2025 Commanders Transactions Thread

[Voice_of_Reason]

For the vet minimum and little to no guarantees? There is basically no risk in this move, you can release him and it basically cost you nothing... if he is anything near what he was, it's a good move, if not? C'est la vie

I don't think it's "basically a no risk" move, it is ENTIRELY a no risk move.

He might not even make it to training camp.

 

[SkinsNumberOne]

I don't think it's "basically a no risk" move, it is ENTIRELY a no risk move.

He might not even make it to training camp.

I know it's a big team, the salary isn't high, and mistakes can/will be made. I also don't think this is a big deal.
However, I think the best teams are a little more careful to keep standards high. When standards are uniformly high, it helps set that team culture of excellence that you want to develop. Again, I don't think this is a big deal, but if you uniformly and steadfastly commit yourself to bringing the "best" pieces aboard, I think you have a much higher likelihood of getting, uniformly across the whole team, the "best" they have. If they see anything they can construe as a favor or someone getting an undeserved break, it can cause some issues.

To me, this is standard psychology. Again, this one move is not an issue, but ideally - hopefully he showed them something in the tryout and that's the main reason he is given the opportunity.

By the way, small point about Crowder, as far as I know he is not under contract. Also, entering his age 32 year and some injury concerns, I guess it's very possible he doesn't get an offer. So, it isn't really a competition right now, I think it's Gallup at least right now. As it stands, the deltas are:
- Olamide
- Crowder
+ Deebo
+ Gallup
^^ WR corps changes

 

[Baines]

I know it's a big team, the salary isn't high, and mistakes can/will be made. I also don't think this is a big deal.
However, I think the best teams are a little more careful to keep standards high. When standards are uniformly high, it helps set that team culture of excellence that you want to develop. Again, I don't think this is a big deal, but if you uniformly and steadfastly commit yourself to bringing the "best" pieces aboard, I think you have a much higher likelihood of getting, uniformly across the whole team, the "best" they have. If they see anything they can construe as a favor or someone getting an undeserved break, it can cause some issues.

To me, this is standard psychology. Again, this one move is not an issue, but ideally - hopefully he showed them something in the tryout and that's the main reason he is given the opportunity.

By the way, small point about Crowder, as far as I know he is not under contract. Also, entering his age 32 year and some injury concerns, I guess it's very possible he doesn't get an offer. So, it isn't really a competition right now, I think it's Gallup at least right now. As it stands, the deltas are:
- Olamide
- Crowder
+ Deebo
+ Gallup
^^ WR corps changes

We're bringing an 1k+ yard receiver under 30 years old on a vet min deal for a camp try out. That is probably the highest standard possible receiver for a vet min deal mate.

 

[NickyJ]

I think the Gallup contract would have been better if there had been terms in there stating that if Gallup doesn't get Super Bowl MVP this season, he pays back his whole contract with 10% interest.

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

I think the Gallup contract would have been better if there had been terms in there stating that if Gallup doesn't get Super Bowl MVP this season, he pays back his whole contract with 10% interest.

And issue a public apology on the national mall, retired and becomes a Tibetan monk contemplating the meaning of existence in a temple on a far away mountain secluded from the rest of human society.

 

[RandyHolt]

26 years old. 6'4. 333. Sounds good to me. I dont give a rats ass about his PFF since we don't even know if he was used to this strengths nor even if he has had great coaching the past 8 years.

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

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26 years old. 6'4. 333. Sounds good to me. I dont give a rats ass about his PFF since we don't even know if he was used to this strengths nor even if he has had great coaching the past 8 years.

I’ve heard on some podcast some version of “he’s better than you think.”

At the very least, he gives them more competition and a way to figure out what to do at RT and guard while Cosmi is out.

The only 2 positions we know for sure are set are Tunsil at LT and Biadacz at center. Cosmi is going to start the year on PUP.

I think there’s a 90% chance Coleman flops to RT, at least until he proves he can’t play RT.

With this signing they have Allegretti, Wylie and Herbig to figure out the guard spots. Absent drafting somebody.

And if Coleman absolutely can’t play RT, then Wylie stays there and you have Coleman, Allegretti and Herbig competing for the guard spots.

