Burner's Burning Questions: Free Agency, The Mock Drafts, 2017 (Continual Updates)

Honestly can't say I'm gonna get too worked up about a guy getting a misdemeanor at a concert. Not assault charges, not drunk driving or intoxication stuff...things just got rowdy and he did what several people do and tried to get out of it first by exiting the situation.

Things may come to light outside of that, but this dude is supposed to be aggressive to an extent. Sometimes things get escalated at a party/concert situation, and as long as there aren't assault charges or the like, I don't see it as a big deal.
 
Reports are saying the officer witnessed him hitting someone. When told to stop, Galette took off and was tased due to failure to comply to orders. From what I've read if he hadn't run chances are no arrest or charges filed.
 
Reports are saying the officer witnessed him hitting someone. When told to stop, Galette took off and was tased due to failure to comply to orders. From what I've read if he hadn't run chances are no arrest or charges filed.

Some people don't realize not to run. Some people have it ingrained in them most of their life that it is best to run. He is obviously one of those people. Not gonna hold that against him.
 
Dude shouldn't have run...but I can understand.

(Apologies to Chris Rock)
 
Honestly can't say I'm gonna get too worked up about a guy getting a misdemeanor at a concert. Not assault charges, not drunk driving or intoxication stuff...things just got rowdy and he did what several people do and tried to get out of it first by exiting the situation.

Things may come to light outside of that, but this dude is supposed to be aggressive to an extent. Sometimes things get escalated at a party/concert situation, and as long as there aren't assault charges or the like, I don't see it as a big deal.

If this were an isolated incident, then yes, for sure.
But as we all know, Gallette is viewed as a high-risk player, both for injury reasons, and behavioral.
So, as far as the team is concerned, this could be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
 
Scot M was Gallettes man on the inside and primary supporter. Be interesting to see if others in the organization felt as strongly about him… We will find out soon.


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If this were an isolated incident, then yes, for sure.
But as we all know, Gallette is viewed as a high-risk player, both for injury reasons, and behavioral.
So, as far as the team is concerned, this could be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

If this was an assault charge, I'd be leaning your direction on this. It isn't though. I'll honestly be surprised if this is anything other than a blip in the offseason.
 
Free Agency, The Mock Drafts, 2017(Continual Updates)​

Greetings from BBQ to everyone in BGO land.

Today we bring you the latest mock as we get closer to the draft of 2017 and it features two different trades – this is our only multiple trade mock for 2017. The roster will be full of new prospects before you know it.

As we get closer to the draft the frequency of mocks will increase. We are just over two weeks away. This week we are featuring three mocks and next week will bring four. During the week of the draft, we will have a mock each day. Along the way we will feature mocks that have trades. Too, we will not be featuring mocks that have a trade involving Kirk Cousins – only if and when that actually happens.

Feel free to offer your own ideas about the draft, free agency, team cuts, team additions, coaching changes and anything else related to these subjects. Too, we’d like to see your mocks if you are so inclined.

An extra note that we will continually post throughout the mocking process: These mocks may not necessarily be what BBQ wants or what the members at BGO may prefer. These mocks are designed to try and get into the mind of the Redskins brain trust and see what they will do. It’s not an easy task, but we’ll try to do our best.

Without any further delays, let’s take a look at the latest mock for 2017.

Team Needs:
Free Safety
Defensive Line
Inside Linebacker
Left Guard
Running Back

Round One: Trade
The Redskins trade down in round one to the very latter stages and pick up a second and fourth rounder.

Round One: Malik McDowell, DE, Michigan St.
The commitment to the defensive line this offseason is real and totally obvious. With a new defensive line coach, the Redskins are placing a new emphasis on the front seven. The All-Big Ten stud is a powerful force who is a major disruption for opposing quarterbacks and running backs alike. Although he could play inside for a few snaps each game, his greatest potential is likely at end. There are a couple of concerns about his work ethic, but those fears are somewhat overblown and he could shine with Jim Tomsula as his position coach. McDowell recently added fifteen pounds of muscle and his measurements are now 6-6, 295.
Other Possible Targets:
Marlon Humphrey, CB, Alabama
Christian McCaffrey, RB, Stanford
O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama
Reuben Foster, ILB, Alabama
Malik McDowell, DE, Michigan St.
Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio St.
Haason Reddick, ILB/OLB, Temple
Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan

