Lanky Livingston
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Allen: "Goodell, Mara and the NFL can bend us over a table, but galdurnit, we don't have to like it!" /shakesfist
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Burner’s Burning Questions – Offseason Edition, Free Agency
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tshile
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there are some options?
WHAT OPTIONS!?
You got 36 million stolen from you and you're acting like a little bitch about it. If you're mad, do something about it. Otherwise sit down and shut up.
There are no more options. You either sue or you walk away. Those have been the only two options for the last 8 months where have you been?!
WHAT OPTIONS!?
You got 36 million stolen from you and you're acting like a little bitch about it. If you're mad, do something about it. Otherwise sit down and shut up.
There are no more options. You either sue or you walk away. Those have been the only two options for the last 8 months where have you been?!
tshile
Guest
Snyder has no balls. He only fights when he's bigger than the other person.
Chump.
Chump.
Well I'm glad we're moving past injury-prone guys like Brown ...
tshile
Guest
Yeah, isn't he 32 and out of the league?
Maybe he's just a solid backup?
Oh, and here's my imitation of bruce allen
"I gathered you all here today, to ask pretty please mr NFL will you explain to me where our money went? I just can't quite figure it out, and you wont answer my text messages anymore, so I thought I'd have a press conference and ask you in front of everyone."
Maybe he's just a solid backup?
Oh, and here's my imitation of bruce allen
"I gathered you all here today, to ask pretty please mr NFL will you explain to me where our money went? I just can't quite figure it out, and you wont answer my text messages anymore, so I thought I'd have a press conference and ask you in front of everyone."
tshile
Guest
marty - "tough break mike, thought you might get away with it"
mike - "yeah, ****ing vinny gettin us from the grave"
marty - "yeah, that guy was scum"
mike - "you should have fired him when you had the chance"
marty - "LOL"
mike - "LOL"
marty - "...."
mike - "yeah, ****ing vinny gettin us from the grave"
marty - "yeah, that guy was scum"
mike - "you should have fired him when you had the chance"
marty - "LOL"
mike - "LOL"
marty - "...."
Q: Were there teams that you enjoyed beating that pertained to the cap penalty?
Shanny: Yes.
lol
Shanny: Yes.
lol
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****ing ridiculous that both local radio stations that cover the skins didn't stream the presser. I hated to listen to Czabe and worse yet LaVar hoping someone would play it.
Ax
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You have to give Shamahan and Allen equal billing on this one.
Burner’s Burning Questions – Offseason Edition, Free Agency – Part Six
The new NFL year begins today at 4 pm EDT. In this sixth installment of the offseason edition of BBQ, we give you our continuing analysis of free agency. Once again, the cap limitations that were placed on the Redskins in 2012 will affect them in 2013 as well. BBQ is going under the assumption that none of the money will be recovered and has taken a look at how the FA period could unfold. New developments in recent days have brought changes to the FA pool. Let’s take a look at the latest news and possibilities.
Q1: Who has been re-signed?
Kory Lichtensteiger
Rob Jackson
Darrel Young
Logan Paulsen
Nick Sundberg
Chris Baker
Santana Moss - restructure
Adam Carriker - restructure
Q2: Who has been released?
Jammal Brown (contract voided)
Brandon Banks
DeAngelo Hall
Q3: Who are the pending free agents for the Redskins and of those players, who should stay and who should walk?
Answer: Here is the list with suggestions. Feel free to give your thoughts on who should stay and who should go.
Quarterback: Rex Grossman – Walk. We have two capable QBs and a third prospect can be added in the late rounds of the draft or as an UDFA.
Tight End: Fred Davis – Keep. Will he recover from his Achilles injury in time for the new season? Are the Redskins looking for his replacement in the draft? This is now leaning to “Keep” based on reports that the team wants him to return.
Tackle: Tyler Polumbus – Keep. Obviously, Polumbus is not the long term answer at right tackle, but he is a reliable backup who can fill in when needed.
Tackle: Jordan Black – Walk. He saw little time on the field this season and was also suspended.
