The WFT remains lowest in Covid Vaccinations rates for its players

[Solitary Man]

We just broke 50 percent vaccinated. We don't know if that is fully vaccinated or partially vaccinated.
Colts are 31st and just broke 61 percent.
We brought in a vaccination expert recently. Did this have a negative effect??
Or do we have team leaders that are influencing players do not get the shots?
The coaches are vaccinated.

This is not a problem yet, but very soon it become a major problem.

The only positive I can see from this, is potentially deciding highly contested roster battles, among vaccinated players vs unvaccinated ones.

 

[SkinsOrlando]

If we're basing roster battles on whose vaccinated vs not instead of just talent then Rivera needs to go, that's just straight horse manure (not stating this is the case but if it were to happen). Yes the NFL has some rule about games could be forfeited yada yada yada but I see that as nothing but a boogeyman scare tactic by Sith Lord Pussface aka Emperor Goodell

 

[Solitary Man]

If we're basing roster battles on whose vaccinated vs not instead of just talent then Rivera needs to go, that's just straight horse manure (not stating this is the case but if it were to happen). Yes the NFL has some rule about games could be forfeited yada yada yada but I see that as nothing but a boogeyman scare tactic by Sith Lord Pussface aka Emperor Goodell

Ok so you think Goodell is bluffing and that this is a nothing burger. Got it. Also you did make a little leap on the contested battles comment that I made. You don’t think the coaches will consider vaccination efforts in their player evaluation?

 

[Solitary Man]

Washington's low COVID-19 vaccination rate has Ron Rivera 'beyond frustrated'

According to Rivera, the entire Washington coaching staff is fully vaccinated.

www.yardbarker.com

Washington's low COVID-19 vaccination rate has Ron Rivera 'beyond frustrated'


By Zac Wassink | Last updated 7/27/21











Per John Keim of ESPN, Washington Football Team coach Ron Rivera told reporters Tuesday that more than 50% of Washington's players have been vaccinated against COVID-19. To compare, NFL Network's Tom Pelissero (h/t Nick Shook) reported earlier in the day that 85% of players league-wide have received at least one vaccine shot.

Rivera battled squamous cell carcinoma, a form of skin cancer, last year and is considered immunodeficient and at high risk for COVID-19. He admitted his club's low vaccination rate has him "beyond frustrated" this summer.

"When I'm in a group and the group's not vaccinated or there's a mixture, I put the mask on, and I do that for health reasons because nobody really knows," Rivera explained when speaking about the more-contagious Delta variant. "I have to do that. And I just wish and I hope that our guys can understand that."

Even before the NFL threatened it could force a team to forfeit if it cannot play a scheduled game this season because of a COVID-19 outbreak among unvaccinated players, Washington had a Harvard immunologist and virus expert speak with its players about the available and safe vaccines. Rivera noted Tuesday there's still "reluctance" among multiple players to get the shots and revealed he realizes coronavirus-related absences could sink his team's chances of repeating as NFC East champions.

"But the thing that still looms over our head, unfortunately, is the whole COVID situation," he said. "We have to figure that out and we have to understand that. We do -- as a football team, as individuals, we have to understand what's truly at stake in terms of opportunities going forward and we'll see. We'll see how it all unfolds, and to some degree this tells us a little about us."



NFL teams that reach an 85% vaccination threshold among players can have some health and safety protocols loosened, and Pelissero reports that 14 teams have crossed a 90% vaccination mark.

According to Chase Goodbread of the NFL's website, Rivera added the entire Washington coaching staff is fully vaccinated.

 

[MikefromOH]

if he won't play an obviously more talented guy because of his personal choice he needs to be fired.

 

[Om]

So if an unvaccinated player gets COVID and exposes and/or infects coaches and other players, and that ends up causing the team forfeit losses (not to mention endangers their health), does he need to be fired?

 

[Solitary Man]

This is gonna get real. Real soon.

 

[SkinsOrlando]

Ok so you think Goodell is bluffing and that this is a nothing burger. Got it. Also you did make a little leap on the contested battles comment that I made. You don’t think the coaches will consider vaccination efforts in their player evaluation?

The NFL is a business, you think they want lost TV revenue, pissing off the fan base, losing more viewership than already? How many fans are 100% vaccine? Yes I think it's a boogeyman statement by Goodell. They've already lost enough of the fan base by bringing politics into the sport, they can't afford to lose viewership while they're in the midst of negotiating tv contracts when sunday ticket is up for grabs finally. That's stupid business, the NFL isn't stupid when it comes to money.