Round Two: Budda Baker, FS, Washington
The first name just screams “Football Player”, but this Husky is a very talented free safety and possesses superior speed. The All-PAC-12 performer can cover large swaths of the football field and is tenacious in coverage. Plays with unending confidence. A bit of a liability in the running game, but his quickness makes up for that skillset. Can focus in on receivers and stay with them step for step. Baker needs to improve his tackling and should do so with good coaching. A natural free safety.
Other Possible Targets:
Justin Evans, FS/SS, Texas A&M
Kevin King, CB, Washington
Joe Mixon, RB, Oklahoma
Obi Melifonwu, SS, Connecticut
Adam Shaheen, TE, Ashland
Adoree Jackson, CB, Southern California
Chris Wormley, DE/DT, Michigan

Round Two: D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas
The Redskins have been looking for a consistent running game in recent years. Alfred Morris departed after slowing down during his last year in a Redskins uniform. Matt Jones wasn’t the answer. Rob Kelley is a good running back, but only in a relief role. Chris Thompson is a passing down back. D'Onta Foreman from the BIG 12’s Longhorns could be the answer. This extra luxury pick in the second round allows the Redskins to reach a bit. He’s a big, powerful, bruising, and intimidating back who has a great reputation for picking up major chunks of yardage every time he touches the ball. Incredibly quick. A true goal line threat. Consistently breaks tackles. Very effective on screen passes. A team first player.

Round Three: Sidney Jones, CB, Washington
Let’s get rid of the bad news first. Sidney Jones had a serious leg injury at the Huskies pro day and he will likely miss the 2017 season. The good news? The Redskins can possibly grab the best corner (arguably, before injury) in this draft right here. So what can the Redskins expect from the All PAC 12 standout in 2018? Tough competitor. Rarely allows separation from receivers. Consistently shut downs his side of the field. Superior speed. Elite agility. Should be a shutdown corner for a decade or more. Moderate to low risk, but very high return.
Other Possible Targets:
Carlos Watkins, DT, Clemson
Tanoh Kpassagnon, DE, Villanova
Anthony Walker, ILB, Northwestern
Cooper Kupp, WR, Eastern Washington
Nate Peterman, QB, Pittsburgh
Montravius Adams, DT/DE, Auburn

Round Four: Trade
The Redskins trade their early pick in this round and move to the very latter stages of round four. The team picks up fifth and sixth rounders along with a 2018 fifth round selection.

Round Four: Isaac Asiata, G, Utah
This very strong and powerfully built guard could be a target for the Redskins. Asiata has played tackle and center, but mostly out of necessity due to injuries along the Utes offensive line. The PAC 12 lineman has the prototypical size to play inside and left guard is his natural position. Excellent in the rushing offense, but will need some work in the pass protection schemes. This four year starter could crack the starting lineup by mid-season, maybe sooner.
Other Possible Targets:
Dalvin Tomlinson, DT/DE, Alabama
Vincent Taylor, DE, Oklahoma St.
Elijah Qualls, DT, Washington
Jake Butt, TE, Michigan
Brendan Langley, CB, Lamar
Trey Hendrickson, OLB/DE, Florida Atlantic

Round Four: Josh Reynolds, WR, Texas A&M
With the trade that produced this fourth rounder, the Redskins use the flexibility to choose a wide receiver from the Aggies of the SEC. Steady, dependable, reliable. Not flashy, but can be a Pierre Garcon type of player who is able to provide steady production. Good route runner. Typically wins contested passes. Deceptively fast. Able to create separation much of the time. Not necessarily a red zone or home run threat, but can get you plenty of catches and yards in the open field.

Round Four: Ryan Glasgow, DE/DT, Michigan
The Redskins decide to snatch another defensive lineman in this round as the they waste little time in trying to improve the defensive line. The Big Ten defensive lineman adds to an overhaul. Glasgow, the younger brother of Detroit offensive lineman Graham Glasgow, is a relentless defender who can play tackle and end interchangeably. With a humble attitude, the Wolverine takes a simple blue collar approach to the game and does his job. Dominant in the run game and is an effective pass rusher.

Round Five: Jarron Jones, DE/DT, Notre Dame
Jones is a productive force at defensive tackle and end. He has superb athleticism for a man his size and figures to play more at the end, but could slide inside at times. Jones has the potential to dominate offensive linemen when he is in a groove and can live in the backfield. The ACC (Affiliated) standout uses his length to block passes and possesses a respectable pass rush. He can disappear at times during a game, but Jim Tomsula will likely provide good coaching and motivation.
Other Possible Targets:
Jeremy Sprinkle, TE, Arkansas
Charles Walker, DE/DT, Oklahoma
John Johnson, FS, Boston College
Taylor Moton, G/OT, Western Michigan
Eddie Vanderdoes, DT/DE, UCLA

Round Five: Nico Siragusa, G, San Diego St.
At 6-5 and 330 pounds, Nico Siragusa obviously has the size to play on the line and he also has the talent. The long term starter for the Aztecs is not related to that other Siragusa, but he could forge a solid career in the NFL. The MWC product is powerfully strong and helps to open big holes for running backs. Struggles a bit with pass protection and will likely need a year to learn and perfect those techniques – as such, he is very teachable and a good teammate.

