The 2025 Draft Thread

[36ST21]

Dexter was a crack head that couldn't read. Sean Taylor came around when he had a kid, but he was every bit as bad as Carter, if not worse.

Please send me a link to a source which documents Sean Taylor being responsible for the death of another human being while engaged in a crime himself, yet walking away scot-free.
I think that I somehow missed that one...

 

[method man]

If all Lane becomes is DeAndre Carter, that’s a hit for a late 4th but what could’ve been…

Tory Horton had his own 90 yard punt return TD yesterday and has had 2 TD catches so far. He was an advanced receiver in college and is looking like a total steal for the Seahawks.

Elic Ayomanor may be WR1 in Tennessee and has a couple TD grabs. He is a big X receiver, a role that has become harder and harder to find. Question with him will be health.

 

[Hail Raiser]

Please send me a link to a source which documents Sean Taylor being responsible for the death of another human being while engaged in a crime himself, yet walking away scot-free.
I think that I somehow missed that one...

Did I say that ST was involved in a road race? Nope. I said he had similar character concerns.

 

[Anselmheifer]

Did I say that ST was involved in a road race? Nope. I said he had similar character concerns.

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I think Sean had ATV”’s stolen and showed up with friends, one of which had a baseball bat, while Sean brandished a gun, and demanded return of the vehicles.

Based on that alone, Sean was obviously in some shit, viewed himself above laws that most of us don’t, and got away with one.

And I’m not saying that to shit on Sean. I would draft a Sean Taylor year if I could.

I’m just bringing it up to support the premise that NFL teams aren’t and should not be looking for pacifists from the Peace Corps. But, there certainly is a behavioral line there somewhere that players can’t cross. Or is there?

Tyreek Hill? Ben Roethlisberger. Ray Lewis. If you’re a star…domestic assault x 5-8, rape, being involved in an assault/murder and the coverup. Barely newsworthy, if you are a star. Keep on shining.

I’m glad those weren’t our guys. I’m also ok if we draft/sign a couple of guys with question marks, as long as we have a strong locker room and the question marks aren’t too toxic.

Who here wouldn’t take on. Lawrence Taylor or a Dexter Manley?

 

[36ST21]

Did I say that ST was involved in a road race? Nope. I said he had similar character concerns.

What you actually said was that ST was every bit as bad as Carter, if not worse. Very different than your watered-down response, but it is what it is. I'm not going to go back and forth with you when the posts are there for all to read. My last comment on this is to remind you to be careful to not hurt your back while you are moving those goalposts.

 

[DWinzit]

Sean Taylor is remembered as the great Redskin player he was. Jalen Carter is a top notch DT who is a scumbag of a person. Maybe he turns that around into a decent person but at this point, that does not seem to be in his plans. I am okay with someone that bad not being on the Commanders but guys that are a little salty, I am okay with as long as they don't pull shit like Carter.

And now back to the 2025 draft thread...

 

[skinsinparadise]

Cooper DeJean gets a lot of hype as a slot CB, but Dru Phillips is right up there with him.

We need Sainristil to emerge who has gotten to a rough start to this season -- he had a rough start last year too but then improved.

 

[SkinsNumberOne]

Cooper DeJean gets a lot of hype as a slot CB, but Dru Phillips is right up there with him.

We need Sainristil to emerge who has gotten to a rough start to this season -- he had a rough start last year too but then improved.

Sucks to see two NFCE teams there.
We have emphasized O more than D, but what it meant was there was way more pressure to hit on those few D Picks we made. I don't think Adam did poorly there, but the Mikey+Sinnott v Cooper pick, just from a simple production perspective, it's tough to gauge. Cooper has been asked to do much less though in coverage (he does contribute more on ST however), so it's hard to compare.

 

[method man]

Cooper DeJean gets a lot of hype as a slot CB, but Dru Phillips is right up there with him.

