.

 

[McD5]

I don't know how anybody can declare a QB damaged goods that's played behind our line. Manning or Brady would put up pedestrian numbers while running for their life, and throwing off their back foot behind our line.

Not damaged goods in terms of talent, although only time will tell if he ever gets back to where he was last year.

Damaged goods meaning that he's already had two major knee surgeries. That injury history poses a greater risk to any GM hoping to build a team for the next five years, and it reduces his trade value.

And Fear, nice thread. Did you hear Gruden talk about exactly this tonight?

 

[Fear The Spear]

And Fear, nice thread. Did you hear Gruden talk about exactly this tonight?

Yea, interesting. Literally a few hours after I posted this

 

[Lanky Livingston]

I think any coach brought in would be picked to work with Roberts strengths. I like Cousins, think he could start in the league in time, but nobody in their right mind takes Cousins over Griffin. It's about as likely as Megan Fox showing up at my front door demanding animal sex with me....

Wait, that doesn't happen to everyone else?

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[Rymanofthenorth]

unles we got 3 number 1s id lose it

 

[Lanky Livingston]

unles we got 3 number 1s id lose it

Yeah...I think for better or worse, Griffin is or QB. Too much invested in him.

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[Fear The Spear]

unles we got 3 number 1s id lose it

Yeah...I think for better or worse, Griffin is or QB. Too much invested in him.

Which is why I used the example of a new coach coming in, and therefore not being obsessed with recouping the same value that the previous coach paid.
New coach, means everything on the team comes under a new perception

 

[RedskinfaninOC]

If Dan fires the coach, does that mean that the new coach will have a 5 year plan to rebuild the team? If so, how many 5 year plans do we have to go through again? How many 5 year plans has it been already?

 

[Fear The Spear]

Ironically, of all the coaches Snyder has had under him, the one he gave the shortest leash, was the one most likely to keep us a playoff team - Schottenheimer.

 

[Fear The Spear]

Schotty was an illusion. He had one playoff win in SD. Hes like Barry bonds in pitt...amazing regular season numbers but falls apart in the clutch

Well, I didn't say he'd make us a dynasty. I said, at least "keep us a playoff team". I would take that, and his "amazing regular season numbers but falls apart in the clutch", over what we've had in the likes of Turner, Spurrier, Zorn, Shanahan, any day, any year. Wouldn't you ?

 

[Fear The Spear]

The little he did with the talent he had in SD?

Wait, are you talking about Norv, or Marty ?