Finally! The Lunch Thread!

Yes, you do! Better hurry! I recommend Mike's Crab House in Annapolis. Right on the South River. Zoom to Baltimore. Zoom down I-97. Riva Rd exit. You're there.

Re gyros, the most horrible gyro I ever had was at this place called "The Big Greek Cafe." It's a chain and it sucks. The one I went to is In Norbeck. It was so bad, I didn't have another one for ten years. Ten years later, I tried it again and it was just as bad. Way too hot. Obviously microwaved to death.

Another not so good gyro is the new Marathon deli at College Park. They bought out the original Marathon deli. The meat is cut into chunks. That's not right. The pita was barely warm, just slightly above room temp. It had cold spots. Not doing that again. It's a shame, because the previous owners taught them how to do it correctly and they decided to take short cuts.

Best gyro ever was at the original Marathon Deli in College Park, owned and run by a Greek family. It was literally thirty feet from the U of MD campus. They did a fantastic job. I went there when I was a student and I'd still be going there today if they hadn't sold out. They kept the gyro exactly the same for at least forty years.

I can make a damn good gyro at home, tyvm. Not quite as good as the original Marathon, though.
 
Needed a Bauer battery over at Harbor Freight in Catonsville. But you know while I was in the area, I had to go by Pioneer Pit Beef and get me one. Best pit beef sandwich in the country.

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Needed a Bauer battery over at Harbor Freight in Catonsville. But you know while I was in the area, I had to go by Pioneer Pit Beef and get me one. Best pit beef sandwich in the country.

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Dang, never got to try one. My first wife grew up in Catonsville, and by the time I’d met her, the parents had moved to Ellicott City, near Centennial Park. Spent a good bit of time in the area, surprised my FIL didn’t turn me on to this. Our go to there was always Dimitri’s shish kebab.
 
Needed a Bauer battery over at Harbor Freight in Catonsville. But you know while I was in the area, I had to go by Pioneer Pit Beef and get me one. Best pit beef sandwich in the country.

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I made some pit beef for the Metallica tailgate the other day. I use Meatheads recipe...basically dry brined a couple of bottom, (or top...I can't remember which), round roasts the night before. Used his Mrs. O'Leary's Cow crust and smoked 'em at 250 until they hit 115 internal on the Weber Smokey Mountain then seared them on Warp 11 on the gasser until the internal temp hit 130 and had a nice crust. I cooked it the day before med-rare, sliced almost paper thin, and served it up cold with horseradish, mayo & bbq sauce. No onions, because it skanks up the cooler. Of course my brother and I taste tested for quality control when the meat was hot with the onions. Everyone said it's the best pit beef that they ever had and they were sober :LOL:

Edit: I typically use whatever store made Kaiser rolls are on sale..but used those pre-sliced Amoroso kaisers rolls that you're so fond of.
 
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Metallica??? Damn you are hard core, bro

Best pit beef they ever had? It had to be the Amoroso rolls, right? :p

Let's get into it here...

You remember Steve and Sandy from the pre-tailgate tailgate on Redskins Rd. I know you have met them. They were there early every game. They would come down from Lancaster County, PA. Took them about an hour and a half. So one time, we decide to do steak subs, and Sandy says she'll take care of the sub rolls. She was insistent. So the following game, she brought these Amoroso sub rolls, and they were the best roll I had ever had. It makes a steak sub taste like it was made at a really good steak sub place. It was like night and day. This was like 10-15 years ago. So yeah, she was right! My understanding is, the Amoroso rolls are the go-to rolls at any Eagles tailgate.

So from that point forward, I made it my mission to get a connection to them. They come from Philadelphia, you know, and they're not readily available anywhere in the DC area that I could find, back then.

I finally found a grocery store in the Baltimore area called Shop Rite which regularly stocked them. But it was in Glen Burnie, right there on Crain Hwy, Rt 2. A bit of a drive for me, 45 mins, but worth it.

That store eventually closed down or moved or something, but fortunately, Aldi began opening stores at right about that time. In fact, I think they opened one right across the street from Shop Rite, so maybe that's why they closed. Anyway, Aldi's were stocking them! There's one in Layhill which is a lot closer than Glen Burnie, so that's my go-to now.

However, I've never had or even seen Amoroso Kaiser rolls. I get the Amoroso Club rolls. It's the only ones Aldi stocks.

However, there's a trick to using them. You must heat them up. Ideally, one would bake them at 350 for eight minutes. This will give them a certain crunch, and also bring the aroma and flavor out. That's what makes them so great.

So if they're great for steak subs, naturally, I'm gonna use them for pit beef, when I make pit beef at home.