We need Sainristil to emerge who has gotten to a rough start to this season -- he had a rough start last year too but then improved.

Yep Dru Phillips was a beast as a rookie too. Schoen has had himself some good drafts recently and, if Dart looks promising, Schoen and Daboll may still have jobs next year.

If we compare our 2024 draft to theirs, Phillips is better than Sainristil (despite being taken a round later), Theo Johnson has been better than Sinnott (despite being taken 2 rounds later) and Muasau is still on the team as an offball LB unlike Hampton. Nabers, Nubin and Tracy all hits too

 

[commva2]

I know there were few folks in here who wanted Skattebo and seeing him perform for a divisional rival is a pain.

Imagine, drafting Skattebo and Bill in the same draft but I know real world doesn't work that way

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

skinsinparadise was the one I remember who was all over Skattebo. I wanted him for the single and solitary reason I wanted to hear Bram Weinstein scream "SKATTEBO!!!!" over and over and over.

I'm happy with Bill. I think Bill has a higher ceiling than Skattebo. But Skattebo brings an amazing energy and has, wait for it, MOXY.

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

Just a quick re-cap of our 2025 draft picks since we're slightly more than a 1/4 through the season:

• 1st round pick 29 - Josh Conerly Jr, OT: Starting at RT, and playing well. Had a bit of a "welcome to the NFL" start to his career going up against all-pros every week, but has settled in and playing well.
• 2nd round pick 61 - Trey Amos, CB: Starting on the outside and by all accounts doing a good job. Looks the part. Some growing pains, but you'd expect that for a rookie.
• 4th round pick 128 - Jaylin Lane, WR: Has flashed as a returner, a few catches here and there on offense. Definitely providing value on ST already.
• 6th round pick 205 - Kain Medrano, LB: He's been inactive in every game except the Falcons game. I can't find somewhere to see if he played on ST in that game or not, but he did not play on defense.
• 7th round pick 245 - Jacory "Bill" Croskey-Merritt - is doing outstanding as a running. Kliff keeps reiterating he needs to grow on plays where he doesn't carry the ball, which would be pass protection, lead blocking for another runner and as a receiver. That said, for a 7th round pick, he's leading the league in yards per attempt, and you can't complain about that.

At the moment, I think you'd have to say Peters hit it out of the park with this draft class. It's still VERY VERY early, and much can change. But when you are getting contributions from every member of the draft class except one by the 1/4 point of the season, you had a good draft.

There are always "we could have had this player instead who was picked 15 spots later."

However, fans of other teams will be doing the same thing with our picks. So I really don't value that as a really useful exercise.

So far, so good, I think.

 

[skinsinparadise]

skinsinparadise was the one I remember who was all over Skattebo. I wanted him for the single and solitary reason I wanted to hear Bram Weinstein scream "SKATTEBO!!!!" over and over and over.

I'm happy with Bill. I think Bill has a higher ceiling than Skattebo. But Skattebo brings an amazing energy and has, wait for it, MOXY.

The critics of Skattebo centered on hey he's not fast enough. And that you can't break tackles that way in the pros.

The thing is speed is helpful but isn't the be all and end all at RB. And typically RBs who run angry like that with that level of contact balance indeed translate. But the kicker with him was his hands. They threw to him a ton. He has soft hands. He can do it all aside from having breakaway speed.

I did like Croskey-Merritt, too. Lol, some on draft day, the third day joked that all must be cool with me since they took him. i posted a ton on it that third day. Having said that I didn't think he'd be THIS good.

As for who would I want now? Maybe lean towards Croskey-Merrit. But Skattebo has lived up to his billing as a physical tone setter.

 

[Mickalino]

I know there were few folks in here who wanted Skattebo and seeing him perform for a divisional rival is a pain.

Not when he's doin it to the Eagles. It's fun.

Skattebo gave the whole Eagles team the Tush Push, by kickin their arses all night

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

The critics of Skattebo centered on hey he's not fast enough. And that you can't break tackles that way in the pros.

