The WFT remains lowest in Covid Vaccinations rates for its players



This is why I prefer this community over some others I've been a part of. We can converse, argue, have different points of view, but in the end we all come back together. We aren't perfect and some have had to leave. But I know I've been on boards that it would just become which group could get the most people and yell the loudest. Then they'd try to drive out the others they didn't want. Logical discussions could not really happen. I appreciate everyone here who can discuss with facts, opinions, and even emotion, yet realize there may be more to the discussion than their own point of view.
 
They're sensationalizing this like we have all these dangerous kids who may have covid being quarantined...and, so far none of them do.

I really don't want to be th conspiracy theorist, but it isn't hard to see how one could be.
 

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FFS the player union has to be vocal about this at some point.
 

Washington Football Team, Besieged by COVID, Makes O-Line Roster Move
Originally posted on FanNation Washington Football
By Jeremy Brener | Last updated 8/2/21
Once a strength, Washington Football Team's offensive line is suddenly in shambles thanks to COVID.
Head coach Ron Rivera has bemoaned his team's low vaccination rate, and now those fears are coming to fruition as three pillars of the offensive front are missing training camp practices.
Potential starting right tackle Cornelius Lucas, veteran right guard Brandon Scherff and swing tackle David Sharpe have all been placed on the COVID list. The moves forced WFT to sign guard guard Ross Reynolds off waivers from the Miami Dolphins.


Rivera said over the weekend that he has grown "beyond frustrated" with his some of his team's more stubborn players. WFT's vaccination rate is around 70 percent, second-lowest in the league. The NFL's new COVID policy could force teams to forfeit games in the event of a COVID outbreak among unvaccinated players.

With camp less than a week old, newly signed receiver Curtis Samuel and veteran defensive end Matt Ioannidis also landed on the COVID list.

The list is specifically designed for a player who either tests positive or has been in "close contact" with an infected person. With no set-in-stone timeline, players are subjected to a list of protocols that guide their return to the playing field, It could be 10 days since symptoms appeared, at least 72 hours since symptoms occurred or merely the subjective approval of a return via team physician after consultation with the NFL's chief medical officer.


Reynolds is a 6-4, 300-pounder recently released by Miami after signing as an undrafted free agent with the San Francisco 49ers in 2019.

On this episode of "Locked On Washington Football Team," hosts Chris Russell and David Harrison discuss the impact of the COVID list and how it will affect the WFT moving forward.
 
The vaccine mitigates symptoms because the body already conducted a battle with the spike protein and generated antibodies.

Preventing spread, on the other hand, is not so simple because generating replicates for spread is far easier for the virus to do and in fact, is in its "nature" to do so before the symptoms manifest. I know that when I tested positive, my only symptom at that time was an extreme fatigue but nothing was felt in the tracts, meaning I would no disincentive to fight through that fatigue and that is when I was capable of spreading it. The coughs and stuff came after infection left and the virus "painkiller symptom" no longer suppressed the symptoms of lung damage.

That the CDC walked back its recommendation is clear that the Delta will spread even amongst the vaccinated. So, if it is about Rivera's personal safety since he is immunodeficient, he is SOL.
 

Ron Rivera on newly vaccinated players: Kudos to them for getting informed and educated

For much of the offseason, Washington was dead last in the NFL in its vaccination rate. But just in the last week, several Washington players have had the vaccine, and the Football Team is now over 85 percent vaccinated. Washington head coach Ron Rivera is pleased with that.

Rivera, who vented his frustrations as an immunocompromised recent cancer patient when many of his players were still unvaccinated, said he’s now happy with the progress his team has made.


“Kudos to the players for trying to get as informed and educated on it as much as possible,” Rivera said. “That’s a good thing. That’s a plus. We’re heading in the right direction. We still have several guys that aren’t and we’ll see, we’ll see what happens, but hopefully we can continue as these guys get more and more comfortable with it, we can get it done.”

Rivera said it will be helpful within the team facility to have more vaccinated players, as it makes organization easier with fewer restrictions on players having close contact with each other.

“It means we can do a lot more things in-person and as groups, as long as the unvaccinated dudes do pay attention and stay separated,” Rivera said. “But for the core guys that are vaccinated, they can get a little bit tighter and be around each other a little bit more, so that’s a huge plus.”
 
Do what they want...you're educated

Go against them...
 

