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For those curious after yesterday's less-than-inspiring showing in Tampa Bay, your Washington Commanders currently hold the #2 pick in the 2025 NFL Draft.

Washington currently holds 8 draft picks in total.
  • Round 1 - #29
  • Round 2*
  • Round 3 (from Eagles/Dolphins)*
  • Round 5 (from NOLA)*
  • Round 7*
  • Round 7 (from PHI)*
  • Round 7 (from PHI)*
A lot of what this team does at the top of the draft will depend on the development of Brandon Coleman and Emmanuel Forbes, but after yesterday's failure, you have to think a top CB is likely going to be the priority.

Travis Hunter is currently considered the top CB in the 2025 draft and a guy several "draft experts" have going in the single digits but with him being tied to Deion Sanders I'd rather look at less complicated options.

*Exact picks are yet to be determined and officially confirmed.
 
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This is loserville talk but I guess until our rebuild is complete, we are still losers. It is too early for me to pay attention to draft position other than to say it is obvious we will be drafting early again after watching yesterday's game.
 
Well, in reality Dyami Brown and Zacchaeus at WR helps sentence Daniels to purgatory in 2024 if we don't get Terry more involved, get Sinnott on the field and involved, and activate Noah Brown and sit one of these other dum-dums that have wasted our time.

Brown was the #4 receiver in Houston last year and he caught more balls than Dyami Brown plus Olamide Zacchaeus combined.

That's how far down this group actually is in terms of on field performance.
 
I didn't mean to imply "loserville" so much as a realistic understanding that this is more than a one-year project, especially with a Rookie under center.

I'm facing up to the fact that even after 61% roster turnover, we still have holes in the starting units. There are also places that aren't holes but are filled by guys on short-term deals who won't be here for the finished product when it arrives in 2-4 years. I'm thinking of Wagner at MLB, Ertz at TE, and Wylie/Allegretti on the OL.

I absolutely believe this team is better than the #2 pick in the 2025 draft but unless yesterday turns out to be a total aberration in our season, we aren't going to be serious playoff contenders in December.
 
What is appalling is the fact not a lot of investment was made in assets to protect Daniels and help him transition to the NFL.

If we are in a multiyear rebuilding project and Daniels is the centerpiece for that you would think that other positions on offense such as WR would have been a top priority in Round 2 in addition to adding more than ONE offensvie lineman in 7 rounds with 10 picks.

Imagine if we had moved around and gotten the LT Kansas City is starting AND Brandon Coleman and let them fight it out for the LT spot with the loser being moved to the other side.

Instead we are treading water with aging veterans who are barely above replacement level.

And our second round Mr. Everything on offense in terms of roles, Ben Sinnott, was handing out Gatorade on Sunday.

Hard to imagine ANY SKILLED OFFENSIVE PLAYER not making it onto the field on Sunday for the opener when considering the current lineup.
 
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We don't know what they tried to do Bulldog - come on - you're piling on now. I actually think this draft may prove to be extremely solid - maybe one of the best in recent memory. I'm sure Peters is aware of where our weaknesses are. You can't upgrade every position in a single draft and free agency. It's just not possible. Nor do we have unlimited funds in a given offseason. You've mentioned the Sinnott thing at least 3-4 times already. Maybe he was dinged - who knows?
 
I don't think one game makes a draft or a season, agree there.

However, we didn't address key spots on the OL and at WR and those are precisely the ones most important to the development of a young quarterback.

Right now it is all about Daniels, not trying to find the next space eater on the DL or the next strong safety who can come up in run support.

McCaffrey is himself learning a new position coming into the NFL, he has only been a WR for two years.

So, if we put him on the longer development track and then put Sinnott as the #3 tight end and don't get him on the field, then with Coleman out there isn't much from the draft or free agency other than Ekeler to help Daniels.

Allegretti was a career backup in KC who played 2 playoff games for Joe Thuney, but he is no 17 game starter. Chiefs fans were telling me that from the get go.

So, it's not a surprise he didn't hold up too well yesterday.

And Wylie was in the same boat, a guy that started a Super Bowl and was not going to be resigned by Andy Reid and he ends up coming here for $$ and starts.
 
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I thought we'd beef up more at WR too. They did bring in Ertz and Ekeler which is helpful in the short term. And drafted McCaffery and Sinnott who may both turn out to be major contributors eventually.

I tend to agree we should have seen a bigger effort to build that fortress around our young QB.
 
I didn't mean to imply "loserville" so much as a realistic understanding that this is more than a one-year project, especially with a Rookie under center.

