The Sky is not Falling Thread

The pay Terry crowd reminds me of that song about clowns and jokers and we're stuck in the middle with them.
I have no idea what that song is. But it sounds appropriate.
 

Huh, I definitely know that song but literally NEVER paid attention to the lyrics. How 'bout that!

It's a very appropriate lyric for this situation, I think.
 
Sorry to say this but the sky fell, and our playoff hopes this year are less than 5%. We need a major fucking overhaul. Injuries decimated us. 28 zip in Q2

I'm just being honest don't tell me to turn in my fucking fan card

If this team continues in this manner? Will JD even consider signing here after his rookie contract? Serious concern there
 
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Yeah. This one didn't age well :ROFLMAO:

I still think it's quite possible that Peters will prove to be a great GM and Quinn a very good HC. But we are a long way from being able to provide evidence of it right now, and certainly no one wants to hear it. Time heals all wounds (and dislocated elbows).
 
At 3-6, hopefully the team can get back to building the team for sustained success and not continue looking for the short-term fixes.

We draft Daniels, but there was no way with the talent here in 2024 left over from the Rivera regime that this team was set up for a long run.

Mahomes enjoyed that immediate opportunity because he joined a 10-6 team that had already made the playoffs in multiple years and had drafted very well over that time in providing some core performers, which they continued to do.

They kept their draft picks and added guys like Chris Jones, Trent McDuffie, Snead and others WHILE Mahomes was maturing.

In the back of my mind I had that little voice telling me that trading for Lattimore and giving up future vital picks was probably a mistake.

All the hype around using Daniels rookie contract to win a Super Bowl was a stretch - again, because this was basically an expansion team in terms of overall talent in 2024 with new staff, front office coming in.

Realistically, we were looking at Daniels learning and growing and Washington coming out in Year 3 or 4 as a playoff team that is ascending to contender status.

Paying Daniels in Year 4 meant all those picks were VITAL to continue building under the cap.

The 2024 run to the playoffs was a bit like 2010 in that it gave a false view of where this team was from top to bottom.

I would have preferred a more traditional approach like the Patriots took where they continued to draft players and not deal picks for older veterans to try and pimp the process.

Those picks we traded with a good eye for talent could have added 3-4 contributing players and starters.

At the same time we could have continued to scan practice squads and UDFAs to bring in YOUNGER, FASTER, MORE AGGRESSIVE players over time - turning THEM over to find diamonds in the rough instead of 30 year old players that were nearing the end of their careers and have performed - at least on defense - at a replacement level.

Signing guys like Treylon Burks and taking Drake Jackson and putting him on IR to have him rehab for later in the season or 2026 - these are the kinds of cheap moves for high picks and younger guys that are hit or miss - but cost relatively little and have the potential upside of finding guys that can live up to their potential, especially in Burks case, with a better organization.

It would have been nice for Daniels to parachute into a team that was ready to support him over a 3-4 year period on his rookie deal, but we really didn't have the wide receivers, offensive linemen or defense to do for Washington what KC did for Mahomes or what the Eagles did for Hurts.

That Eagles team had a number of holdovers from the 2018 Super Bowl and Roseman was quick to amass draft picks with multiples in each round by moving down and the couple of trades he made at the time brought in AJ Brown and some other players that were IN THEIR PRIMES at the time of the deal.

Picking in the top 10-12 picks for multiple seasons also helped the Eagles.

Washington had too big a talent deficit to be picking at #29 in each round in 2025, we need additional impact core performers and those are most often found in the top 10.

A defensive star to match Daniels on offense (like the Texans started with Will Anderson to complement Stroud) and start to build a credible defense.
 
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We are squarely in the.... "Give me hope by showing you are prepping for future seasons" approach

1) IR Daniels OR sit him for like 5-6 weeks (see what the environment is before you even consider bringing him back, if that's even an option)
2) Fire Whitt
3) Sell, sell, sell... Ertz, Wagner, Deebo, Lattimore, Payne (probably others)
4) Play guys like Sinnott, Magee, Medrano
 
Adam Peters is a smart guy. I am sure that if we, as fans, are finding lessons in a tough season, he is too. I think they will 'recalibrate' and get back to roster building.
 
... and except for the Tunsil and Lattimore trades, Peters really hasn't taken any huge swings. He's mostly been plugging and patching with one-year contracts. Last year, he hit on almost all of them. I think we forget how much Peters 2024 moves were panned.

Ertz is done. Hasn't played a full season in three years. He's cooked. He's oft injured and hasn't played well when on the field. Maybe he'll last for three games before Sinnott is forced into the lineup.
Ekeler is toast. He's an over the hill running back who is out of gas which is why the Chargers gave up on him. JAG at this point.
Wagner (consensus was this was a good signing)
OZ is JAG. There's a reason why he's been on multiple teams and the Eagles didn't want him back.
Noah Brown has potential, but he's always hurt.
etc.

