You did say that but I am not buying it. You came at my claim that Cutler is a winner and showed stats that show he does not have a much better record than Campbell. But what you failed to introduce by merely stating NFC East > AFC West is the terrible defense the Broncos have and the top rated D Campbell has had.
You are right, I did not talk about it. To me, that also rather supports Campbell's stats being more solid than they appear. He had a defense the coaches trusted. How many times did we hear Gibbs say he played something safe because he figured the defense could hold the other team? I think Shannahan turned Cutler loose because he knew his only chance of winning was a 38-35 shootout with that speed bump he had for a defense. That will lead to some big numbers for the QB in all columns, the good and the bad.
And it appears you neglected the stats I posted that I believe help support my theory that Cutler is a winner compared to Jason. Did you see the stats I introduced that showed Cutler with 5 out of 8 wins last year coming by 4th quarter comebacks? That is the one variable that I only saw Campbell do once in 8 games against NO last year.
Yeah, admittedly I didn't go that deep and admittedly Jason has not been great at that although I don't lay
all that at Jason's feet. Some certainly but not all. It often feels like the play calling has no urgency to me until we are behind by more than one score at which point you are looking at needing some sort of miracle like a recovered on side kick to even have a shot. Sunday's game with NY was a good example to me. Where was the play calling that we saw on the last TD drive prior to that drive? The Giants defense didn't really go prevent on that last drive nor did they really change what they had been doing all game. Heck, they were still blitzing. If we could do that then, we could have done it to start the 4th qtr or start the 3rd. Why did Zorn not go to it until he
had to go to it?
You're right. Cutler is not the answer in Washington. I think you see that JC is not either. My original point was that the front office went out to find someone else because they have lost confidence that this kid can get it supporting what I have been saying for 3 years.
JC is not the answer in Washington as long as the coaches continue to try and fit a square peg in a round hole. He is not a WCO QB at the NFL level but I really do think he would be fine running Cameron's system in Baltimore with that line. He was, in fact, drafted to run an offense pretty much just like that.
I apologize for carrying this further than I should have, I am just fed up with the "patience" this team has given a QB that has done nothing to prove he is worthy. Like I have also said, I am saddened by this because it is a reflection of a poor decision by Coach Gibbs to draft him in the first place.
No apology necessary. We are having an civilized discussion about something we all feel passionately about. My only regret about this discussion is that it isn't happening live in person over beer at some great bar.
As for patience, I give it to JC because he acts like the guy I want to cheer for. Cutler is an ass and proved it this last spring. Campbell is not and proves it daily in a very tough town. I give it because Steve Young says it takes the very best QB's 3 years minimum to really
get the WCO. The guys is a HoFer and certainly knows more of what he speaks than I do. I give it because I don't have a real alternative. Collins was a nice story a couple years ago. The right guy, in the right place, at the right time and we loved him for it. I just don't think he would do a better job of this than Jason with the current play calling and given that belief I think we stand a better chance with JC due to his mobility (when he uses it) and his arm strength.
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