Burner's Burning Questions: Free Agency, The Mock Drafts, 2016 (Continual Updates)

Is this BGO,The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen or The International Loyal Order of Friendly Racoons? ;)
 
We have added Vernon Butler of Louisiana Tech to the prospects list of players contacted by the Redskins. More names are likely to surface tonight and will be posted tomorrow.

Lequon Treadwell “underperformed” at bit at the combine. That was expected as he is a football player (the kind Scot McCloughan likes) and not a track and field stud. He could fall to the 21st overall pick and the Redskins would likely snap him up quickly.

Kirk Cousins was initially offered a contract of around $12.5M a year, then $15M. His agent wants just over $19M a year. A deal in the $16M to 17M likely gets done at some point. All of this is just normal posturing from both sides.

Grant Paulsen ‏@granthpaulsen
QB rate per year guide:
$20M+ AAV: Elite.
$18M, $19M: Pro Bowl passer.
$16M or $17M: Solid veteran
Under $16M: Rookie deal or benchable vet.

Watch for David Morgan as a late round prospect at TE out of Texas-San Antonio. He goes 6’4” and 262. Much better as a blocker – a very good blocker.

Jordan Reed changed his diet and practice habits last offseason. He credits making those changes as the reasons for staying healthy and being productive (timely info there).
 
Thanks for all the nice words. It's appreciated. Just your responses alone is worth the effort. Staying busy these days is important. Details on my FB page.

Got up at 5 this morning and have been going at it all day. TV is on for a certain basketball game. Should complete today's football stuff for today in a few hours. So many things happening at the combine and I am trying to organize templates and spreadsheets for all of it.

No issues with the debates. No apologies needed. We are passionate about the team and it would be boring if we all agreed on everything. We all want the same goals - wins and championships. Keep on posting and speaking your minds. I like it.
 
It is believed that the interest in Vernon Butler as a first round pick for the Redskins is very much in play.

Word is starting to slowly spread at the combine that Robert Griffin is finished as a player. His speed is absolutely gone. It is likely that he tore the ACL in the regular season game against the Ravens. It only made it worse to continue playing and thus, it could end his career.

The Redskins were probably interviewing Robert Nkemdiche to gauge his maturity and dedication. Given that he tossed fellow teammate Laremy Tunsil under the bus, it stands to reason that some teams have taken him entirely off of their draft charts.

Junior Galette has fired his agent and could be pricing himself too high for what the Redskins want to pay. It is now 50-50 that he returns to DC. He wants a one year deal, but the Redskins want a multi-year contract filled with incentives. He must wait five days to hire a new agent.

The Redskins have interviewed Penn St. QB Christian Hackenberg at the combine.
 
Yes, sorry. I didn't mean to sully BB's awesome thread with my negativity. It really is great work. :)

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Word is starting to slowly spread at the combine that Robert Griffin is finished as a player. His speed is absolutely gone. It is likely that he tore the ACL in the regular season game against the Ravens. It only made it worse to continue playing and thus, it could end his career.
Two things...

1. Not being able to run hasn't kept Brady, Manning, etc... from playing football. Granted, Griffin will have to learn to play from the pocket, which I believe he can. Don't know if he will. But the notion that his career is over because he's not THAT fast anymore, seems absurd.

2. If it's true that he tore the ligament in the Ravens game, then Dr. Andrews and Mike Shamahan should be in prison. And the Washington Redskins should be disbanded, and eliminated from the NFL. Forever.
 
Agree Ax, Griff is still athletic enough, rocket arm and can probably learn the how to.
The conundrum, will he continue to get injured while he learns.
 
Hard to know Tom. I think the bigger issue is, if a torn knee ligament was missed, on ANYONE, and you know there had to be an MRI done, then the doctor in charge should lose his license, forever, and go to jail. And the team should be held responsible as an accomplice to the negligence.
 