Round Six: Josh Tupou, DT, Colorado
There are some humongous, towering, massive mountains in Colorado – Telluride, Pikes Peak, Mount Elbert, Crestone Peak, Josh Tupou. He’s big! He eats only one meal a day – it last about eight hours. Ok, enough of the lame one liners. Let’s get to the obvious – Very strong. Plays with a passion. Good at the point of attack. Handles double teams with ease. A major cog in the middle. Excels in the rushing defense. Provides a decent pass rush. Can play in both a 3-4 and a 4-3 defense. At 6-3 and 355, the PAC 12 standout can actually run a 5.3 forty. A true Buffalo indeed.
Other Possible Targets:
Delano Hill, SS/FS, Michigan
Jordan Morgan, G, Kutztown
Josh Augusta, DT, Missouri
Jehu Chesson, WR, Michigan
C.J. Beathard, QB, Iowa
Richie Brown, OLB/ILB, Mississippi St.

Round Six: Jay Guillermo, G/C, Clemson
Jay Guillermo is versatile and can play either guard or center. That’s a good reason for the Redskins to take a flyer on him. Also, there is a need to have a backup at center. He would be drafted for depth purposes, but could actually be a starter within a year or two. The ACC lineman has the massive size that is favored in the NFL for inside positions on the offensive line. Good pass protector, but would need to work on the running game.

Round Six: Jordan Evans, ILB, Oklahoma
Jordan Hill was considered a fringe prospect before the 2016 season. In some ways he is still an obscure prospect, but the BIG 12 linebacker for the Sooners could be the best sleeper prospect of the 2017 draft. Good tackler. Superior athleticism. Hard-nosed player. Very physical. Excellent in pass defense. Very quick. Always knows where the football is located and gets there quickly. Shoots gaps with lightning speed. Good run defender. Probably needs to add about five to eight pounds of muscle. Excellent special teams prospect.

Round Seven: David Jones, FS, Richmond
David Jones is a really special athlete. He was selected the preseason defensive player in the CAA, but an early season injury derailed part of his senior season. He returned a few weeks later and was still able to capture second team All-American honors. Last summer, Jones was projected as a second or third rounder and considered to be one of the top five free safeties available in the 2017 draft. If the Redskins are looking for a major steal, Jones would fit that profile. Decent speed. A special teams standout. Goes 6-3, 215. Plays the middle of the field like a boss. Wins “jump” balls consistently. Excellent attitude. Diligent student of the game. Graduated early (December).
Other Possible Targets:
Pharaoh Brown, TE, Oregon
Ben Boulware, ILB, Clemson
Elijah Hood, RB, North Carolina
James Quick, WR, Louisville
Ben Braden, G, Michigan
Hardy Nickerson, ILB, Illinois

Round Seven: Tyrique Jarrett, DT, Pittsburgh
The Redskins continue their commitment to stocking defensive linemen in 2017. Jarrett will need time to develop, but the All-ACC standout from Pitt would be a good addition late in the draft. Clogs up the middle very well. Would be solid in the running game, but does not bring much of a pass rush. Needs to develop a little more of a mean streak. . Good attitude and dedicated teammate. Could develop into a fine rotational player in the next year or two.

Undrafted Free Agent Prospects:
Dayon Pratt, OLB, East Carolina
Patrick Ricard, DE/DT, Maine
Erik Austell, G, Charleston Southern
Adam Griffith, K, Alabama
Chad Williams, WR, Grambling
Derrick Griffin, TE, Texas Southern
Will Holden, OT, Vanderbilt
Joey Ivie, DT, Florida
Patrick Towles, QB, Boston College
Tony Stevens, WR, Auburn

Prospects Contacted, Interviewed, Visited:
East-West Shrine game - EW
Senior Bowl - SB
Combine – NFLC
Team Pro Day – TPD
Team Visit – TV
Private Workout – PW