Safety: Madieu Williams – Walk. Simply put, he is a liability in all facets of the game and should not return.
Outside Linebacker: Chris Wilson – Walk. His contributions over the years are certainly appreciated, but it is time to move on.
Outside Linebacker: Lorenzo Alexander – Keep. The all-everything player should be a lock to stay – as it should be and it is not up for debate.
Cornerback: Cedric Griffin – Walk. Started the season poorly, but rebounded somewhat. Just the cost alone is enough to make the team look elsewhere.
Inside Linebacker: Bryan Kehl – Walk. Little to no impact at LB during the season makes him a free agent.
Punter: Sav Rocca – Keep. His production dropped dramatically in 2012, but there are no attractive options in FA. Could the Redskins take a late round flyer in the draft for a punter?
Q4: With the new offseason set to begin on March 12, who could be released for cap savings purposes? BBQ provides a list. Provide your ideas on who should stay and who should go.
Answer:
Dezmon Briscoe. Had no impact in his one season here.
Cap savings: $630,000
Chris Chester. Looking like he will stay, but he could restructure.
Cap Savings: $1.9 million
Reed Doughty. A special teams ace and role player could be on the chopping block, but he has staying power it seems.
Cap savings: $1.375 Million
Brandon Meriweather. Health is the main issue here.
Cap savings: $1.3 million
Keiland Williams. Returning RBs makes him expendable.
Cap savings: $630,000
Tanard Jackson. Jackson came with a “buyer beware” tag and he chose to take that horrible path.
Cap Savings: $700,000
Q5: Which players could be candidates for restructuring contracts to save cap space? Also, which players do you believe deserve an extension – for cap savings and keeping them on the team?
Answer:
Stephen Bowen: 2013 Cap, $5.5 Million.
Chris Chester: 2013 Cap, $4.3 Million.
* Could be released with no cap hit. Candidate for release.
Barry Cofield: 2013 Cap, $6.3 Million.
London Fletcher: 2013 Cap, $6.2 Million.
Pierre Garcon: 2013 Cap, $8.2 Million.
Brandon Meriweather: 2013 Cap, $2.9 Million.
Josh Morgan: 2013 Cap, $5.1 Million.
Brian Orakpo: 2013 Cap, $5.1 Million.
Trent Williams: 2013 Cap, $8.0 Million.
Josh Wilson: 2013 Cap, $5.3 Million.
* Candidate for release.
These players are prime candidates for restructuring and extensions. BBQ would like to see extensions for Fletcher, Morgan, Orakpo, Williams, and Wilson. BBQ would like to see restructures for Bowen and Cofield. Meriweather taking a pay cut is preferable.
Q6: Which free agents from other teams could be targets of the Redskins?
Answer: There are some good prospects for the Redskins to consider – if they become available.
Tight End:
1. Brandon Myers – He catches a lot of passes, but lacks in blocking skills. He will be the target if Davis does not return.
Cornerback:
1. Greg Toler – Talented corner could shine in the 3-4 system.
2. E. J. Biggers – The Tampa Bay pipeline could continue if he wants to play for the old boss.
3. Kyle Arrington – He could be the real target and not Talib.
4. Antoine Cason – The Redskins seem to be genuinely interested.
5. Derek Cox – Another talented corner, but has a problem with staying healthy. If he can overcome the injury bug and high pay demands, then he rises to the top of the list.
6. Jacob Lacey – Progressed really well during the 2012 season.
Safety:
1. Corey Lynch – An underrated safety who would do well in Washington. Also a special teams ace.
2. Kenny Phillips – Would be the team’s first choice if he could stay healthy.
Q7: Who are the new free agents?
Phillip Merling
Ron Brace
Tony Pashos
That is all for this edition of BBQ. As the offseason continues, we will periodically take a look at the free agent situation.
The new NFL year begins today at 4 pm EDT. In this sixth installment of the offseason edition of BBQ, we give you our continuing analysis of free agency. Once again, the cap limitations that were placed on the Redskins in 2012 will affect them in 2013 as well. BBQ is going under the assumption that none of the money will be recovered and has taken a look at how the FA period could unfold. New developments in recent days have brought changes to the FA pool. Let’s take a look at the latest news and possibilities.