I have a feeling there must be more to the Griffin story. There has been reports about his lack of respect in the locker room. There has been reports about him having a hard time learning to be a pocket passer and playing under center. Chances are there are things we don't and won't know that make up much of his story.

Griffin seems like a very likable person. I wish things had turned out different. Whatever happens wish him the best.
 
The Redskins would be willing to take a seventh rounder for Robert Griffin (as has been mentioned here), but that is not realistic. As stated yesterday, some teams think his career is over due to injuries.

New England may take a look at Chris Ivory, Joique Bell, Alfred Morris, and Matt Forte when FA opens.

With the 2016 draft extremely deep with defensive linemen, could the Redskins score a huge bargain in FA and get some quality in the draft as well? The numbers really favor the Burgundy and Gold.

Jaylon Smith (can’t miss OLB prospect from Notre Dame) may not be selected in the draft. The nerve damage to his knee, foot, and leg is that serious. Every team has confirmed their concerns.

On the flip side, teams have been impressed with Smith’s attitude. He is vowing to do whatever it takes to make a comeback.

DE Chris Jones of Mississippi St. has impressed at the combine. Could he join his former teammate (Preston Smith) in the NFL? It’s possible.

BBQ will now take Antwaun Woods off the table (we mocked him with the second of two seventh round picks) and leave him on the watch list for remaining mocks. He suffered what could be a serious pectoral injury yesterday.

The franchise/transition tag deadline is tomorrow at 4pm EDT.

Look for Robert Griffin to be released sometime tomorrow if a tag is used on Kirk Cousins.

NFL competition committee will consider making the chop block illegal this offseason. If that happens, the running game for all teams will greatly suffer.

Ole Miss DE/DT Robert Nkemdiche will probably slide in the draft. There are too many character flaws and BBQ will not include him in any mock or watch list.

Even if a tag is applied to Kirk Cousins, the Redskins can negotiate a new contract until July 15. Look for a deal to get done at some point by then.

If the Redskins use the transition tag, Cousins can bring only one offer sheet to the team. The Redskins could match or refuse. At that juncture the negotiations are over and he is signed.
Rich Tandler ‏@Rich_Tandler
He would be able to bring back one offer sheet. Redskins would decide on that and that’s it.

If Cousins signs the franchise/transition tag, it becomes fully guaranteed.

Yes, the transition tag is thought to be a very real possibility.
 
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Hard to know Tom. I think the bigger issue is, if a torn knee ligament was missed, on ANYONE, and you know there had to be an MRI done, then the doctor in charge should lose his license, forever, and go to jail. And the team should be held responsible as an accomplice to the negligence.

I suspect the Griffin camp would have made a lot more noise about malpractice if he actually was misdiagnosed.

Remember how Griff was incensed about not playing the Browns. Yep, his fuss could have been based on bad diagnosis but what I recall was a sprain that could be stabilized by the brace, team wanted him to rest it he wanted to play on it.

Don't forget that tweak he had against Seattle.... the one where he asks Trent not to say anything, that one is the one I think led to the total collapse of the joint but he insisted on playing on and for whatever reason Shanny let him do it.

Also, this time of year the rumor/opinion mills are at max production.... who wants to pay a guy that much with THIS problem.

Meh, maybe his next team will find something next physical
 
Jim Miller and Pat Kirwan(NFL Radio Moving the Chains) have a new website up that's
chock full of football knowledge.

Here's Jim Miller's first Mock Draft: https://realfootballnetwork.com/2016/02/29/millers-1st-mock/

He has the Skins taking:

21. Washington – Vernon Butler, DT, Louisiana Tech
A versatile player who can line up at NT or 5-technique and play on all three downs. Jason Hatcher isn’t getting any younger, and free agent Terrance “Pot Roast” Knighton was never in shape to even play 3 downs.

Just passing it along...........
 
Jim Miller and Pat Kirwan(NFL Radio Moving the Chains) have a new website up that's
chock full of football knowledge.