When Cosmi comes back, he gets plugged in and you have 2 really good backups.

And you still have Trent Scott banging around as your depth guy.

The biggest open question to me at the moment is backup center. Because Deiter was B-A-D when he played. So the next question is could they plug Herbig in as a starter and could Allegretti be the backup guard/center? He did the protection Cal’s for Dieter when he “played” and I use that term loosely because he mostly just snapped the ball badly snd fell over.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

I’ve heard on some podcast some version of “he’s better than you think.”

At the very least, he gives them more competition and a way to figure out what to do at RT and guard while Cosmi is out.

The only 2 positions we know for sure are set are Tunsil at LT and Biadacz at center. Cosmi is going to start the year on PUP.

I think there’s a 90% chance Coleman flops to RT, at least until he proves he can’t play RT.

With this signing they have Allegretti, Wylie and Herbig to figure out the guard spots. Absent drafting somebody.

And if Coleman absolutely can’t play RT, then Wylie stays there and you have Coleman, Allegretti and Herbig competing for the guard spots.

When Cosmi comes back, he gets plugged in and you have 2 really good backups.

And you still have Trent Scott banging around as your depth guy.

The biggest open question to me at the moment is backup center. Because Deiter was B-A-D when he played. So the next question is could they plug Herbig in as a starter and could Allegretti be the backup guard/center? He did the protection Cal’s for Dieter when he “played” and I use that term loosely because he mostly just snapped the ball badly snd fell over.

This is now an improved and much deeper OL. I think the Herbig signing spells the end for Dieter, at least we hope so. Ideally Coleman is an upgrade at RT and Wylie becomes your swing tackle. Herberg steps in seamlessly for Cosmi who was good but not great, and when Cosmi returns our depth just improved. I don't want to see Scott again but Paul played pretty damned well in a reserve role. So we will have a ton of guards which means if Coleman can do well at RT that would be much better than keeping Wylie there and Coleman moving to guard.

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

This is now an improved and much deeper OL. I think the Herbig signing spells the end for Dieter, at least we hope so. Ideally Coleman is an upgrade at RT and Wylie becomes your swing tackle. Herberg steps in seamlessly for Cosmi who was good but not great, and when Cosmi returns our depth just improved. I don't want to see Scott again but Paul played pretty damned well in a reserve role. So we will have a ton of guards which means if Coleman can do well at RT that would be much better than keeping Wylie there and Coleman moving to guard.

The open question after all of that is who plays backup center? But otherwise, I agree with you.

 

[Commander Wraith]

This is now an improved and much deeper OL. I think the Herbig signing spells the end for Dieter, at least we hope so. Ideally Coleman is an upgrade at RT and Wylie becomes your swing tackle. Herberg steps in seamlessly for Cosmi who was good but not great, and when Cosmi returns our depth just improved. I don't want to see Scott again but Paul played pretty damned well in a reserve role. So we will have a ton of guards which means if Coleman can do well at RT that would be much better than keeping Wylie there and Coleman moving to guard.

While Wylie is probably quite a bit better than Coleman in pass pro at this point, with Bates to that side, not being on Daniels’ blindside, typically against teams 2nd edge, it could be a great fit for Coleman, particularly with his (already) high level run blocking. Biadasz, Cosmi (once he’s back) and Coleman sounds like a heck of a right side in terms of the ground game.
OTOH, Coleman could be a stud G, and if he moved to LG, it’s likely far less of a transition for him, let alone being sandwiched between two high end vets to help him along. Essentially, I’m thinking it’s probably wide open at this point… and that’s not factoring (hopefully) a draft pick.

Voice_of_Reason - I’ve been a broken record for a while now in hoping we draft a G/C that can compete at G and provide high(er) end backup C capability. If Allegretti can handle that role though, I kind of like going the G/T route (like the Eagles seem to do regularly, though maybe that’s just my impression).

 

[Chris]

I wouldn’t sleep on Chris Paul being in the mix at guard. He played pretty darn well against Jalen Carter in the NFCCG.