I'm facing up to the fact that even after 61% roster turnover, we still have holes in the starting units. There are also places that aren't holes but are filled by guys on short-term deals who won't be here for the finished product when it arrives in 2-4 years. I'm thinking of Wagner at MLB, Ertz at TE, and Wylie/Allegretti on the OL.

I absolutely believe this team is better than the #2 pick in the 2025 draft but unless yesterday turns out to be a total aberration in our season, we aren't going to be serious playoff contenders in December.

I don't think it was a 'total aberration' but I would also expect them to get better following their first game ever together, on the road against a playoff team. I think until we see some evidence they are better than what we saw yesterday, all talk of 'playoffs'
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should be avoided...
 
the defense is mildy disappointing because as we have learned from Belichick and others over the years 'want to' goes a long way to finding guys on that side of the ball.

you can't will yourself into being a 4.3 speed wide receiver with great hands, but you can be a guy that at LB or safety learns how to wrap up and tackle properly and take the right angles and be a contributor in the NFL.

what we found out yesterday is perhaps the veterans we kept on the DL inside and the few vets we brought in are either too old or not good enough any longer.

the linebackers and safeties were b**** slapped by that 37 yard WR screen for a TD. Three or four guys missed open tackles.

didn't look like a lot of guys on defense really wanted it bad enough.
 
That conditional 7th is back to being ours again now that York is bye bye. He had to be on our roster for 2 games I think.

I think we'll see a heavy concentration on Defense next year through the draft. Wouldn't surprise me to see us maybe pick up Wagner for another year (if he plays well this year) and draft heavy on the D.
Other than that, I think it's clear we need WRs but I reckon we might look at free agent splashes for that.

Our O Line looked decent enough yesterday on the whole, but wouldn't surprise me to see a mid round pick to strengthen the line too.
 
We don't know what they tried to do Bulldog - come on - you're piling on now. I actually think this draft may prove to be extremely solid - maybe one of the best in recent memory. I'm sure Peters is aware of where our weaknesses are. You can't upgrade every position in a single draft and free agency. It's just not possible. Nor do we have unlimited funds in a given offseason. You've mentioned the Sinnott thing at least 3-4 times already. Maybe he was dinged - who knows?

I think the approach this past year (in terms of what was drafted, the veterans being hired, the players we kept, and the fact we didn't empty our war chest) is to do a full season evaluation on what we have.
Now that we have the right structure in place and a new coaching staff, I really do think the game plan is that 2024 is a chance for them to truly evaluate what we have and what level of talent we have. I think it's a pretty damning indication of how Adam Peters and co viewed the coaching last year.

In my mind, the thinking is: Coaching was atrocious last year, morale was low. Resulted in a 4-13 season. Let's shore up some areas to make us at least competitive and put a better product on the field while beginning to draft for the future, get some Vets to install a better locker room culture, and evaluate players like Forbes and co to see if it was just bad coaching or do we cut bait on them before the 2025/26 season. Sunday was disappointing, but there were some glimmers of hope (mostly on offense) that as this team learns to play together as the season progresses we'll get more competitive.

The D really worries me. They're trotting out the same old 'communication issues' again. I tend to believe it a little more this year as it is a new system and a bunch of new players and coaches. Hopefully it'll settle over the next few games as everyone becomes more comfortable. But WOW did we look very much like shades of last year. Lackluster performances from the line, and the backs were a disaster. (Although I liked Sainristil's hustle. I think he's gonna be really good when he pushes through the rookie pains).

In that sense it wouldn't surprise me to see another culling at the end of this year, a draft focused on weaknesses, and some bigger free agent splashes using more of the war chest we have. I think they're confident that we finally have our QB, so I suspect we'll see big moves in the off season for a push towards relevancy and playoffs in 2025/26.
 
There continues to be misalignment of resources on the DL where all the money is invested in the DT position and we continue to add to that in the draft while DE, usually the more focal position on defense to get blind side pressure has been left to late round picks, a mid tier free agent and other more unheralded players.

The secondary is a mess. Except for Sainristil, we have kept most of the Ron picks in place with Forbes and St. Juste starting on the outside. At safety Chinn is signed for one year but again we have Quan Martin, Butler, Forrest left over from the previous regime seemingly fellow travelers on this train as you rarely see flash plays from them when they are on the field.

So on defense, a rush end and cornerback to me are the #1 needs if things continue shape up as they have been.

On offense we have the quarterback and we have running backs. We have a 29 year old McLaurin who has wasted most of his career playing for bad coaches who provided him with poor passers to work with. So, depth at wide receiver is a big need on offense. Inclusive of that need is SIZE - we need bigger and stronger players at WR to go along with deep speed.