Here's Jim Miller's first Mock Draft: https://realfootballnetwork.com/2016/02/29/millers-1st-mock/

He has the Skins taking:

21. Washington – Vernon Butler, DT, Louisiana Tech
A versatile player who can line up at NT or 5-technique and play on all three downs. Jason Hatcher isn’t getting any younger, and free agent Terrance “Pot Roast” Knighton was never in shape to even play 3 downs.

Just passing it along...........

Louisiana Tech defensive tackle Vernon Butler lives up to billing at Senior Bowl practice | The Advocate ? Baton Rouge, Louisiana

Nice article on Butler posted above.

I think that to develop a championship level team, character counts as much as talent. I'd have no problem selecting a crop of players that are commended as much for their attitude and approach to football as they are for their play.

Butler seems like the type of guy that would fit the McCloughan mold - big, passionate about the game, wants to be the best, quality character.
 
Free Agency, The Mock Drafts, 2016 (Continual Updates)​

The offseason is continuing to churn along now as teams are fully immersed with retooling their rosters by releasing players, restructuring contracts, offering new deals, placing franchise and transition tags, looking at free agency, and planning for the draft. BBQ takes the latest look at free agency and there are more scenarios to consider. March 9, the official start of the new NFL season, is just under one week away. We take the latest chatter from Redskins Park and media pundits as BBQ tries to formulate what could happen in the coming weeks. Who will the Redskins target, re-sign, release, and tender? We try to answer those questions and more. Feel free to offer your ideas on free agency and the draft.

Free Agents Obtained:
Ziggy Hood, DE, Chicago

Unrestricted Free Agents:
Kirk Cousins, QB (Franchised)
Colt McCoy, QB (Possibly Re-signs)
Alfred Morris, RB (Unknown)
Pierre Thomas, RB (Likely Walks)
Darrel Young, FB (Likely Re-signs)
Logan Paulsen, TE (Unknown)
Alex Smith, TE (Very Likely Walks)
Josh LeRibeus, C (Very Likely Walks)
Kedric Golston, DE (Unknown)
Frank Kearse, DE (Likely Walks)
Terrance Knighton, DT (Unknown)
Keenan Robinson, LB (Very Likely Walks)
Junior Galette, LB (Likely Re-signs)
Mason Foster, LB (Likely Re-signs)
Desmond Bishop, LB (Very Likely Walks)
Cary Williams, CB (Very Likely Walks)
Will Blackmon, CB (Unknown)

Restricted Free Agents:
Tom Compton, OT (Likely Tendered and Re-signs)
Duke Ihenacho, SS (Unknown)

Exclusive Rights Free Agents:
Will Compton, LB (Very Likely Re-signs)
Chris Thompson, RB (Very Likely Re-signs)
Tress Way, P (Very Likely Re-signs)

Possible Cuts, Cap Savings, Candidates For Restructure:
Robert Griffin III, QB - $16.5M Fully Saved (Will Be Released or Traded)
Pierre Garcon, WR – (Likely Stays - $8M Saved if Cut)
DeSean Jackson, WR – (Likely Stays - $6.75M Saved if Cut)
Dashon Goldson, S – (Very Likely Restructures - $8M Saved if Cut)
Andre Roberts, WR – (Very Likely Cut - $3M Saved if Cut)
DeAngelo Hall, S – (Restructure? Unknown - $3.4M Saved if Cut)
Jason Hatcher, DE – (Retires? Cut? Restructure? - $4.2M Saved if Cut)
Perry Riley, LB – (Restructure? Candidate For Release? - $4M Saved if Cut)
Shawn Lauvao, OG – (Unknown - $3M Saved if Cut)
Kory Lichtensteiger, C – (Leans Toward Staying - $2.95M Saved if Cut)
Jeron Johnson, S – (Leans Toward Staying - $1.07M Saved if Cut)
Nick Sundberg, LS – (Unknown - $1M Saved if Cut)
Adam Hayward, LB – (Unknown - $945K if Cut)
Ryan Grant, WR – (Unknown - $550K Saved if Cut)
Jackson Jeffcoat, LB – (Likely Cut - $600K Saved if Cut)
Jerell Powe, DT – ( Very Likely Cut - $600K Saved if Cut)

Here are some of the free agents that could be targeted. Obviously, the Redskins can’t sign each player, but having what looks to be substantial cap room will allow for some flexibility. Who do you like in this list and who would you avoid?