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

While Wylie is probably quite a bit better than Coleman in pass pro at this point, with Bates to that side, not being on Daniels’ blindside, typically against teams 2nd edge, it could be a great fit for Coleman, particularly with his (already) high level run blocking. Biadasz, Cosmi (once he’s back) and Coleman sounds like a heck of a right side in terms of the ground game.
OTOH, Coleman could be a stud G, and if he moved to LG, it’s likely far less of a transition for him, let alone being sandwiched between two high end vets to help him along. Essentially, I’m thinking it’s probably wide open at this point… and that’s not factoring (hopefully) a draft pick.

Voice_of_Reason - I’ve been a broken record for a while now in hoping we draft a G/C that can compete at G and provide high(er) end backup C capability. If Allegretti can handle that role though, I kind of like going the G/T route (like the Eagles seem to do regularly, though maybe that’s just my impression).

I don't think we know how good Coleman can be on the right side yet. He didn't have a training camp last year, transitioned into LT, and played very "ok" most of the time. I think the season got long on him a bit, but he never folded.

I think with a full off-season at RT, he might be as good if not better than Wylie. I think he's a little more athletic.

I'd be shocked if we don't draft some OL somewhere. I think the kind of OL though will depend on the board and how the draft falls. I kindof think a G/C at this point is the more pressing need. But you can literally never have enough tackles.

And I'm operating in a world where Wylie is not back in 2026. So IF it's Tunsil and Coleman at the tackles, then you backup swing tackle is gone. Trent Scott is a good 3rd string guy, but not better than that. So, if you're going to move on from Wylie after this season, if you can get a guy who can at least be the backup swing tackle next year, that would be a good thing to do.

So either direction they go, I think it would make sense.

However, what they NEED more than anything is a plan at backup center. They have to figure out a way to make sure Deiter is not on the roster. He knows what he is supposed to do, but isn't actually able to do it. So they have to find a way to make sure he's never put in a position to actually attempt to do it, because he will fail.

As an aside, I said this for several years about Ryan Grant. If he's on your team, your WR room is bad. Is he ok? Yeah, he's ok. As your inactive 6th WR. Otherwise, he shouldn't be on an NFL roster. He's slow, didn't run good routes, and can't catch. So, find a way to make him not on the team. Jay kept screaming at me Ryan Grant was good and I kept trying to peek behind the lectern to see if he had a bottle of bourbon back there because every time he said it I thought he was drunk or stupid. I've settled on stupid, though.

The other player who I said this about was Reed Doughty. Dude was a gamer. And I actually liked the fact he overcame adversity and had a good NFL career. He did exactly what the coaches wanted all the time. The problem was, whenever there was a completion, you'd see Doughty about 2 yards away flailing at the ball because he didn't have the athletic ability to actually play. But he was a binky for all the crappy DCs we had after Gregg Williams left. And Allen/Shanahan weren't smart enough to figure out how to upgrade. He ended up being on the team from 2006 to 2013. Good for Reed. Boo to not figuring out how to have a safety who could play from 2008 - (maybe) 2024.

 

[Bulldog]

Deiter is not the answer to any question re the OL.

If Tyler gets dinged Washington likely can find a better player off the street.

 

[ClaretSkins]

The open question after all of that is who plays backup center? But otherwise, I agree with you.

I think I read Herbig was going to start at Center for the Steelers before getting hurt, so he's likely to take Dieter's role at a guess if he's cut. Even before the draft we seem to have a dearth of OL with at least some talent, and the competition for places and better depth can only be a good thing.

 

[Gooseneck]

I think I read Herbig was going to start at Center for the Steelers before getting hurt, so he's likely to take Dieter's role at a guess if he's cut. Even before the draft we seem to have a dearth of OL with at least some talent, and the competition for places and better depth can only be a good thing.

Correct; I think we are now set up very good for back up center

 

[Commander Wraith]

I don't think we know how good Coleman can be on the right side yet. He didn't have a training camp last year, transitioned into LT, and played very "ok" most of the time. I think the season got long on him a bit, but he never folded.

I think with a full off-season at RT, he might be as good if not better than Wylie. I think he's a little more athletic.