Q1: Who has been re-signed?
Kory Lichtensteiger
Rob Jackson
Darrel Young
Logan Paulsen
Nick Sundberg
Chris Baker
Santana Moss - restructure
Adam Carriker - restructure
Q2: Who has been released?
Jammal Brown (contract voided)
Brandon Banks
DeAngelo Hall
Q3: Who are the pending free agents for the Redskins and of those players, who should stay and who should walk?
Answer: Here is the list with suggestions. Feel free to give your thoughts on who should stay and who should go.
Quarterback: Rex Grossman – Walk. We have two capable QBs and a third prospect can be added in the late rounds of the draft or as an UDFA.
Tight End: Fred Davis – Keep. Will he recover from his Achilles injury in time for the new season? Are the Redskins looking for his replacement in the draft? This is now leaning to “Keep” based on reports that the team wants him to return.
Tackle: Tyler Polumbus – Keep. Obviously, Polumbus is not the long term answer at right tackle, but he is a reliable backup who can fill in when needed.
Tackle: Jordan Black – Walk. He saw little time on the field this season and was also suspended.
Safety: Madieu Williams – Walk. Simply put, he is a liability in all facets of the game and should not return.
Outside Linebacker: Chris Wilson – Walk. His contributions over the years are certainly appreciated, but it is time to move on.
Outside Linebacker: Lorenzo Alexander – Keep. The all-everything player should be a lock to stay – as it should be and it is not up for debate.
Cornerback: Cedric Griffin – Walk. Started the season poorly, but rebounded somewhat. Just the cost alone is enough to make the team look elsewhere.
Inside Linebacker: Bryan Kehl – Walk. Little to no impact at LB during the season makes him a free agent.
Punter: Sav Rocca – Keep. His production dropped dramatically in 2012, but there are no attractive options in FA. Could the Redskins take a late round flyer in the draft for a punter?
Q4: With the new offseason set to begin on March 12, who could be released for cap savings purposes? BBQ provides a list. Provide your ideas on who should stay and who should go.
Answer:
Dezmon Briscoe. Had no impact in his one season here.
Cap savings: $630,000
Chris Chester. Looking like he will stay, but he could restructure.
Cap Savings: $1.9 million
Reed Doughty. A special teams ace and role player could be on the chopping block, but he has staying power it seems.
Cap savings: $1.375 Million
Brandon Meriweather. Health is the main issue here.
Cap savings: $1.3 million
Keiland Williams. Returning RBs makes him expendable.
Cap savings: $630,000
Tanard Jackson. Jackson came with a “buyer beware” tag and he chose to take that horrible path.
Cap Savings: $700,000
Q5: Which players could be candidates for restructuring contracts to save cap space? Also, which players do you believe deserve an extension – for cap savings and keeping them on the team?
Answer:
Stephen Bowen: 2013 Cap, $5.5 Million.
Chris Chester: 2013 Cap, $4.3 Million.
* Could be released with no cap hit. Candidate for release.
Barry Cofield: 2013 Cap, $6.3 Million.
London Fletcher: 2013 Cap, $6.2 Million.
Pierre Garcon: 2013 Cap, $8.2 Million.
Brandon Meriweather: 2013 Cap, $2.9 Million.
Josh Morgan: 2013 Cap, $5.1 Million.
Brian Orakpo: 2013 Cap, $5.1 Million.
Trent Williams: 2013 Cap, $8.0 Million.
Josh Wilson: 2013 Cap, $5.3 Million.
* Candidate for release.
These players are prime candidates for restructuring and extensions. BBQ would like to see extensions for Fletcher, Morgan, Orakpo, Williams, and Wilson. BBQ would like to see restructures for Bowen and Cofield. Meriweather taking a pay cut is preferable.
Q6: Which free agents from other teams could be targets of the Redskins?
Answer: There are some good prospects for the Redskins to consider – if they become available.
Tight End:
1. Brandon Myers – He catches a lot of passes, but lacks in blocking skills. He will be the target if Davis does not return.