Billy Brown, WR, Shepherd – EW
Avery Moss, DE, Youngstown St. - EW
Erik Austell, OT, Charleston Southern – EW
De’Veon Smith, RB, Michigan - EW
Tony Stevens, WR, Auburn - EW
Channing Stribling, CB, Michigan – EW
Joey Ivie, DT, Florida – EW
Forrest Lamp, G, Western Kentucky – SB
Ryan Glasgow, DT, Michigan – SB
Brendan Langley, CB, Lamar – SB
Josh Reynolds, WR, Texas A&M - SB
Marquez White, CB, Florida St. – SB
Ben Gedeon, ILB, Michigan – SB
Tarell Basham, DE/OLB, Ohio – SB
Zach Banner, OT/G, Southern Cal – SB
Montravius Adams, DT, Auburn – SB, NFLC
Dalvin Tomlinson, DE, Alabama – SB, NFLC
Patrick Vidal, DL, Catholic Univ. – PW
Christian McCaffrey, RB, Stanford – NFLC, PW
Dalvin Cook, RB, Florida St. – NFLC, TV
John Ross, WR, Washington – NFLC
O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama – NFLC
JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, Southern Cal – NFLC
Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina – NFLC
Jordan Leggett, TE, Clemson – NFLC
Avery Gennesy, OT, Texas A&M – NFLC
William Holden, OT, Vanderbilt – NFLC
Danny Isidora, G, Miami – NFLC
Patrick Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech – NFLC
Solomon Thomas, DE, Stanford – NFLC
Caleb Brantley, DT, Florida – NFLC
Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama – NFLC
Chris Godwin, WR, Penn St. – NFLC
Tanoh Kpassagnon, DE, Villanova – NFLC, PW, TV
Jabrill Peppers, SS, Michigan – NFLC
Adoree Jackson, CB, Southern Cal – NFLC
Jordan Willis, DE, Kansas St. – NFLC
Malik Hooker, FS, Ohio St. – NFLC
Budda Baker, FS, Washington – NFLC
Jamal Adams, FS, LSU – NFLC
Malik McDowell, DE, Michigan St. – NFLC
Obi Melifonwu, SS, Connecticut – NFLC, PW, TV
Cameron Lee, G, Illinois St. – NFLC
Josh Tupou, DT, Colorado – TPD
Raekwon McMillan, ILB, Ohio State – PW
Patrick Towles, QB, Boston College – TPD
Taco Charlton, DE, Michigan – TV, PW
Patrick Ricard, DE/DT, Maine – TPD, PW
Derrick Griffin, TE, Rice – TPD
Niles Scott, DT, Frostburg St. – TV
Dayon Pratt, OLB, East Carolina – TPD
T.J. Watt, ILB/OLB, Wisconsin – PW
Chad Williams, WR, Grambling – PW
Haason Reddick, ILB/OLB, Temple – TV
DeMarcus Walker, DE, Florida St. – TV
Josh Jones, SS, N.C. State – PW

There is your latest mock for 2017 and prospect lists. Free agency is winding down and the draft will be here before you know it. See you as we go along.

Hail To The Redskins!
 
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I like the allocation of talent to position in this round.

I do believe we need to take a running back in the draft and before the #6 or #7 round.

But at the same time, I agree with this mock-up that to do so at #17 overall as many draftniks have us doing would not be the best use of our resources given the depth of the position/candidates available.

The other move I just can't see is Jay Gruden accepting the team taking Lamp at #17.

He wants a play-maker on offense or defense with that #1 pick whether it's at #17 or #24, etc.

With Scot out of the organization you would have to think Gruden's power in the War Room has only increased.
 
I still wouldn't be shocked to see Cousins traded at start of draft. Even with Allen saying no trade, Cousins saying no, and 49ers traveling to work out QB's this close to draft makes me wonder.

If we were going to do a LTD with Cousins it would be prudent to get it done and behind us, plus it would free up some more cap space.

Right now don't have a lot of warm fuzzy feelings about our FO and management.
 
Still betting a LTD gets done prior to the draft.


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Freeing up cap space isn't necessary quite yet.

But if they're gonna trade him, then they need to do it ASAP. A sharp knife cuts the deepest, and heals the fastest.

Of course, it is entirely possible that "a deal he can't refuse" isn't presented until draft day.

If that happens, I think people can live it. Provided it truly is an offer we can't refuse.
 
True, we don't need the space right now, but it would give some stability to the position.
 
I still wouldn't be shocked to see Cousins traded at start of draft. Even with Allen saying no trade, Cousins saying no, and 49ers traveling to work out QB's this close to draft makes me wonder.

If we were going to do a LTD with Cousins it would be prudent to get it done and behind us, plus it would free up some more cap space.

Right now don't have a lot of warm fuzzy feelings about our FO and management.

Still betting a LTD gets done prior to the draft.