I'd be shocked if we don't draft some OL somewhere. I think the kind of OL though will depend on the board and how the draft falls. I kindof think a G/C at this point is the more pressing need. But you can literally never have enough tackles.

And I'm operating in a world where Wylie is not back in 2026. So IF it's Tunsil and Coleman at the tackles, then you backup swing tackle is gone. Trent Scott is a good 3rd string guy, but not better than that. So, if you're going to move on from Wylie after this season, if you can get a guy who can at least be the backup swing tackle next year, that would be a good thing to do.

So either direction they go, I think it would make sense.

However, what they NEED more than anything is a plan at backup center. They have to figure out a way to make sure Deiter is not on the roster. He knows what he is supposed to do, but isn't actually able to do it. So they have to find a way to make sure he's never put in a position to actually attempt to do it, because he will fail.

As an aside, I said this for several years about Ryan Grant. If he's on your team, your WR room is bad. Is he ok? Yeah, he's ok. As your inactive 6th WR. Otherwise, he shouldn't be on an NFL roster. He's slow, didn't run good routes, and can't catch. So, find a way to make him not on the team. Jay kept screaming at me Ryan Grant was good and I kept trying to peek behind the lectern to see if he had a bottle of bourbon back there because every time he said it I thought he was drunk or stupid. I've settled on stupid, though.

The other player who I said this about was Reed Doughty. Dude was a gamer. And I actually liked the fact he overcame adversity and had a good NFL career. He did exactly what the coaches wanted all the time. The problem was, whenever there was a completion, you'd see Doughty about 2 yards away flailing at the ball because he didn't have the athletic ability to actually play. But he was a binky for all the crappy DCs we had after Gregg Williams left. And Allen/Shanahan weren't smart enough to figure out how to upgrade. He ended up being on the team from 2006 to 2013. Good for Reed. Boo to not figuring out how to have a safety who could play from 2008 - (maybe) 2024.

Yeah, Coleman’s an unknown on the right. Obviously the demands on the position fit him a bit better than playing on the left, but who know how difficult that transition will be for him. I’m with you that I think he can outstrip Wylie eventually, but then you have to deal with the possibility that you’re playing the lesser (at the moment) player at RT for a period of time. Not ideal. But, maybe he takes to it quickly, or maybe they go the rotating T route again, we’ll see. I’d be pretty stoked if we wound up drafting a quality T who outright earned the job over Wylie in the offseason and we got Coleman as a heavy hitter inside. I guess I’d probably feel roughly the same about drafting a good G (even more so a G/C). Just, something, lol (hopefully something more than just a late round developmental guy).


As to your Doughty comments, I looked at him similarly to how I view Reaves now - valuable STer, but not a guy you want starting (and therefore not even as your next man up ideally).

I think I read Herbig was going to start at Center for the Steelers before getting hurt, so he's likely to take Dieter's role at a guess if he's cut. Even before the draft we seem to have a dearth of OL with at least some talent, and the competition for places and better depth can only be a good thing.

That’s good to know. At the very least, having legit competition for the backup C role is a step in the right direction. Kind of hopeful we get ourselves in a position to where Allegretti is in that mix as well.

 

[Commander Wraith]

I wouldn’t sleep on Chris Paul being in the mix at guard. He played pretty darn well against Jalen Carter in the NFCCG.

Good point. Of course it doesn’t give me the most confidence that they started Scott ahead of him and it’s Paul’s 4th year. Personally, I wouldn’t discount him, but I also wouldn’t let his presence affect my drafting.

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

Good point. Of course it doesn’t give me the most confidence that they started Scott ahead of him and it’s Paul’s 4th year. Personally, I wouldn’t discount him, but I also wouldn’t let his presence affect my drafting.

Agree. My memory of Chris Paul is that he’s not very athletic, doesn’t move well in space.

Might he be in the mix? Sure.

For anything other than the last OL spot? Probably not.

 

[Hail Raiser]

Herbig has played LG/C/RG in the NFL and played most if it with the Eagles, He;s such a great signing for us.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

The open question after all of that is who plays backup center? But otherwise, I agree with you.

Herbig slides to center, Paul to RG.