Cornerback:
1. Greg Toler – Talented corner could shine in the 3-4 system.
2. E. J. Biggers – The Tampa Bay pipeline could continue if he wants to play for the old boss.
3. Kyle Arrington – He could be the real target and not Talib.
4. Antoine Cason – The Redskins seem to be genuinely interested.
5. Derek Cox – Another talented corner, but has a problem with staying healthy. If he can overcome the injury bug and high pay demands, then he rises to the top of the list.
6. Jacob Lacey – Progressed really well during the 2012 season.
Safety:
1. Corey Lynch – An underrated safety who would do well in Washington. Also a special teams ace.
2. Kenny Phillips – Would be the team’s first choice if he could stay healthy.
Q7: Who are the new free agents?
Phillip Merling
Ron Brace
Tony Pashos
That is all for this edition of BBQ. As the offseason continues, we will periodically take a look at the free agent situation.
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Snydershrugged
The Franchise Player
per twitter David Elfin
Hearing that #Redskins have gained $2 million in cap space by restructuring WR Santana Moss' contract. Should be more than $3M under cap.
Hearing that #Redskins have gained $2 million in cap space by restructuring WR Santana Moss' contract. Should be more than $3M under cap.
Lanky Livingston
Guest
#Redskins apparently want to keep the team together. Could have saved about $8 million releasing Moss + Carriker, saved about half that.
https://twitter.com/Rich_TandlerCSN/status/311494081660477440
https://twitter.com/Rich_TandlerCSN/status/311494081660477440
BBQ entry for this morning has been updated.
Players becoming free agents today...
Alexander - A lot of competition for his services.
Banks - Farewell Mini Antwan Dancing El.
Black - Black will not be back.
Cooley - Hope you get a job in the FO soon.
Davis - We hardly knew ye. In fact, who are ye?
C.Griffin - Played more like Kathy Griffin.
Grossman - Doughnut shop is located at Dulles, Concourse Six.
Polumbus - No, he doesn't have a city in Ohio named after him.
M.Williams - Retirement communities in Florida await you - if you don't get lost.
C. Wilson - We hardly knew ye too.
Alexander - A lot of competition for his services.
Banks - Farewell Mini Antwan Dancing El.
Black - Black will not be back.
Cooley - Hope you get a job in the FO soon.
Davis - We hardly knew ye. In fact, who are ye?
C.Griffin - Played more like Kathy Griffin.
Grossman - Doughnut shop is located at Dulles, Concourse Six.
Polumbus - No, he doesn't have a city in Ohio named after him.
M.Williams - Retirement communities in Florida await you - if you don't get lost.
C. Wilson - We hardly knew ye too.
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Bulldog
The Legend
Trent Williams is the restructure this team needs to acquire a player or two in free agency.
Bulldog
The Legend
Alexander is a good guy but how much do you pay a 30 year old special teamer?
Especially when you are having issues finding your starting 22.
Especially when you are having issues finding your starting 22.
Jimbo
The Franchise Player
Deserving a decent contract is subjective. Are you talking about "starter" money or something simply in between backup and starter? Without the cap screwage I'm pretty sure the team would already have slightly "overpaid" him in order to keep those intangibles where they belong......in a Skins uni.
Unfortunately, I don't see us giving him what he feels he deserves unless we find a way to recoup cap money at the last minute. While he'd probably give us a bit of a hometown discount, re-signing him totally depends on the market. If the market is weak, we have a shot. I just hope he doesn't end up inside the division.
riggins44
The Franchise Player
Could not have said it better. He has done every thing the team has asked. He has played OL, DL, LB, Special Teams, and who knows what else. Not flashy, but very valuable.
Ax
Guest
I'd love to keep Zo. But if another team wants him as a starter, we won't be able to match them. He only starts here due to injury. Can't blame him if he wants to start. This will likely be his best shot, at his best contract.
Goaldeje
The Legend
We may look to so a significant amount of backloading on these contracts with some sort of cap friendly deal for this year. I don't really see any other way to make this work.
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