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It can be very confusing. It's easy to remember that the back ribs are the same rib that's on a bone-in ribeye steak. So when you see a boneless ribeye, somebody cut off that length of ribs and is selling them as back ribs.

The short ribs consist of seven ribs which are usually cut as three and four. The "three" are the bigger thick ones sometimes referred to as bronto ribs. And the "four" are a little less meat, but still great, and are sometimes referred to as "dino" ribs. I'll take either set. They're both excellent.

What makes things confusing is people will just throw these words around loosely and incorrectly, which just confuses more people. Dino & Bronto. These are sort of slang words but they refer to specific ribs.

Once I saw a thread in a well known smoker forum, and the thing went on for two pages, and the OP never told anybody he was talking about back ribs! And it seemed everybody in the thread assumed he was talking about short ribs. And nobody thought to ask "what ribs are you referring to?" Pretty hilarious. So it's a good idea to say "short ribs" or "back ribs."

So yeah - short rib plate. That's what you want. Ribs 2-5 or ribs 6-8. Both are excellent and loads of fun to cook. And impressive. Hard to find them like that though.

Technically the butcher can cut them any way he wants. So it would be possible to get two ribs, but that would be unconventional. Normally, it would be 3 and 4 ribs.

Here are some "bronto ribs" I did last summer on the offset. Some people call them "brisket on a stick" which is pretty good description. There is no lean flat though. They're all just like fatty point brisket. but on a stick. Extremely rich, extremely tender, extremely delicious. They're to die for.

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Check this vid out. These guys do an excellent job of explaining

 
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I splurged and ordered a couple of plates of Dino ribs from Snake River Farms Mark. Gonna do some homework on how to smoke. I’m leaning towards just doing SPG (maybe a little Dijon as a binder) and wrapping early like you suggested. May do one on the BGE and one on my pellet grill just to compare
 
Congratulations! I need to order some too - I'm out and warm weather is coming!

I would not wrap a plate. The short rib plates are typically not wrapped. It's the cut up short ribs that they sell at the grocery which benefit from the early wrap because they dry out so fast. But the big plate will stay moist unwrapped. And I would not trim the top fat off that plate. Leave it all on there just like Jirby does. It will render and if you're lucky, you'll get that "sugar cookie bark" which is amazing.

I often use the same rub on beef ribs as I use on a brisket - but salt & pepper only is classic and it's the Texas way. Can't go wrong either way.

Check out these vids by Jirby - he's a young guy but he knows way more about bbq than you and I will ever know:






Edit: Oh yeah - one other thing which nobody ever seems to mention but I think is important is the draft. All these well known pitmasters are cooking on high end expensive offset smokers and I think they take the draft for granted. Almost all these offsets we see on youtube are top-down smokers. So the draft is coming down to the meat from above and hitting the ribs just right, rendering the fat on the top. You probably don't have a top down smoker, but the draft is something to think about regarding the positioning of that plate - and a brisket too. Maybe you can manipulate the draft - or maybe you can tilt the meat in a way to maximize exposure to the draft so that it hits the top just right.

For example, if I was going to smoke a brisket on my (bottom up) drum, I would cook it upside down so the fat is facing the fire and the draft. Or I would manipulate the draft to come up and across - and tilt the brisket towards the cross-draft. Because you don't want the harsh radiant heat to hit the flat first - you want it to hit the fatty point first.

Just something to think about. :D
 
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Love that Jirby video but I don’t have an offset so a lot of that’s not going to work (if I mopped with tallow I’d just have a massive grease fire I think)

I am gonna try hitting them with tallow during the rest
 
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Congratulations! I need to order some too - I'm out and warm weather is coming!

I would not wrap a plate. The short rib plates are typically not wrapped. It's the cut up short ribs that they sell at the grocery which benefit from the early wrap because they dry out so fast. But the big plate will stay moist unwrapped. And I would not trim the top fat off that plate. Leave it all on there just like Jirby does. It will render and if you're lucky, you'll get that "sugar cookie bark" which is amazing.

I often use the same rub on beef ribs as I use on a brisket - but salt & pepper only is classic and it's the Texas way. Can't go wrong either way.

Check out these vids by Jirby - he's a young guy but he knows way more about bbq than you and I will ever know:






Edit: Oh yeah - one other thing which nobody ever seems to mention but I think is important is the draft. All these well known pitmasters are cooking on high end expensive offset smokers and I think they take the draft for granted. Almost all these offsets we see on youtube are top-down smokers. So the draft is coming down to the meat from above and hitting the ribs just right, rendering the fat on the top. You probably don't have a top down smoker, but the draft is something to think about regarding the positioning of that plate - and a brisket too. Maybe you can manipulate the draft - or maybe you can tilt the meat in a way to maximize exposure to the draft so that it hits the top just right.