Possible Free Agent Targets:
Quarterbacks:
Chase Daniel, Kansas City

Running Backs:
Lamar Miller, Miami
Chris Ivory, NY Jets

Wide Receivers:
Marvin Jones, Cincinnati

Tight Ends:

Offensive Tackles:

Guards:

Centers:

Defensive Tackles:
Damon Harrison, New York Jets
Ian Williams, San Francisco

Defensive End:
Jaye Howard, Kansas City

Linebackers:

Cornerbacks:
Brandon Boykin, Pittsburgh
Jeremy Lane, Seattle

Safeties:
George Iloka (FS), Cincinnati
Tashaun Gipson (FS), Cleveland
Isa Abdul-Quddus (SS), Detroit
Tony Jefferson (SS), Arizona (RFA, No Compensation)

Several changes have been made for this week and are reflected in the listings.

We have made changes to the statuses of Terrance Knighton (changed to unknown), Kory Lichtensteiger, DeAngelo Hall, Colt McCoy, Jason Hatcher, Logan Paulsen, Junior Galette, Robert Griffin, III, Keenan Robinson, Alfred Morris, Kirk Cousins, and Dashon Goldson (very likely stays with a restructure). Other players above have their situations mentioned, but no other insight is known at this time. The situation for Alfred Morris became interesting again when Jay Gruden mentioned (at the combine) that the team is still evaluating what may happen. Could the popular running back return?

We have decided to include very good football players on the free agent list from other teams only. It is almost impossible to know who of the “lesser” players could be targeted, so no attempts will be made unless media chatter dictates otherwise. Obviously the Redskins can’t sign each player, but we think that one two very good free agents could be on the table. In fact, BBQ has learned that a certain defensive tackle interests the Redskins – strongly. The same is true for a young free safety.

We’ll update the free agency situations frequently and as media chatter warrants. Give us your thoughts on free agency and what you think will happen.

Hail To The Redskins!
 
I can understand why the Redskins want to sign Galette to multi-year deal at a bargain price coming off the ACL injury. But for a veteran who has posted double digit sacks in the past, that's not realistic.

He's willing to sign a team-friendly one year 'make good' deal and I think that's the way to go for 2016.

We really don't know what the upside to Preston Smith is at this point. If he continues to develop into an upper echelon player, the team may only need Galette as a bridge for the next year or so, and that would fit in with his testing the free agent market in 2017.

Meanwhile, I am in full agreement with finding a NT-DT anchor with the first pick and continuing to draft defense in a year where the talent volume seems to be on that side of the ball.

Terrance Knighton is a guy that is showing himself to be the same player he was in Denver. Very effective and even dominant in spots, but way overweight and out of shape to be a guy that is on the field for more than 30% of his unit's snaps during the season.

It's a tribute to Knighton's ability that teams continue to sign him and start him despite his fitness issues, if he ever made a commitment to playing at the weight the coaches want and working out in the offseason, he would net the big contract he is looking for.
 
Lamar Miller is unfortunately looking like more and more of a long shot. While he may not be the biggest RB name in FA, it seems teams are now recognizing his talent.

Dolphins, Lamar Miller talking about the $5 million a year range | ProFootballTalk

He's about to be paid like an elite back.

$5 million a year sounds like a lot for a RB, but maybe it isn't that crazy when I think about Garcon getting $10 million and Kirk getting $20 million.