I have lived most of my life in Maryland, but I have never heard of Pit Beef until around 2013. They don't have pit beef in Montgomery County. Not then and not now. But I saw a recipe for Baltimore Pit Beef in the WP back in 2013 and I was intrigued enough to cut it out and put it in my recipe scrap book. Here it is, but there's probably a paywall.


I never did make it.

So then a half dozen years later in 2019, the WP did a bunch of reviews on what they thought were the best pit beef places. The vast majority of them were right around Rt 40, in or just outside of Baltimore, east and west.


I finally decided it was time to go on a little adventure, so I figured out the closest place that looked pretty good, and that was Pioneer Pit Beef. Drove out there alone and tried it. Wow I was blown away. It was so juicy and so tender and so amazing. So when I got a chance, I brought non-FB Anne up there and she loved it as well. Next thing you know, we were bringing our daughters and our friends. And then THEY were bringing their friends.

There is always a line. If there's some place which serves food and there's a line - you know it's good. Pioneer always has a line.

A really cool thing they did back then was they'd offer you a long dangling piece of meat right after you ordered.

So you tell 'em you would like a pit beef sandwich, medium rare. They'll start slicing the beef based on your request. And then they'll pull a dangling piece of meat out of the pile. This thing will hang like four inches from the cook's gloved fingers. He'll dangle it in front of you. So you take it from him right there at the counter and put it in your mouth. Then you give the cook a discerning look of approval, a quick nod, he smiles, and goes about finishing loading up your sandwich. See - it's kind of like being in a nice restaurant and the waiter offers you a taste of the wine to sample, and so you swirl it, smell it, taste it, consider it, and then hopefully approve it. It's kind of like that. I thought that was the coolest thing ever, to have them hand you that meat like that to sample. Who does that??? And it wasn't a small piece of meat either! Pretty awesome.

But then the pandemic came and they stopped that practice. I hoped they'd bring it back, but they never did.

So from there, I've tried other places. And none of them are as good as Pioneer. Jake's Grill is close. The others, meh.

What gives Pioneer the edge, besides being juicy and tender, is that the sandwich is drippy. You don't dare eat it in the car because you're gonna mess up your shirt for sure. The sandwiches at the other places aren't drippy like Pioneer.

So then I decided to try cooking it at home. Anything that's this delicious needs to be made at home too. But Pioneer is going to be my reference. I won't be satisfied unless my cook is as good as Pioneer. And that's kind of my opinion about burgers too. My burger has to be at least as good as Sunshine or I'm not satisfied with my cook.

And so my first attempt was actually Meathead's recipe! I am a big Meathead fan and have a lot of respect for him. He doesn't just tell you what to do, but he explains why. Here's his pit beef recipe.


The cook was good, but not as good as Pioneer. The meat wasn't as tender. And I wasn't sure why. I tried it several times. Not as good. At the time, I blamed the Meathead recipe.

Long story short, the problem, apparently, was that I was using a London Broil back then, which translates to a top round.

I eventually tried Adam Witt's method. He uses a large Bottom Round. A bottom round has slightly more fat in it. It's also generally a larger hunk of beef. I think both these things are beneficial to the final product.

As I recall, Boone tried this same method, the Adam Witt YT method, and described it as "insanely delicious."

So that's my go-to now. Bottom round with a toasted Amoroso roll. My pit beef sandwich is now just as good as Pioneer. Mission accomplished. :D
 
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Metallica??? Damn you are hard core, bro

Best pit beef they ever had? It had to be the Amoroso rolls, right? :p

Let's get into it here...

You remember Steve and Sandy from the pre-tailgate tailgate on Redskins Rd. I know you have met them. They were there early every game. They would come down from Lancaster County, PA. Took them about an hour and a half. So one time, we decide to do steak subs, and Sandy says she'll take care of the sub rolls. She was insistent. So the following game, she brought these Amoroso sub rolls, and they were the best roll I had ever had. It makes a steak sub taste like it was made at a really good steak sub place. It was like night and day. This was like 10-15 years ago. So yeah, she was right! My understanding is, the Amoroso rolls are the go-to rolls at any Eagles tailgate.

So from that point forward, I made it my mission to get a connection to them. They come from Philadelphia, you know, and they're not readily available anywhere in the DC area that I could find, back then.

I finally found a grocery store in the Baltimore area called Shop Rite which regularly stocked them. But it was in Glen Burnie, right there on Crain Hwy, Rt 2. A bit of a drive for me, 45 mins, but worth it.

