The 2025 Free Agency Thread

[SkinsFTW]

ESPN on Metcalf possibly to Washington

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Washington Commanders

DK Metcalf trade: Best team fits, offers for Seahawks

DK Metcalf, Seattle's top wide receiver, has requested a trade. These 10 teams have a need and the draft picks to get a deal done.

www.espn.com

Let's finish up with the Commanders, who might have loved to hear about this news a week ago. They traded a fifth-round pick to the 49ers for Deebo Samuel while taking on the veteran's full $17.5 million commitment for 2025. I don't mind the on-field fit, but it was a lot to pay for a player San Francisco was probably going to cut and one who has hit 900 receiving yards in a season once in six years as a pro.

Metcalf has been at or above 900 receiving yards in each of his six seasons, and he is a little under two years younger than Samuel. Of course, he's also going to be more expensive, in terms of trade compensation and his coming contract extension. But given that the Commanders had plenty of cap space and a clear need for another receiver alongside Terry McLaurin, I would have argued they would have been the best possible landing spot for Metcalf in a potential trade before the Samuel deal.

Could they still justify it? Maybe. Samuel is in the final year of his contract, and the Commanders could simply choose to let him play out that deal and move on after the season, but I don't think he would respond well to seeing them trade for Metcalf while giving the former Seahawks wideout a significant new pact in the process. It also seems as if Washington would be better off devoting most of its remaining resources to its defense, which was the weaker side of the ball a year ago.

 

[skinsinparadise]

ESPN on Metcalf possibly to Washington

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Washington Commanders

DK Metcalf trade: Best team fits, offers for Seahawks

DK Metcalf, Seattle's top wide receiver, has requested a trade. These 10 teams have a need and the draft picks to get a deal done.

www.espn.com

Let's finish up with the Commanders, who might have loved to hear about this news a week ago. They traded a fifth-round pick to the 49ers for Deebo Samuel while taking on the veteran's full $17.5 million commitment for 2025. I don't mind the on-field fit, but it was a lot to pay for a player San Francisco was probably going to cut and one who has hit 900 receiving yards in a season once in six years as a pro.

Metcalf has been at or above 900 receiving yards in each of his six seasons, and he is a little under two years younger than Samuel. Of course, he's also going to be more expensive, in terms of trade compensation and his coming contract extension. But given that the Commanders had plenty of cap space and a clear need for another receiver alongside Terry McLaurin, I would have argued they would have been the best possible landing spot for Metcalf in a potential trade before the Samuel deal.

Could they still justify it? Maybe. Samuel is in the final year of his contract, and the Commanders could simply choose to let him play out that deal and move on after the season, but I don't think he would respond well to seeing them trade for Metcalf while giving the former Seahawks wideout a significant new pact in the process. It also seems as if Washington would be better off devoting most of its remaining resources to its defense, which was the weaker side of the ball a year ago.

I'd be beyond shocked if they traded for Metcalf. I am not expecting it. I wouldn't even give it a 1% chance.

I do think Hendrickson is a distinct possibiity. Saw Fowler just mentioned it just awhile ago on ESPN.

 

[skinsinparadise]

 

[SkinsFTW]

Payne was mostly good, never really very good aside from his career season. Yet, we paid them like they were elite tackles.

Hopefully they let Payne try to earn another big payday by playing out his contract this year, then let him get signed by someone else next year. He might have another great season for us.

 

[skinsinparadise]

Hopefully they let Payne try to earn another big payday by playing out his contract this year, then let him get signed by someone else next year. He might have another great season for us.

Agree, I've made similar points. We might have the hungry version of Payne this year. He can do his money signs again when he has his sacks and talk all he wants about wanting that next big contract -- I'd rent him for this year basically and then adios.

 

[skinsinparadise]

 

[SkinsFTW]

I'd be beyond shocked if they traded for Metcalf. I am not expecting it. I wouldn't even give it a 1% chance.

I do think Hendrickson is a distinct possibiity. Saw Fowler just mentioned it just awhile ago on ESPN.

Yeah I don't see it happening either. I just posted that since it's paywalled and others might want to see it.

 

[skinsinparadise]

I know its sort of boring to hype the bigger names. But I'd love it if its Stanley. Seems like everyone thinks KC is determined to sign him. Don't get me wrong, I get the perils of this signing -- durability. But beggers can't be choosers when it comes to O line. It's such a hard spot to secure talent especially at tackle so I look at it differently than other spots.