For example, if I was going to smoke a brisket on my (bottom up) drum, I would cook it upside down so the fat is facing the fire and the draft. Or I would manipulate the draft to come up and across - and tilt the brisket towards the cross-draft. Because you don't want the harsh radiant heat to hit the flat first - you want it to hit the fatty point first.

Just something to think about. :D

I agree with all of that. I don't bother with grocery store beef ribs. Since they're a special treat, I only get them from the butcher and will hand pick the biggest dino ribs that they have, and don't care what they cost. I've never wrapped them. I've always do my brisket fat towards the fire too with the idea being that it helps protect the flat from drying out. I'm a hot and fast brisket convert, which does involve wrapping after a nice bark has set...
 
I splurged and ordered a couple of plates of Dino ribs from Snake River Farms Mark. Gonna do some homework on how to smoke. I’m leaning towards just doing SPG (maybe a little Dijon as a binder) and wrapping early like you suggested. May do one on the BGE and one on my pellet grill just to compare

You've motivated me to stop fooling around and get me a couple plates too! :D So I did! I'll pick them up tomorrow at noon. :cool:

Maybe cook them Saturday if the weather is decent.

 
I will document mine in the BBQ thread. I have a plan... I will probably go BGE indirect at 250 for 6-7 hours... no wrap... binder, simple rub (thinking Lawry's seasoned salt/pepper/garlic powder/beef bouillon powder), will come up with some kind of spritz liquid to hit it with over the last few hours... Post-oak wood for smoke...
 
I will document mine in the BBQ thread. I have a plan... I will probably go BGE indirect at 250 for 6-7 hours... no wrap... binder, simple rub (thinking Lawry's seasoned salt/pepper/garlic powder/beef bouillon powder), will come up with some kind of spritz liquid to hit it with over the last few hours... Post-oak wood for smoke...

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I will document mine in the BBQ thread. I have a plan... I will probably go BGE indirect at 250 for 6-7 hours... no wrap... binder, simple rub (thinking Lawry's seasoned salt/pepper/garlic powder/beef bouillon powder), will come up with some kind of spritz liquid to hit it with over the last few hours... Post-oak wood for smoke...

Sounds a lot like a Jirby cook! He's funny. He says the old pitmasters all follow everybody else's advice, and so everybody just repeats what everybody else is saying and everybody cooks exactly the same which is why almost nobody's bbq in Texas stands out, and all these old guys in Texas who own bbq joints are frustrated because they can't get on the top 50 listing of best bbq places in Texas Monthly. And then, sure enough, as some young guy - just some young kid really - but he (and his young partners) makes top #1 spot in Texas Monthly. Best BBQ in Texas! Which is to say best BBQ in the world. He says the secret is, there is no secret. He's just a really good cook. He also says, don't be afraid, don't be intimidated, do whatever you want! There are no rules in BBQ! He's pretty interesting, in a goofy way. Watch the first 90 secs of this podcast. It's pretty hilarious.



I didn't even realize we had a BBQ thread until like a week ago. We should be posting there more ... right?
 
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Sounds a lot like a Jirby cook! He's funny. He says the old pitmasters all follow everybody else's advice, and so everybody just repeats what everybody else is saying and everybody cooks exactly the same which is why almost nobody's bbq in Texas stands out, and all these old guys in Texas who own bbq joints are frustrated because they can't get on the top 50 listing of best bbq places in Texas Monthly. And then, sure enough, as some young guy - just some young kid really - but he (and his young partners) makes top #1 spot in Texas Monthly. Best BBQ in Texas! Which is to say best BBQ in the world. He says the secret is, there is no secret. He's just a really good cook. He also says, don't be afraid, don't be intimidated, do whatever you want! There are no rules in BBQ! He's pretty interesting, in a goofy way. Watch the first 90 secs of this podcast. It's pretty hilarious.



I didn't even realize we had a BBQ thread until like a week ago. We should be posting there more ... right?

Yes...we should be posting BBQ stuff in the the BBQ thread...and I agree.....everything is pretty much the same...I used to watch the BBQ Pitmasters...but it's so redundant....there's only so many ways to cook brisket, chicken thighs & pork shoulder. He's spot-on with that "clean smoke" remark. As soon as my smoker is up to temp, the food goes on...
 
Love this serious eats recipe … super easy and very good

 
Damn boys, those look amazing!
 

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