That store eventually closed down or moved or something, but fortunately, Aldi began opening stores at right about that time. In fact, I think they opened one right across the street from Shop Rite, so maybe that's why they closed. Anyway, Aldi's were stocking them! There's one in Layhill which is a lot closer than Glen Burnie, so that's my go-to now.

However, I've never had or even seen Amoroso Kaiser rolls. I get the Amoroso Club rolls. It's the only ones Aldi stocks.

However, there's a trick to using them. You must heat them up. Ideally, one would bake them at 350 for eight minutes. This will give them a certain crunch, and also bring the aroma and flavor out. That's what makes them so great.

So if they're great for stead subs, naturally, I'm gonna use them for pit beef, when I make pit beef at home.

I have lived most of my life in Maryland, but I have never heard of Pit Beef until around 2013. They don't have pit beef in Montgomery County. Not then and not now. But I saw a recipe for Baltimore Pit Beef in the WP back in 2013 and I was intrigued enough to cut it out and put it in my recipe scrap book. Here it is, but there's probably a paywall.


I never did make it.

So then a half dozen years later in 2019, the WP did a bunch of reviews on what they thought were the best pit beef places. The vast majority of them were right around Rt 40, in or just outside of Baltimore, east and west.


I finally decided it was time to go on a little adventure, so I figured out the closest place that looked pretty good, and that was Pioneer Pit Beef. Drove out there alone and tried it. Wow I was blown away. It was so juicy and so tender and so amazing. So when I got a chance, I brought non-FB Anne up there and she loved it as well. Next thing you know, we were bringing our daughters and our friends. And then THEY were bringing their friends.

There is always a line. If there's some place which serves food and there's a line - you know it's good. Pioneer always has a line.

A really cool thing they did back then was they'd offer you a long dangling piece of meat right after you ordered.

So you tell 'em you would like a pit beef sandwich, medium rare. They'll start slicing the beef based on your request. And then they'll pull a dangling piece of meat out of the pile. This thing will hang like four inches from the cook's gloved fingers. He'll dangle it in front of you. So you take it from him right there at the counter and put it in your mouth. Then you give the cook a discerning look of approval, he smiles, and goes about finishing loading up your sandwich. See - it's kind of like being in a nice restaurant and the waiter offers you a taste of the wine to sample, and you swirl it, smell it, taste it, consider it, and then hopefully approve it. It's kind of like that. I thought that was the coolest thing ever, to have them hand you that meat like that to sample. Who does that??? And it wasn't a small piece of meat either! Pretty awesome.

So then the pandemic came and they stopped that practice. I hoped they'd bring it back, but they never did.

So from there, I've tried other places. And none of them are as good as Pioneer. Jake's Grill is close. The others, meh.

What gives Pioneer the edge, besides being juicy and tender, is that the sandwich is drippy. You don't dare eat it in the car because you're gonna mess up your shirt for sure. The sandwiches at the other places aren't drippy like Pioneer.

So then I decided to try cooking it at home. Anything that's this delicious needs to be made at home too. But Pioneer is going to be my reference. I won't be satisfied unless my cook is as good as Pioneer. And that's kind of my opinion about burgers too. My burger has to be at least as good as Sunshine or I'm not satisfied with my cook.

And so my first attempt was actually Meathead's recipe! I am a big Meathead fan and have a lot of respect for him. He doesn't just tell you what to do, but he explains why. Here's his pit beef recipe.


The cook was good, but not as good as Pioneer. The meat wasn't as tender. And I wasn't sure why. I tried it several times. Not as good. At the time, I blamed the Meathead recipe.

Long story short, the problem, apparently, was that I was using a London Broil back then, which translates to a top round.

I eventually tried Adam Witt's method. He uses a large Bottom Round. A bottom round has slightly more fat in it. It's also generally a larger hunk of beef. I think both these things are beneficial to the final product.

As I recall, Boone tried this same method, the Adam Witt YT method, and described it as "insanely delicious."

So that's my go-to now. Bottom round with a toasted Amoroso roll. My pit beef sandwich is now just as good as Pioneer. Mission accomplished. :D
I remember Steve & Sandy!
I think I used bottom round but a big difference maker is that I used my slicer and did very thin slices. The Amoroso rolls have grown on me, and you can tell by the texture out of the bag that they need to be toasted for the best texture & flavor. It was a "cold" tailgate...no grills so I served 'em up on un-toasted rolls.
I love me some Metallica! We saw the same tour, but with different opening bands at Metlife stadium last June.
2nd concert in 2 weeks at Raljon stadium. AC/DC a couple weeks ago. It's a great venue for concerts.
Do you remember Dave Halter, (Halter91 from the ES days)? We've been friends since the early 2000's when he and his buddies tailgated with the group. He and I are big Metallica fans and we went to the Raljon & Jersey concerts together too.
 