As I've mentioned, I like Jaylon Moore. At least the theory of him but i haven't watched him where I can land on an educated opinion of him. I am more leery of Dan Moore or Cam Robinson but wouldn't hate either one if the price isn't crazy.

For edge, I'd be jazzed if its K. Mack, D. Lawrence, Odeyingbo, Kandry, Koonce, Bosa.

 

[RWJ]

Durability is my only concern about Stanley but he can play "lights out" LT if healthy. One advantage is his home is in the DMV so he wouldn't have to move cross country or anything like that. Another advantage is we are a competitive team again. I still like Jaylon Moore at LT and moving Coleman to G or RT. I do believe that AP is working to strike a deal for Hendrickson as well. Question is how much $$$ does AP spend on multiple players. Both OT and DE/EDGE are BIG needs. I don't see him paying big $$$ to more than a couple players.

 

[skinsinparadise]

Just watched that Breer segment.

He said he heard Stanley will be chased by: NE, Washington, Ravens, Chiefs

He said the charm of Washington is many think they have a generational QB and he wouldn't have to move far from Baltimore.

 

[skinsinparadise]

Durability is my only concern about Stanley but he can play "lights out" LT if healthy. One advantage is his home is in the DMV so he wouldn't have to move cross country or anything like that. Another advantage is we are a competitive team again. I still like Jaylon Moore at LT and moving Coleman to G or RT. I do believe that AP is working to strike a deal for Hendrickson as well. Question is how much $$$ does AP spend on multiple players. Both OT and DE/EDGE are BIG needs. I don't see him paying big $$$ to more than a couple players.

Yeah the three sports am good with spending big: O line, D line, CB.

 

[RWJ]

Just watched that Breer segment.

He said he heard Stanley will be chased by: NE, Washington, Ravens, Chiefs

He said the charm of Washington is many think they have a generational QB and he wouldn't have to move far from Baltimore.

Yep, see the post above yours. LOL

 

[Hail Raiser]

I remember Allen fondly too. lol, even Payne who is dissapointing IMO I give props for his durabiity.

I think the drill is the Alabama Wall never became that -- both as to stopping the run or rushing the passer.

Payne never really flirted with greatness in college or in the pros aside from his career contract year. Otherwise his career, is sort of in that other Alabama tackle career arc like a J. Reed or Tomlinson. Decent but nothing special. Clear 2nd tier DT who really didn't even sniff the first tier aside from his career season. But he's definitely been at a minimum solid and durable.

Allen was the more consistent tackle. Never really in the range of Dexter Lawernce, Chris Jones -- or name that elite tackle. But for most of his career he was sort of a lower run first tier tackle. To use baseball terms, not a super star 40 homerun type power hitter. But he was mostly a consistent 28 homerun guy.

I think some of the disappointment with both is this team couldn't find super stars while other teams even loser teams like the Giants would draft some super stars. This team didn't do superstars. No great players aside from Trent. Allen was very good at times but never great. Payne was mostly good, never really very good aside from his career season. Yet, we paid them like they were elite tackles.

My point is the blame is really on the FO not the players. I think Allen in particular gave everything he had. Payne on the other hand is the underachiever of the two -- massive physical ability but doesn't seem to be moviated to greatness aside from when the pay day is right in front of him. But still I'll give Payne that he has been remarkably durable.

It was Rivera overpaying these guys. Heck judging by some of the beat guys thoughts, Kam Curl likely would have been overpaid with something nutty, like 15 million a year, from Rivera if it were not for the sale of the team going on.

Payne was a lot of fun to watch his entire career before getting paid. I really wish his contract year was him putting it together, because he looked great at times. Even going back to is rookie year. The year we drafted him our defense went from one of the worst run Ds to a pretty good one, with no other changes except him.

Allen I think was betrayed by his body and injuries which just sucks.

They also both got ragged out with absurd snap counts every year.

 

[RWJ]

Yeah the three sports am good with spending big: O line, D line, CB.

We need more talent at CB that's for sure. I don't know how much $$$ AP will spend in FA since he did so last year with Lattimore. Maybe take one early in the draft but we have so many other holes to fill.