BB has an interesting theory in another thread that we might be waiting until next year for a LTD with Cousins, due to a gazillion dollars in cap money opening up then. Perhaps the FO is whispering in Cousins' ear (in my own paraphrase) "Just stick around baby, and next year, we'll make it all worth your while".

So as opposed to this being a dysfunctional organization, it could be the complete opposite : a brilliant, patient, mathematician move, by our FO and Capologists.

Cousins wins a couple playoff games this year, and maybe next year he becomes the highest paid player ever.

A 2018 Cap of 80 Million or more. That's almost Cleveland Brown money. We could almost "buy" draft picks like they did. But I tend to think we'll buy the rest of Cousins life, instead.

Inspired from this thread/quote

https://www.bgobsession.com/sons-washington/111938-redskins-sign-lb-zach-brown.html

Josh Norman's cap drops by about $13M in 2018 and is very team friendly in the remaining years.

All of this means the Redskins cap swells to around $80M (for now) next year. Think Kirk Cousins. Now you come to the realization that he is here long term.
 
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I don't buy it. Cousins will only get exponentially more expensive. That's true regardless of how big the cap is or how much space we have. Only barrier to a deal soon is Cousins and his agent imho.


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I agree that Cousins price tag could grow quite a bit next year. Although "exponentially" is quite an exaggeration, IMO.
But there's a flip side to that - there's one other relevant thing that would grow in a year - and this one would be favorable to the Redskins' side : confidence in Cousins being, or close to being, a championship-level QB.

Right now, there is still some legitimate doubts and concerns about how far Cousins can take us.
We could pay him now handsomely, and take a chance on those doubts.
Or we could get even more confirmation in one more "prove-it" season, where he erases virtually every doubt, and proves he's not just a "Stats-Guy" as Ax would put it, but true diamond in the rough.

Paying him with a bigger price tag next year, but with greater confidence he's a Brady-type QB (or soon to be, or something close to Brady), which means lesser perceived risk than there is now, may be a gamble they're willing to take.
 
Yeah, they could always do the deal this year, but have the big part of it pay next year.

I would think.
 
I agree that Cousins price tag could grow quite a bit next year. Although "exponentially" is quite an exaggeration, IMO.
But there's a flip side to that - there's one other relevant thing that would grow in a year - and this one would be favorable to the Redskins' side : confidence in Cousins being, or close to being, a championship-level QB.

Right now, there is still some legitimate doubts and concerns about how far Cousins can take us.
We could pay him now handsomely, and take a chance on those doubts.
Or we could get even more confirmation in one more "prove-it" season, where he erases virtually every doubt, and proves he's not just a "Stats-Guy" as Ax would put it, but true diamond in the rough.

Paying him with a bigger price tag next year, but with greater confidence he's a Brady-type QB (or soon to be, or something close to Brady), which means lesser perceived risk than there is now, may be a gamble they're willing to take.

Good lord man - don't you think we've already gone the 'prove it to us' route and look where that's gotten us? We could've gotten him for a modest contract but we had to wait for him to 'prove it'. If this Front Office didn't learn from that approach, and is applying the same logic this time, he's all but gone.

I think exponentially increased cost if we wait is a certainty and here's why. First of all, if they franchise him yet again, they will (by default) have to pay exponentially more - so much so that that's not even a viable option. If they put the 'transition tag' on him, that means they have the right to match other teams offers. Letting Kirk hit the open market and having to match = exponentially more. And even if Kirk agrees to negotiate pre-tagging of any kind, he'll have another super solid 2017 season and will demand to be paid what the market warrants - which will be a lot more than his asking price right now.

I really don't see how one can argue otherwise - but feel free :)

Until a QB takes a team to the Promised Land, there are always doubts. But two full seasons of data is more than enough to determine what Cousins capabilities and ceiling are or aren't. So the team either believes he's the guy or they don't. I think all evidence points to them having already determined they need him as the longterm starter. The only issue is getting a deal done. That's not going to get easier as time progresses. If we haven't already figured that out, we really are as clueless as the mediots would have us believe.
 
I think Kirk's true colors come out this year. What can he do without Garcon and Jackson? We don't make the playoffs, no deal imho. We need another insurance QB this year draft. We may have to use him. I prefer to give QBs that are already on the roster a chance, rather then be faced with trading up to get one in a crap shoot. If you stockpile them, and then not need them, they still hold future trade value.
 
If no deal by July 15, then Cousins waits and hits the open market in 2018. To franchise him for 3rd (and final time) his cap hit would be something in the $34-35 million range. I don't care how much cap increases, this is a lot of money to allocate to one guy.
 

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