Somehow, all of these gambles worked out. This year, the one year gambles haven't done as well. Ertz and Wagner are still doing it, but both are a year older. Ekeler and Brown are injured. This year's OZs (Chris Moore maybe) is below JAG standards. And again, injuries, injuries, and more injuries. Plus, too many of the winners of last year like Luvu and Sainristil have regressed while those that flashed like Newton haven't really taken off.
 
I’m still not convinced that trading for Tunsil was a great move. In a vacuum it made sense but considering that we still owe a 2nd and a 4th in the 2026 draft?…things that make me go hmmm. Lattimore? I thought it was crazy at the time. I’m now certain that it was.

Was the young Coleman that bad considering? Is the offense that much better with Tunsil? Is the defense any better with Lattimore?

Those trades cost us two 3rds and one 4th, one 6th, and one 7th last draft. And one 2nd & one 4th in the next. They returned the two players plus one 4th and one 5th in the last draft. Not counting the contract $$.

Sure would be nice to have that 2nd and that 4th this coming April.

I would score those 2 trades a 3 out of 10. They have no rhythm that I can to dance to.
 
My preference for the first couple of years would have been to sign some more expensive but younger free agents and kept the draft picks.

Those picks for Lattimore, Samuel and Tunsil add up to an entire draft class.

While Tunsil is a top 10 player when healthy you can make the case that we could have found a wide receiver and corner with those picks that could have been here for long-term rather than what appears to be 1-2 year rentals.

My guess is Lattimore and Samuel are gone after 2025.

If the FO signs either to an extension at 31 and 30 at big dollars they are out of their minds.

Roseman is eating everyone’s lunch at draft, picking guys like Mailata in Round 7 who become pro bowlers or acquire impact veterans like Barkley but DONT GIVE UP PICKS TO DO SO.

And Washington’s practice squad should be a place to bring in younger players to develop not act as a taxi squad for 30 year old defensive linemen.
 
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Adam Peters is a smart guy. I am sure that if we, as fans, are finding lessons in a tough season, he is too. I think they will 'recalibrate' and get back to roster building.
This is what I'm hanging on to. Sure, we've all seen this story before. What we haven't seen is how this organisation handles adversity of this kind.

Under Snyder, there wasn't a hope in hell. Jury's still out on this setup. Maybe the post-season inquest identifies some hard but valuable lessons learned and leads to a change in attitude and strategy that leads to a better 2026 season and success beyond that. But even if Peters, Quinn et al cannot figure it out, doesn't mean Daniels can't have a successful career here long term beyondtheir tenures. It's the injury risk that has to be the concern there.
 
I thought we'd regress this season and finish around 7-9 ish before I let the media hype get into my brain, we had a magical run last year but the team still had many holes to fill and I let my rebuilds take time turn into a little bit of homerism. Now add in the unreal amount of injuries to key players and it's been a recipe for well, what we've been watching. An offense out of sync and a defense that needs an offense to score and hold time of possession. Oddly enough, I'm still excited to see how this team progresses through this abysmal stretch. Also, I was contemplating the fact that the team has played nothing but afternoon and night games of late, how much does that take a toll on the body and on the mind, then throw in a game in Europe?. We still don't have another 1pm kick off until December unless they flex us, I cannot recall another team having a schedule like this in recent memory.
 
Didn't watch the SEA game. Didn't need to. The season has been over for quite awhile (the LAC game was fool's gold) and the team have been dead men walking. All I can think to say is that the NFL is such a competitive league and the margins are razor-thin. The difference between a season like this one and last year's run is not as great as it might seem.

Right now, the focus of the ownership should be on determining if this front office staff and coaching staff are the right longterm fit. Similarly, the front office and the coaching staff need to be running the same analysis on the roster. Use the rest of the season to find answers to these questions.

Ultimately, there is only one question that matters: Is Jayden Daniels really a top tier NFL QB? Sophomore slumps happen. Injuries happen. Tough schedules. Poor roster construction. All of these are factors but the immediate future of the franchise rests on this answer. Daniels obviously gets an A+ for his rookie year. At best, this year is an Incomplete. It will be fascinating to see what next year holds.
 
We had a magical run last year with some serious holes. This season we had the perfect storm of WR1 hold out, injuries, mistakes in letting the wrong guys walk, and regression (age) from some players.

With all that , we must remember the WOS is gone. There was never hope for sustained success under his ownership. We have real hope now. I will not let a perfect storm of negatives take away my hope for the future.
 

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