 

[skinsinparadise]

Payne was a lot of fun to watch his entire career before getting paid. I really wish his contract year was him putting it together, because he looked great at times. Even going back to is rookie year. The year we drafted him our defense went from one of the worst run Ds to a pretty good one, with no other changes except him.

Allen I think was betrayed by his body and injuries which just sucks.

They also both got ragged out with absurd snap counts every year.

What irritated me about Payne is hearing multiple times that his coaches thought his work ethic was just OK. Not a hard worker. Not lazy. Just run of the mill. I spent one off season watching the D line closely and I recall being surprised how much Payne was handled by just one guy. I wondered if it was just me but listened to Bullock recently on a podcast, he watches a ton of coaches tape on this team, and he made the same observation. He also mentioned that Payne has very few pass rushing moves. vanilla on that front. But Allen on the other hand had a lot of moves.

With Payne when he won, he was fun because he'd blow up the play because of his physical prowess. But he didn't win much. Not a bad player. I think Tomlinson, J. Reed is a good comp to him. Decent player. The tools to be a special player but never became special. And hearing about his "meh' work ethic along with how obnoxiously loud he was about wanting to get paid in his contract year -- it made me sour on him some. But still, he's not a bad player. I think he's a solid B. Nothing more. Sort of his profile from Alabama. Good player who had the tools to be great. He lived up to the good and never become great IMO.

Allen on the other hand, I think played his heart out. And when this team sucked for most of his tenure it bothered him. Grew up a fan of this team. I think he maxed out his talent unlike Payne. He's simply not as talented as the elite tackles. He came back from his torn pec to help this team in the playoffs. I think that was a nice way for him to end his career here. He played well in the championship game, too. For me, props for his career here. I don't blame him for not being elite or blame him for Ron overpaying him.

 

[Always Commander Never Captain]

Allen took less money to play here. His agent wanted tried to convince him to use free agency to get a bigger dollar amount from us, but he just wanted the extension from his childhood team ASAP.

He was not greedy and lacking effort. Far from it.

 

[clskinsfan]

Interesting trade with the Geno Smith thing. Raiders are going to go big in FA as well.

 

[skinsinparadise]

 

[RWJ]

Jon Allen, not player but man is a class act! He gave all he had as a player and that is all an organization can ask for.

 

[skinsinparadise]

Wonder with the Seattle connections -- Carroll and Quinn consider Lockett. I know he's not at his peak form but at the same time I figure he can be had at a reasonable price. Seems like he fits the locker room type they want.

End Of An Era: Seahawks Release Tyler Lockett

The Seahawks parted ways with a franchise icon Wednesday, releasing Tyler Lockett after 10 memorable seasons in Seattle.

www.seahawks.com

Lockett was far more than just a productive pass catcher, however. He was also beloved by teammates, coaches and fans alike, and three times his teammates voted him the winner of the prestigious Steve Largent Award, which is given to the player or coach who best exemplifies the spirit, dedication and integrity of the Seahawks, making him one of three players, along with Russell Wilson and Mack Strong, to win that award three or more times.
"Man, I can go on all day," quarterback Geno Smith said when asked about Lockett. "We'd be here all day talking about Tyler Lockett. He means so much to me. Just to see an NFL player of his caliber to have the humble demeanor that he has and the selflessness that he has and just the way that—a thousand-yard receiver consistently, the consistency that he's shown and the leadership that he's given to DK (Metcalf), Jaxon [Smith-Njigba] and all those guys in that room, it doesn't go unnoticed. He's one of my best friends. He's a guy that I played against in college, so I knew exactly what he could do all along. Just being around him, his family, his wife—he's soon to be a dad—he's a special guy, a special person, and a special player."

Lockett also made a big impact in the community, leading to him twice being the team's nominee for the Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year Award, recognizing the work he did both in Seattle and his hometown of Tulsa, Oklahoma.
From his clutch catches late in games or on third down, to his spectacular toe-tapping grabs, to his numerous long catches on deep balls, Lockett was a playmaker in every sense of the word. That, combined with everything he meant to the team as a leader and to the community, made him a player universally loved and praised. Arguably no player coaxed more glowing praise out of Pete Carroll than Lockett, with Carroll, at various times, calling him "such a great player for so long," or "phenomenal," or a player with "extraordinary savvy," or a player capable of "masterpiece" performances.