I suspect that Scot will just ride with Matt Jones, and pick up another cheaper guy in the draft.

Just keep him out of Dallas.
 
Rich Tandler said that this is the year when Matt Jones needs to step up or this season will be his last in Washington. BBQ agrees.

The Redskins had $5.8M carry over from the 2015 cap, thus making the Redskins 2016 cap stand at just over $161M.

The extra cap space allows the team to carry the Kirk Cousins franchise tag without any huge implications. The team would certainly prefer to work out a long term deal and lower the cap number. It will likely get done by July 15.

As long as the franchise tag is in place, the effort to sign Jordan Reed to an extension is on hold.

Rich Tandler has an excellent article on how the draft will become even more important in the coming years.
With more high-priced players, draft is key for cap management | CSN Mid-Atlantic

Kirk Cousins has signed his franchise tender and plans to participate in the offseason programs.

Ian Rapoport has tweeted that the Redskins are among a few teams who are interested in trading for Rams QB, Nick Foles. BBQ thinks otherwise.

Speaking of quarterback, the Redskins haven’t drafted a one in several years. This year is a must as young talent is needed to develop. Also, the cap hit for franchising Kirk Cousins next year will be north of $23M.

However, it is believed that Cousins has his feet planted on terra firma and will want to get a deal done by this summer. Cousins will not seek offers from other teams and this would indicate that a long term deal likely gets done before July 15.

I see a lot of chatter about Vernon Butler – here and elsewhere. Don’t be surprised if he becomes the focal point of many BBQ mocks in the first round. It’s justified.

Negotiation window for new free agents starts at 9am EST on Monday. Free agency opens at 4pm EST on Wednesday.
 
Somebody put the Foles rumor out there as disinformation.

The Redskins have too many holes to plug in the draft to think of trading picks for a quarterback that is the same age as Cousins.

As far as running backs go, I wouldn't sign Lamar Miller. Not at $4-$5M a year.

The Patriots won Super Bowls with bargain free agents Antowain Smith, LeGarrette Blount, etc. at running back.

There are only a handful of backs that are worth premium dollars in today's pass happy NFL and none of them are going to be on the market.
 
Agreed on not overspending on RB's. It's not like back in day. If you've put your team together right--meaning you can defend, have a legitimate NFL QB, a solid OL, a balanced offensive scheme and decent pass-catchers, you can win Super Bowls without an elite back.

Yes, we had one in Riggins for the first title, but once the Gibbs/Beathard machine got rolling and all the pieces were in place, we contended for and won titles with just guys at RB. An old George Rogers and rookie Timmy Smith ... Brian Mitchell ... Keith Griffin ... Jamie Morris ... Earnest Byner and rookie Ricky Ervins.

I'll be surprised if we spend any significant FA dollars on a back any time soon. I don't think that's Scot's vision.

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And just for shits and giggles, because I love looking at this stuff in the offseason ...

NameYardsStartEnd
John Riggins7,47219761985
Clinton Portis6,82420042010
Larry Brown5,87519691976
Stephen Davis5,79019962002
Alfred Morris4,71320122015
Terry Allen4,08619951998
Earnest Byner3,95019891993
Cliff Battles3,51119321937
Mike Thomas3,35919751978
Ladell Betts3,17620022009
Don Bosseler3,11219571964
George Rogers2,90919851987
Charlie Harraway2,65919691973
Rob Goode22571,9491955
Joe Washington2,07019811984
Ricky Ervins2,02619911994
Andy Farkas1,96619381944
Joe Theismann1,81519741985
Brian Mitchell1,75119901999
Dick James1,74119561963
Dick Todd1,57319391948
Gerald Riggs1,55719891991
Charley Taylor1,48819641974
Clarence Harmon1,37419771982
Reggie Brooks1,35819931995
Keith Griffin1,34319841988

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