Washington Football: Latest vaccine update comes with huge sigh of relief

The Washington Football Team entered their training camp as one of the teams with the least number of their players vaccinated. This caused concern not only throughout the fanbase, but on the coaching staff as well.

In his first press conference as the team opened camp in Richmond, head coach Ron Rivera voiced his frustration with the teams’ low vaccination rate. It frustrated Rivera both at a personal level, as he is immune-compromised, and at a competitive level.

Being an unvaccinated player vs being vaccinated presents a severe disadvantage. An unvaccinated player is subject to contact tracing, an automatic five days missed, and they get an automatic 10-day “suspension” with a positive.

A vaccinated player does not get contact traced and must produce two negative tests within a 24-hour time frame. While getting the vaccine won’t one-hundred percent guarantee a player does not test positive for the virus, it takes their chances of missing time drastically down.


Furthermore, a team below the 85% threshold has to follow different protocols than the other teams. Again, another example of a competitive disadvantage. And Washington felt the brunt of that disadvantage in their first week of camp. Seven players, including four starters, went to the COVID-19 list.

And not all were for positive tests.

However, on their first off day, they were able to get a number of players to take their first dose of the vaccine. And just after that, Washington passed the all-important 85% threshold.

Washington still has some work to do, but this was a huge step.


The importance of passing the 85% threshold
This may seem unimportant to some. Others may be annoyed that this is still a talking point. But, like it is for every team in the NFL, this is a huge deal.


Washington passing the 85% threshold allows them to convene all in one locker room, Rivera hopes. They were previously operating on a two locker room basis as they were in 2020. This should help produce a higher level of synergy on the team.

Furthermore, this presents that a large number of the team cannot be put onto the COVID-19 list unless they test positive for the virus. For example, if a player tests positive and the rest of his position group is vaccinated, that position group will most likely not miss time.

This takes the chances of an outbreak occurring significantly down.

The 85% vaccination rate for the Washington Football Team is still towards the bottom of the league. And it can be expected to decrease once they cut down to the final fifty-three, as it is safe to bet most of the unvaccinated players are players that have secure roster spots.

Having said that, this is still a very encouraging development. Now, the storylines will not be as much about and they can shift to the play on the field.

As the old saying goes, “it is better late than never.” Now Washington is quickly getting their players vaccinated. Hopefully, this points toward minimal problems with the virus for the Washington Football Team in 2021.
 
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COVID numbers across all hospitals dropped from late spring to mid-summer - because huge numbers of folks were getting vaccinated and because masking and social distancing were very effective! Good lord - isn’t that obvious?

Im trying to be respectful, but I guarantee you whatever your hospital employer was, I’m guessing they would differ sharply from your assessment. I cannot believe the minimization of the worst health crisis the US has seen since the HIV breakout (and prior to that polio).

It really makes me angry guys, having seen the mortality associated with COVID where I work alone.

I do respect you guys and understand folks have strong feelings on this topic and that it bleeds into a lot of other areas of personal belief. I really do.
I with all do respect have to hit back on this a little .. Can someone please show me the scientific data that suggest anything other then a n95 mask works. Don't give me the CDC run around either produce for me the PEER REVIEWED and DUPLICATED studies that masks work. Show me the science on surgical masks, hankerchiefs or any other face covering that isn't n95. just because a scientist or Fauci suggests we wear a mask doesn't make it scientific proof its an opionion and that's it . I will refer everyone reading this to look up the article in American thinker dated july 27 the title being When it comes to masks,Physics always trumps politics and read the actual science behind the mask craze. I'm feel sad for anyone that has lost a fiend or family member to this horrible disease as did my family . About a week ago it was brought up on this sight that covid wasn't political but from my perspective it became political when Trump sent the comfort shio to New York , set the Javits center up as a make shift hospital and dickhed Cuomo didn't use one bed to score political points . Remember he was the golden child at that moment in time . Well he shoved my Aunt back into the nursing home and killed her , so yea for me its political. As we speak their are over 500 families and a group of frontline doctors suing the CDC and The Who because we believe they intentionally held back HCQ and ivervectim known therapeutics to help cure this disease . so having been through this living hell as everyone else we should be a little more sensitive to people experiences and not label anyone as a conspiracy theorist
 
Surgical masks have been around a long time brother. PPE is prescribed differently for different situations. N95 masks can filter out incredibly small organisms (even viral) but are generally only prescribed for situations where the disease is capable of being airborne (such as with TB bacterium). Most diseases can be transmitted via 'Droplet' transmission (meaning you cough or transmit the disease via fluid droplets, not due to the actual organism floating through the air).