 

[Solitary Man]

The NFL is a business, you think they want lost TV revenue, pissing off the fan base, losing more viewership than already? How many fans are 100% vaccine? Yes I think it's a boogeyman statement by Goodell. They've already lost enough of the fan base by bringing politics into the sport, they can't afford to lose viewership while they're in the midst of negotiating tv contracts when sunday ticket is up for grabs finally. That's stupid business, the NFL isn't stupid when it comes to money.

So do you think they are bluffing about not rescheduling games too? Ot are they serious about that? Being that it is just a business

 

[SkinsOrlando]

So if an unvaccinated player gets COVID and exposes and/or infects coaches and other players, and that ends up causing the team forfeit losses (not to mention endangers their health), does he need to be fired?

You're assuming that they can contact trace everything back to that one player, what if a player who is vaccinated is carrying asymptomatically but gets people sick? I know the argument, "those players should've gotten vaccinated." That's the same type of talk that well people who didn't save up on water deserve to die in a heat wave.

 

[SkinsOrlando]

So do you think they are bluffing about not rescheduling games too? Ot are they serious about that? Being that it is just a business

Re-scheduling, sure, the money is still there, baseball has done it for years.

 

[Solitary Man]

Re-scheduling, sure, the money is still there, baseball has done it for years.

so you think this is a lie too

NFL: Games will be forfeited, not rescheduled, if COVID hits a team

The NFL will not postpone or reschedule games in the 2021 season should a team have too many unvaccinated players unavailable due to COVID-19, according to a memo the league issued to its 32 teams on Thursday.

www.reuters.com

 

[SkinsOrlando]

so you think this is a lie too

NFL: Games will be forfeited, not rescheduled, if COVID hits a team

The NFL will not postpone or reschedule games in the 2021 season should a team have too many unvaccinated players unavailable due to COVID-19, according to a memo the league issued to its 32 teams on Thursday.

www.reuters.com

I think the probability is low, let's say 8 teams have this happen, the repercussions will far succeed the heavy hand they're trying to deal. If it's one team like Denver last year you slap around because of QB's, you'll get minor push back, but if it scales that many teams might not meet the "requirement" and dominos fall and they do this especially in a larger market. No way, who cared about Denver last year? Now you pull that bs with multiple teams in contention who carry a national audience, yeah can't see them taking that risk. You think teams with rabid I mean rabid fan bases in major markets wouldn't throw an absolute shit? That's the PR nightmare = lost revenue = losing fans maybe for a long time, maybe forever.

 

[Om]

You're assuming that they can contact trace everything back to that one player, what if a player who is vaccinated is carrying asymptomatically but gets people sick? I know the argument, "those players should've gotten vaccinated." That's the same type of talk that well people who didn't save up on water deserve to die in a heat wave.

Not sure you answered my actual question?

 

[SkinsOrlando]

Not sure you answered my actual question?

No it's not in their contract, that's simple enough. I'd wager Rivera's expectation is to field a team that wins not play to Goodells PR game.

 

[Win4us]

So if an unvaccinated player gets COVID and exposes and/or infects coaches and other players, and that ends up causing the team forfeit losses (not to mention endangers their health), does he need to be fired?

I would say no, he does not need to be fined or fired. It’s the same answer I’d give to a vaccinated player who may be asymptomatic but passes it to a coach or player. At some point the shaming into the vaccine needs to stop, it’s not a good look for the league/Ron imho.

 

[Solitary Man]

SkinsOrlando
So you don’t believe this message from the NFL and believe they will choose which games will be rescheduled by some sort of ratings hierarchy. Got it.

 

[Boone]

I would say no, he does not need to be fined or fired. It’s the same answer I’d give to a vaccinated player who may be asymptomatic but passes it to a coach or player. At some point the shaming into the vaccine needs to stop, it’s not a good look for the league/Ron imho.

Shaming has nothing to do with it. From a medical point of view, not getting vaccinated puts not just yourself but others at risk. It just does … and we know now it can put guys who DID get vaccinated at risk. So it’s no longer just about ‘personal choice’. Our choices impact others.

One man’s shaming is another’s expectation that we be responsible and follow established medical science on the best way to keep ourselves and others safe.

 

[SkinsOrlando]

SkinsOrlando
So you don’t believe this message from the NFL and believe they will choose which games will be rescheduled by some sort of ratings hierarchy. Got it.

Yes, you think with all this drama they'd drop a national GB game with all that up there, no one is asking Rodgers if he got the vaccine. No mask walking into the building, nothing stated by the media.

 

[Solitary Man]

Yes, you think with all this drama they'd drop a national GB game with all that up there, no one is asking Rodgers if he got the vaccine. No mask walking into the building, nothing stated by the media.

i can guarantee you that Aaron Rodgers has been vaccinated