The thing is speed is helpful but isn't the be all and end all at RB. And typically RBs who run angry like that with that level of contact balance indeed translate. But the kicker with him was his hands. They threw to him a ton. He has soft hands. He can do it all aside from having breakaway speed.

I did like Croskey-Merritt, too. Lol, some on draft day, the third day joked that all must be cool with me since they took him. i posted a ton on it that third day. Having said that I didn't think he'd be THIS good.

As for who would I want now? Maybe lean towards Croskey-Merrit. But Skattebo has lived up to his billing as a physical tone setter.

I don't know how much more you're going to get out of Skattebo than you're getting now. He's physical, try hard and has moxy. He'll improve, but how much? Eh, not sure. He's not going to get a lot faster.

I think Bill can get a lot better. He has to develop as a receiver and blocker. He's probably about how good he will be as a ball carrier. But the other parts of his game can improve a lot.

 

[Always Commander Never Captain]

I'm still in the doubting territory for Skattebo. It feels like every run of his is just difficult. There's a decent chance the Eagles are worse than we thought, and they clearly gave up on the last drive. 5 carries for 44 yards on his last drive, whereas he had 14 carries for 54 yards the rest of the game. The latter total is about similar in YPC he's had in the other games this season. That feels more true to form.

I'm not scared of Skattebo being a good draft pick for the Giants, that's not my bias. I am however scared that Dart is a great draft pick for them. He still has a lot of things to improve, but the core abilities for him look really good. That pocket movement and scrambling are just so good already. He throws on the move so well too.

 

[Anselmheifer]

I don't know how much more you're going to get out of Skattebo than you're getting now. He's physical, try hard and has moxy. He'll improve, but how much? Eh, not sure. He's not going to get a lot faster.

I think Bill can get a lot better. He has to develop as a receiver and blocker. He's probably about how good he will be as a ball carrier. But the other parts of his game can improve a lot.

I half agree. Last night is the best case scenario for Skattebo. And I thought he looked just how I’m sure they hoped he would. He definitely had a bunch of really physical 3 yard runs.

But he also wore the Eagles down, and you could see that by the end of the game, they wanted no part of him. Players from the Eagles’ secondary just gestured at trying to tackle him on the goal line instead of actually trying. And that type of thing wasn’t just on a play or two. The fact that he started slower and made big gains in the 4th is exactly what you’d expect from a really physical running game. I’m glad I’m not a player from the Eagles having to watch film from that game.

I’d say rather have Bill. But, Skattebo would be an incredible thunder to Bill’s lightning. And I’d be ecstatic to have him here instead of Rodriguez.

Also, it was one game. But, Dart looked like a franchise QB. More dynamic than I’ve ever seen Hurts look, really. He was Jayden Daniels esque. Elevating a team without their top 2 WR’s.

Dart does look reckless though. He might just get himself killed with his running style. I don’t think that running style translates over a whole season.

 

[SkinsFTW]

I'd rather have JCM too. Scat averaged under 4ypc for the year before that last drive. Now he's up to a whopping 4.1 ypc. He'd be great to have in the 2nd half of games you are going to win anyway and on the goal line but JCM is much more exciting and will make bigger plays.

 

[burgold]

Sounds like Skattebo is what he hoped BRob would have been. He's a three yards and a pile of dust power back. Kliff wants a different weapon than a sledgehammer. Chris Rodriguez serves that sledgehammer role just fine when we need him to.

 

[DWinzit]

Sounds like Skattebo is what he hoped BRob would have been. He's a three yards and a pile of dust power back. Kliff wants a different weapon than a sledgehammer. Chris Rodriguez serves that sledgehammer role just fine when we need him to.

In fairness he is better than what we expected from BRob because of his receiving skills which seems to be overlooked to date. However, he has already accumulated 18 receptions and that is no surprise at all