Masks absolutely are effective for droplet precautions. That's why every surgeon in the world wears them. I don't need to show data, it's just a fact. Surgical or cloth masks will not stop viruses or other organisms that are truly airborne. I believe up till recently, COVID was considered to be passed on to others primarily through droplet transmission vs. truly being 'airborne' (that's why they've focused so much on standard masking and social distancing, because droplets typically don't travel more than 6 feet or so when someone is talking or coughing).

There has been a change recently to recommend N95 masks when taking care of active COVID patients. You are missing a major point though. It's not that the CDC was 'misleading' or 'lying' to people about N95 masks. N95 masks would always be better if you aren't sure whether an organism is truly an 'airborne' vs. 'droplet' risk. But the US and rest of the world could not have provided every worker caring for active COVID patients an N95 mask even if they wanted to, much less the general public. There weren't enough N95 masks available to supply people for a day, much less indefinitely. They have ramped up N95 production since and that's why you may see more recommendations for them (although I don't think COVID is absolutely defined as an 'airborne' illness yet - if it was we'd all have gotten it).

As for the politics - we don't allow it here. Sorry. We've tried. And folks just can't treat each other respectfully and as adults. So we don't allow it. I'm sorry about your loved one. The post you quoted is in support of preventing that kind of thing.
 
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ST coach tested positive after being “vaccinated”.

 
My hospital is having a record surge in COVID patients. We have run out of vents and had to transfer more from other hospitals. Many of our patients are in their 40’s and 50’s. They are nearly all unvaccinated. 3 of our unit nurses are out indefinitely. Guess what their vaccine status was? We’ve had to limit our available beds because we don’t have enough staff to run our unit.

Yeah - you can still get the Delta strain if you are vaccinated. But you probably won’t die or in most cases even need to be hospitalized. The same is not true for the unvaccinated.

This shit is real and folks refusing the vaccine - you’re taking a big chance I hope no one I know comes to regret.
 
It must be a regional thing because the hospital I worked at has not, at least not a substantial one. Granted my area’s a little more rural but the spike your place is experiencing is not mirroring here, and its not even kinda close. Our hospital also has a 10 days mandatory quarantine if found positive.

It seems the vaccinated aren’t protected from a thing, and may actually be more contagious in the scheme of things. Not a matter of maybe catching it again if vaccinated, it’s proven every day that the shot doesn’t vaccinate ANYTHING.

I personally know 2 people that covid was listed as their cause of death. Granted the couple were in their 90’s, smoked like freight trains for over 60 years each and were on O2 for COPD. If I were to get it again and it puts me down I’m okay with that and won’t 2nd guess the shot for a second. So if I’m in the .3% that gets RONA’d to death it’s all good.

I get your position on this brother and 100% do respect it. I just don’t share the same fear over it. The shot isn’t vaccinating is all I’m saying.
 
The CDC data shows you are 29 times more likely to be hospitalized if you are unvaccinated than if you are not. The delta variant is more contagious and even the vaccinated can get it. We know that. But suggesting the vaccine doesn’t offer protection is wrong and it shouldn’t be stated as if it’s a fact.

If more people had gotten vaccinated and acted responsibly over this summer, instead of pretending COVID didn’t exist for 3 months, we would not be where we are right now. Like my stupid nurse friends who minimized it and didn’t get vaccinated who are now sick as hell and can’t work.

It has nothing to do with fear, but let me tell you that when people are put on a ventilator, they are pretty ****ing scared.

I look at local, regional, and national data every GD day. I wish I could post it here. And I’m honestly tired of hearing anecdotal stories as if that compares to actual healthcare generated data that every hospital and infectious disease expert in America is using to make decisions.

I think I’m done with this thread.
 
I don't trust the CDC...at all.

People don't get the flu shot every year and are ok.
 
I got the shots last month. If I didn't, then my daughter and family couldn't visit. I made the choice and was happy to see my family.

Here is one man's opinion...

The government should do another stimulus. $300 to everyone who gets the shots. People can still refuse, but no stimulus money for them. For those who have the shots already, they get the check. Pretty sure the rates for those who get the shots will skyrocket with a stimulus incentive.

For football players and other athletes, a financial incentive could work as well. Each of the major sports has plenty of cash to make it work.

Again, one (old) man's opinion.
 

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