The 2025 Draft Thread

Ashton Gillotte I remember looking at last year and liked him - ditto with Landon Jackson who tested much better than I thought he would. I have them pegged more as 5 tech - 43 DE types but likely fine in any front.
 
I can’t help but keep thinking that if we trade for Hendrickson that we really can draft without need. Think about how complete this defense would look if we traded for Hendrickson and drafted Benjamin Morrison. That's a top 5 defense.

Also, I can't help but think about how good Omarion Hampton would look here. Daniels. McLaurin. Tunsil. Hampton. That is a really great offensive core.
 
I can’t help but keep thinking that if we trade for Hendrickson that we really can draft without need. Think about how complete this defense would look if we traded for Hendrickson and drafted Benjamin Morrison. That's a top 5 defense.

Also, I can't help but think about how good Omarion Hampton would look here. Daniels. McLaurin. Tunsil. Hampton. That is a really great offensive core.
Except if we trade for Hendrickson we will have practically no draft ;)
 
I can’t help but keep thinking that if we trade for Hendrickson that we really can draft without need. Think about how complete this defense would look if we traded for Hendrickson and drafted Benjamin Morrison. That's a top 5 defense.

Also, I can't help but think about how good Omarion Hampton would look here. Daniels. McLaurin. Tunsil. Hampton. That is a really great offensive core.
We should save the draft picks. Next year is a killer Free Agent group of Edge. Let's save the money for that and take advantage of the depth of the edge group in this draft.
 
This is a good draft for DE just as last year was for quarterbacks.

You don’t fight the board.

Take the talent where it clusters and don’t force picks or you end up with Daniel Jones or Dwayne Haskins as a top 15 flop in a year where quarterback pickings were slim.
 
I like what we've done in free agency to address certain needs. If James Pearce drops to us at 29, I hope we gamble and draft him, he will probably be the closest thing to a sure bet as a player than anyone else at that point in the draft. This would only be my wish if we don't trade for Hendrickson.
 
This is a good draft for DE just as last year was for quarterbacks.

You don’t fight the board.

Take the talent where it clusters and don’t force picks or you end up with Daniel Jones or Dwayne Haskins as a top 15 flop in a year where quarterback pickings were slim.

Or Davis
Or Datsun
Or Forbes

Man, Riverboat Ron was a piece of work!
 
In the latest Yahoo Mock Draft (yeah I know but mock drafts are a guilty pleasure), they have Washington selecting Hampton in the first. While I think a trade down is the most likely scenario and edge rusher is still a major need, I have to admit I kind of like the thought of Hampton and Daniels in the backfield with Deebo roaming free and waiting to break tackles and Terry waiting for a medium or deep shot.
 
I do think we need to be cautious at this point of a trade for Hendrickson. We are approaching the point where we will be mortgaging our future with too many picks thrown at him.

Generally my view on picks is
1st/2nd round - immediate impact players ideally
3rd round - somewhere between impact and high probability developmental starters
4th round - high probability developmental starters.

5th onward mostly you have to choose physically imperfect technically sound individuals or physical specimens who have no idea how to actually play football who you hope you can teach how to play.

I don't sweat 5th-7th much at all. Sure it's fun to have 6 picks in 5-7 and when you hit it's awesome, but as a practical matter, it's throwing darts at increasing levels of blindness.

1st-4th tho, is a different story. Esp top 100 picks (so 1-3).

Jayden's cap hit is gonna smack us roughly around 2029ish, assuming we extend before '27 and it's a bit backloaded. Ideally at that point you have a nice conveyer belt of young talent on rookie deals that is taking on starting spots. Something like 3-4 starters from guys in each of years 3-4 of rookie deals, and something like 1-2 from guys in each og years 1-2, giving you between 8-12 starters (of the roughly 28 or so "starter" players you'll field) on rookie deals. You probably pay top dollar for an LT, WR1, Edge, CB1, and then maybe 1 or 2 of TE/RB/DT/MIKE/S but after that you're outta money.

To maintain that kind of conveyer belt of guys tho you need top 100 picks.

In fairness, 2025 picks won't be on rookie deals anymore once Jayden's hits are smacking us, and I think 2026 is the last year we can get away with sending picks away, since 2026 draft picks will be done with their rookie deals following 2029. They are kind of the "first" year where you'd want to hit on a bunch of guys if we assume 2029 Jayden cap hit is large, with them in their 4th year.

But every year after 2026 you really gotta stock up on picks and hit, hit, hit. 2027 guys on deals thru '30, and by that point we will be in cap...well at least purgatory.

The concern for moving picks this year and next year, is that the fewer picks we have now, the more we'll have to fill holes with FAs in 2027/28/29, which sort of is a self-fulfilling situation. You need talent to maintain, and FA is rarely gonna be enough in terms of talent, so you're either doing what we're doing this year, that is, trading for higher tier talent, or drafting, which takes time and is a gamble. And of course the higher tier FAs are gonna want larger and longer deals with more guaranteed money that could, once we hit 2027/28, extend cap hits and dead money into 2030/31.

So I'm good at the moment, but also wary. Moving a 2 and 4 in 26 for Tunsil is "fine" for the return, but could also have some longer term consequences 4-5 years down the road.


Now this does imo make a trade back from 29 a little more likely, maybe moving back and grabbing, say a 3rd this year and a 4th next year, and given some of the talent tiers, that may make sense for us (like if only say, 6 of the 12ish edge guys in the top 45 are gone, we can probably hop back a few spots and still get a great guy).
 
I say we trade 10M in cap space for someone's second round pick this year.

I'm actually not even sure if this can be done, but if it can then I would like to see it.
 
I say we trade 10M in cap space for someone's second round pick this year.

I'm actually not even sure if this can be done, but if it can then I would like to see it.

It can be done, technically, by trading for a bad contract. In practice it’s really only been done once in overt fashion—when the Texans traded the rebuilding Browns a 2nd rounder to take on the huge, terrible Brock Osweiler contract. There may have been other pieces involved, since I don’t think you can complete a trade in the NFL with all the pieces on one side, but that was the gist of it
 
Ashton Gillotte I remember looking at last year and liked him - ditto with Landon Jackson who tested much better than I thought he would. I have them pegged more as 5 tech - 43 DE types but likely fine in any front.
Saw that Gillotte had a down year this year production-wise, 4.5 sacks from 11 and 7 the years prior. Looks like a quality, below the radar type to me.
 
Curious to get others take, but I don’t see a ton of difference between Scourton, Jackson, Umanmielan, Sawyer and Tuimoloau, and then there are some intriguing guys like Burch, Gillotte, etc later. There are differences of course, but somewhat depends on what we’re looking for. Point being, I’m not sure trading down hurts our chances too much at a quality DE option?
 
Intriguing guy for me at edge is David Walker from FCS C. Arkansas. Won Buchanan award, 23 TFLs, 10.5 sacks, 55 pressures just last year. Been a 3 year standout. Superior athlete, but not prototypical size. Could be a late round gem.
 
DE is a pressing need and after his comments in the media I don't see Fowler coming back here, not that he was a full time DE in any event.

One way or another Washington IMO is going to get some speed and pressure ability out of this draft.
 
Do we assume we trade out of the 1st, dropping down say, 10 spots, to grab another pick or two? Obviously if you think theres one clear star there you take him, but otherwise?
 

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