Yeah, Dave Halter - he used to run Redskins Roadtrips - a bunch of us went to the @ Eagles game back in 2005 I think. Tarhog and Blade were there too!
 
Bottom round is correct
Slicer is also critiçal
 
Bottom round is correct
Slicer is also critiçal
True.
I rarely break it out unless I'm slicing a lot of meat. It's a kick-ass commercial grade (lite) slicer, but it does take a while to clean. I slice the onions first, paper thin...
 
I would love a slicer, but there are two problems.

1) I really don't have a place to put it.

2) I know I would barely use it.

And the fact is, using a sharp knife, I can actually slice pit beef thinner than what a slicer would do for me. I can shave it.

The downside is, it takes time. And meanwhile, the temp of the meat is dropping by the minute, which isn't good.
 
I would love a slicer, but there are two problems.

1) I really don't have a place to put it.

2) I know I would barely use it.

And the fact is, using a sharp knife, I can actually slice pit beef thinner than what a slicer would do for me. I can shave it.

The downside is, it takes time. And meanwhile, the temp of the meat is dropping by the minute, which isn't good.
I'm in the same boat, especially #2.
The slicer I have can shave slices paper thin and more consistently than I can with a sharp knife,(and I keep my knives razor sharp), but it's a PITA to clean and I'm OCD about clean.
I haven't bought a pit beef beef sandwich out in a while but I remember them using a knife. The slices were thin but thicker than I do on the slicer.
Back in the day, I don't recall anyone using slicers at the pit beef places that I frequented,(The Canopy in Glen Burnie & Beefalo Bob's in Pasadena), and never at a bull roast. They used those big, sharp knives and a large 2-pronged fork to serve it up..they also served great pit turkey and ham....but those guys had great knife skills.
 
Yeah, Dave Halter - he used to run Redskins Roadtrips - a bunch of us went to the @ Eagles game back in 2005 I think. Tarhog and Blade were there too!
Here we are at both shows...the weather was definitely better at Metlife, but both concerts were kicked ass!!

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I remember Dave Halter - nice guy. Big into softball if I'm not mistaken. Someone should invite him over here :)
 
I'm in the same boat, especially #2.
The slicer I have can shave slices paper thin and more consistently than I can with a sharp knife,(and I keep my knives razor sharp), but it's a PITA to clean and I'm OCD about clean.
I haven't bought a pit beef beef sandwich out in a while but I remember them using a knife. The slices were thin but thicker than I do on the slicer.
Back in the day, I don't recall anyone using slicers at the pit beef places that I frequented,(The Canopy in Glen Burnie & Beefalo Bob's in Pasadena), and never at a bull roast. They used those big, sharp knives and a large 2-pronged fork to serve it up..they also served great pit turkey and ham....but those guys had great knife skills.

Okay - great pic above!

I've seen people complain about their slicer, saying it doesn't slice thin enough, so I assumed most homeowner slicers are like that. Good to know you can get one that will slice super thin. The guy at Pioneer uses a slicer and it's plenty thin, but it's a commercial slicer, of course.

You should check out the Pioneer pit beef sandwich. It's not that far. Just jump on the beltway heading west (clockwise), go up a few exits, get on Rt 40 west, and I think it's the second light you make a right. A couple miles up the road and you're there. Easy peasy.
 
Here's my first soft shell crab sandwhich made at home. On a toasted Amoroso roll, of course. This was probably five days ago. It was okay - not as good as the ones at the restaurant. I think I need a better batter to fry them in. The batter I used was the one I use for fried oysters. I was surprised that I didn't have to prep them! I was learning on YT and the recipes that I have to cut off the face and all that, but everything was already done. All I had to do was fry it! Easy peasy.

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For someone who grew up eating Maryland Blue Crabs, I cannot believe I have never had a softshell crab sandwich.

That's exactly what I said following one of Redwolf's posts - and Skinsfan1311 started making fun of me so I made it my mission to have one. Now I can't stop eating them. :p
 
Here's my first soft shell crab sandwhich made at home. On a toasted Amoroso roll, of course. This was probably five days ago. It was okay - not as good as the ones at the restaurant. I think I need a better batter to fry them in. The batter I used was the one I use for fried oysters. I was surprised that I didn't have to prep them! I was learning on YT and the recipes that I have to cut off the face and all that, but everything was already done. All I had to do was fry it! Easy peasy.

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I thought that was a bacon sandwich. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

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