Other teams like the Bengals seem to have a roster of 6'2 and 6'3 wide receivers. McCaffrey is a project at this point. Perhaps he was drafted a bit high for a guy who has played the position for only two years and not at a major program either. He looked like the game was going 1,000 miles an hour for him on Sunday.

On the offensive line we don't know whether Brandon Coleman is the answer at LT, RT or inside at guard.

Cosmi is going to be here. Biadiasz is going to be here for at least another year.

But that's about it.

Lucas and Wylie need to be headed out the door in 2025. Nick Allegretti I believe Washington fans will find out what KC fans were saying since his signing, he is a depth player but not a 17 game starter.

So, we need another guard in any case.

Kicker? This is an obvious need unless Seibert turns into Justin Tucker in 16 games. But I am not a fan of taking a kicker on Day 1 or 2 of the draft. Just look at Cleveland, they took Seibert in Round 5 in 2019 and York in Round 4 in 2022. And they have nothing to show for it given the vagaries of the position and the high attrition rate.

Overall then, I see on defense - rush end and cornerback the top needs.

On offense - we need a wideout with size and speed to challenge the defense and at least one tackle and one guard of quality.

If our #1 and #2 picks in 2025 are at other positions than these, I am going to start to get worried about this front office.

I still don't understand how other teams took Newton off their Day 1 draft list due to the fractured toe issues he had that final year and yet Washington went into that pick at the top of Round 2 as if everyone else just forgot he existed.

How come we didn't see the risks? How come as a rebuilding team we decided to take the risk when the team already had two starting DTs and so many other needs?

This was not the KC Chiefs coming off a Super Bowl win and picking near the end of the first round and making a move to grab what was a smallish but speed burning Xavier Worthy, taking some risk on his ability to transition to the NFL as a full-time receiver.

We don't have that luxury.
 
I think they took a flyer on Newton because we're essentially in a rebuild year. We don't need him to perform right away because we have Payne and Allen, so we can take time getting him right and then hopefully reap the benefits of his upside later in the year or in 2025. I think they view him as a replacement for Allen or Payne, and it wouldn't surprise me to see one of them traded next year if Newton looks ready to roll.

As for receiver, there's been a bunch of rumours about Devante Adams being available in free agency next year and being linked to us. I'm not saying it'll be him, but where I think it was a year early to spend big on Aiyuk this year I could see them spending big on an established WR next year to supplement Terry. Especially if it turns out that Daniels is the real deal.

The kicker thing is a mess. Like Bulldog, I hate to reach early for a kicker, but honestly I do think I'd rather try and solve the position long term and if that means drafting high then so be it.

The area I really want to either draft in the first round or make a big splash for is for the secondary. To me that seemed our biggest area of need after Sunday. I feel like our offense mostly needs time to gel and come together and we'll see that during the year. We do need another good WR weapon, but I don't know if it's as urgent as our lack of talent all over the secondary. Forbes and St Juste just haven't got it. I think Sainristil looks really promising and I suspect he'll get up to speed pretty quick. The one that I find a little odd is Martin. He looked like he might have turned a corner last year, but he wasn't great on Sunday. I think as the Defense properly beds in and sorts out any communication issues they're having over the next few weeks we'll see where the weak links truly are on Defense.

The issue is that there was too much to fix across the board last off season, and it's still looking like we're looking at a couple more off seasons to really fix everything. I'm pretty happy with the moves we made this year, I think we'll see them pay off long term, but Sunday showed just how many other spots need fixing, and it's a BIG job.
 
Now we have a #1 CB, LT seems to be functioning, what do we think is our #1 priority? DE? Will Micah become available? Will Wagner resign? Reenforce OL. WR?

We have a lot of one year contracts in 2024. Not to mention 2025 FA as well.

Thinking ahead a bit here
 
Pass Rush and WR
 
New here; so much depends on Free agency. Right now If as dynamic edge falls to us at 32 in the first seems like a possible choice. Do not see too much of an upgrade after that. OT in the top 3. Wylie is looking better but can switch to swing and backup guard. WR would be interesting. I hope that after free agency we can just go best player available and get many Newtons throughout the draft.

The Dallas Cowboys have yet to make a trade during the NFL Trade Deadline, but the franchise might be too busy making other moves.

Jon Machota of The Athletic is reporting that the Cowboys are releasing cornerback Andrew Booth. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...d0facac8&ei=19
Maybe Quinn knows something about getting value out of this guy

On the trade






on potential for next year





 
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