Capital Obsession: To The Draft!

[Elephant]

Ok, we agree on the facts. We're making progress here. Given those facts, and in his position, what would you do?

I gotta be honest, that amount of money would be incredible temptation and I cannot say I wouldn't take it. I would hope that, had I made a commitment, I would fulfill that commitment regardless of the carrot dangled in front of me. And I will also admit, I could be completely wrong in my assumption based on what I have seen. This kid's father, being the AD at WVU, could know something about Carolina that none of us knows and told his son to stay away.

The numbers are of course way different but I earned my degree at age 40 in hopes to get out of the line of work I was in before I went to school. I was making better money then, 6 years ago, than I am now. I could be well into management by now and possibly earning in the range of 80-100k a year. Now, I am partially employed with a piece of paper to add to my resumé. Did I make the wrong choice?

The difference between you and I is that you find it foolish that this young man turned down the quick money deal and I admire the kid for standing by his decision to stay. Again, it's all about perception. And I think we will have to agree to disagree.

 

[Hog Fever]

The difference between you and I is that you find it foolish that this young man turned down the quick money deal and I admire the kid for standing by his decision to stay. Again, it's all about perception. And I think we will have to agree to disagree.

It's not nearly that simple as you make it sound but yeah, we're not going to agree on this one.

 

[Lanky Livingston]

Anyone know the answer to my above ?

If teams dont lose the rights to a drafted, unsigned player because of a lockout, that would mean that if Luck came out and Carolina didn't sign him right away he'd spend a year with no football and no money.

I know normally an unsigned player goes back to the draft pool...

Is that the case in a lockout?
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He certainly wouldn't be able to play for Stanford again either way - so maybe that is his major concern at this point.

 

[KDawg]

He certainly wouldn't be able to play for Stanford again either way - so maybe that is his major concern at this point.

That was kind of the point I was driving at. Yeah.

If that's the case, and I was Luck, I think I would rather play football than not play football. *shrug*

 

[Lanky Livingston]

That was kind of the point I was driving at. Yeah.

If that's the case, and I was Luck, I think I would rather play football than not play football. *shrug*

Especially considering his family isn't exactly hurting for cash.

 

[Yusuf06]

peyton manning and ryan leaf were neck and neck when the draft came along until manning interviewed with the colts and they knew then who they would pick. nobody in SD knew whether they would get leaf or manning but they were going to be happy with either because they were both outstanding QBs.

Actually, there was a little more concern about Manning than perhaps you remember. There was a lot of talk about him not being able to win big games, being a "choker", etc. In retrospect, that certainly seems silly now, huh?

The huge disconnect between Manning and Leaf's respective draft ratings and their actual careers shows how much of a boom-bust pick a top 5 draft pick can be. Even so, assuming the Chargers didn't have any evidence that Leaf might not be all he was cracked up to be, they made the right choice in taking him where they did. A franchise QB is that important, and well worth the risk of a bust IF everything checks out.

It's not nearly that simple as you make it sound but yeah, we're not going to agree on this one.

Regarding Luck, I agree with your side of the argument. However perhaps Luck feels that he'd rather take the risk to avoid playing for the Panthers in particular. After all, some organizations that find themselves with a #1 pick are worse than others, or maybe he just doesn't like the area. I don't see the Panthers as being that type of organization but perhaps Luck does.

In the same situation, there's no question that my response would have been to start lining up financial advisors around November. However we're looking at this from the standpoint of mid-life corporate cogs for whom the thought of NFL glory is a much different thing than to a (possibly) idealistic academic. So while my own personal yardstick says I think he needs his head examined, I can't second guess the kid since he's got his own criteria to assess the situation. I'll just wish him the best of luck and hope we somehow manage to get a crack at him next year because he certainly looks like the real deal.

 

[Lanky Livingston]

Actually, there was a little more concern about Manning than perhaps you remember. There was a lot of talk about him not being able to win big games, being a "choker", etc. In retrospect, that certainly seems silly now, huh?

Interesting that you bring this up. I just saw a stat that Peyton is now 9-10 in playoff games after losing this weekend. Yes, he's won a superbowl, but with the offensive talent he's had through most of his career, he really should have more than one (and definitely should be above .500 in playoff games). Maybe there is a *little* something to that choker mantra.

Not to say I wouldn't give my right arm to turn back time and see him in a Redskins uniform for the past 10 years; just sayin.

 

[Goaldeje]

Peyton is an all time great, a frickin' general on the field. BUT, still chokes when it counts. Let's not forget he played against the immortal Rex Grossman in his only SB win (not trying to bring that argument to this thread, promise). Peyton is a hell of a player, and I too would have given some part of my anatomy to have him in a Skins uni over the last ten years, but he still chokes when you come down to it.

Having said that, he was brilliant this year. He took talent on par with the Redskins in a lot of positions to the playoffs. Not his fault this year they couldn't win it.

 

[Lanky Livingston]

Having said that, he was brilliant this year. He took talent on par with the Redskins in a lot of positions to the playoffs. Not his fault this year they couldn't win it.

Agreed - he was down to 3rd and 4th string WRs and TEs at points. Also that OL was never the same after they lost Glenn. Saturday is also past his prime.

 

[Rymanofthenorth]

I think its less about Peyton and more about the fact that the colts defence has never been exactly stellar. I think the Cots are not really that talented on defence and actually aside from peyton are not great on offence either, ffs they never have a great Oline or running game that is steady either.

 

[Rymanofthenorth]

Goalie is pretty smart sometimes. lol just read his post.

 

[fansince62]

I think its less about Peyton and more about the fact that the colts defence has never been exactly stellar. I think the Cots are not really that talented on defence and actually aside from peyton are not great on offence either, ffs they never have a great Oline or running game that is steady either.

my thought as well. that defense has been structured uni-demsionally: speed to protect a large lead. it's always been undersized.

bottom line: he has a lightening fast release and appears to make the right decision more often than not (often before the ball is even snapped).