The BBQ Thread

Are you smoking it fat side up or down?

I'm starting to think fat side up means better bark but fat side down yields a better smoke ring.
 
I go fat side down on the egg, just because the firebox sits directly below the brisket. And I've read there is actually not much impact on the final product going fat side up. But that discussion could start a civil war so I will tread lightly, lol...
 
Are you smoking it fat side up or down?

I'm starting to think fat side up means better bark but fat side down yields a better smoke ring.
I smoke fat-side down on WSM.
I think it helps it helps protect the flat, and yields a more tender result.

The bark is always set nicely and a nice smoke ring. Not aimed at you but, aside from competition BBQ, I don't think a smoke ring is that important, as long as it tastes good.
I feel the same about grill marks...they're pretty, but the caramelization = flavor, and I prefer a uniform crust, over some pretty grill marks. That said, Mrs. Skinsfans loves those cross-hatched grill marks, so I do that for her with chicken and steak. I don't compromise with pork..
 
Skirt steak from the other day, with those grill marks that Mrs Skinsfan loves so much.
Marinated it with equal parts balsamic & , Worcestershire, a couple Tbs of apple cider vinegar, lots of minced garlic & cracked pepper & a pinch of salt, for ~ 6 hours.

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Put my 12 lb brisket on the Egg last night with the Egg Genius set up and running. I have always had briskets finish way more quickly than I expected. I think, stupidly, it never occurred to me how much hotter the grill surface might be than the Egg thermometer is showing. I've probably been doing hot and fast unintentionally for years. I have had some dry ones as a result.

I am at a brisket temp of 157 this morning after about 9 hours. The Egg Genius graphs both the internal meat temp and the pit temp at the grill level which has been consistent all night long. I think this little device is going to be a game changer.
Interesting.
Is the temp difference because of a wonky thermometer?
In my kettles, the dome temp reads consistently 70° higher than the grate temp.
 
Chicken.
Recent posts by Boone inspired, (triggered?), this cook. :LOL:
Dry brined with kosher salt, uncovered in the fridge overnight, and some Kosmos Dirty Bird rub.
I tossed a chunk of apple wood on the coals for the smoke.
 

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Chicken.
Recent posts by Boone inspired, (triggered?), this cook. :LOL:
Dry brined with kosher salt, uncovered in the fridge overnight, and some Kosmos Dirty Bird rub.
I tossed a chunk of apple wood on the coals for the smoke.
I hope you enjoyed it!

I really prefer wet brinds with birds.
 
Doing something different today. I had a 'hankering' for some pulled pork but it was way too late to accomplish that meal given a pork shoulder can take 12 or more hours to be ready. I found a technique online where a guy 'butterflies' his pork shoulder before putting it in the smoker - basically splitting the shoulder in half along the line of the bone and then folding it in half so it looks like a beef tenderloin. I bought two 4 lb pieces and butterflied, covered with yellow mustard and hot sauce, and hit them with a garlic pork rub I like and some ground pepper. I will wrap them with some eastern NC BBQ sauce at 170 or so, gonna use foil since it works better with liquids and it's all going to get pulled anyway. I did heavily trim the pork before I prepped it knowing that there will be less time for fat to render.

The guy who came up with the technique says this is roughly a 5 hour cook.

I really like the idea - because obviously it can be done on the spur of the moment compared with having to plan to start the day before. It also seems like a no brainer - butterflying resulting in more surface area to take on more smoke, more rub, and form more bark (the bark is the best part of pulled pork in my opinion). We'll see how this comes out but I could see this becoming my go to method if it turns out as well as I think it might.
 
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Doing something different today. I had a 'hankering' for some pulled pork but it was way to late to accomplish that meal given a pork shoulder can take 12 or more hours to be ready. I found a technique online where a guy 'butterflies' his pork shoulder before putting it in the smoker - basically splitting the should in half along the line of the bone and then folding it in half so it looks like a beef tenderloin. I bought two 4 lb pieces and butterflied, covered with yellow mustard and hot sauce, and hit them with a garlic pork rub I like and some ground pepper. I will wrap them with some eastern NC BBQ sauce at 170 or so, gonna use foil since it works better with liquids and it's all going to get pulled anyway. I did heavily trim the pork before I prepped it knowing that there will be less time for fat to render.

The guy who came up with the technique says this is roughly a 5 hour cook.


I really like the idea - because obviously it can be done on the spur of the moment compared with having to plan to start the day before. It also seems like a no brainer - butterflying resulting in more surface area to take on more smoke, more rub, and form more bark (the bark is the best part of pulled pork in my opinion). We'll see how this comes out but I could see this becoming my go to method if it turns out as well as I think it migh
Interesting. I rarely smoke a shoulder that weighs more than 5 lbs. I buy larger roasts and have the butcher cut them in half. Faster cook and more bark. What temp to you smoke at? Pork shoulder is very forgiving and I shoot for 240-275 and have great results. Please share your results.
 
Does anyone ever smoke pork belly? What about venison or other game? I saw a video of a guy from Egypt who is down in Texas and smokes lamb. What about curing and smoking a whole leg of pork and making a ham?

I mostly see that you guys are smoking either brisket or pork shoulder. Get adventurous!!!
 
Really great lamb or venison is difficult to obtain without spending huge amounts of $$. I think that's the biggest barrier. I stumbled upon lamb ribs a few years ago and they were some of the most amazing ribs I have ever had. But your point is well taken. If beef and pork are amazing cured and smoked, why not other meats?

Challenge accepted :)
 
Does anyone ever smoke pork belly? What about venison or other game? I saw a video of a guy from Egypt who is down in Texas and smokes lamb. What about curing and smoking a whole leg of pork and making a ham?

I mostly see that you guys are smoking either brisket or pork shoulder. Get adventurous!!!
Yes, yes and yes...I'm an avid hunter, mainly whitetail deer, turkey, dove and, sometimes, grouse. As far as pork belly, I smoke, or cut it into thick strips and grill it. Sometimes I make burnt ends with it.
Game meat is usually very lean and dries out quickly.
I make jerky with venison, but never smoke it. It's just too lean and best served rare-to-medium rare.
When I make venison chili, I use ground, (that the butcher has blended with beef fat), and stew sized chunks, but I put a quick sear on them and add it later in the cook.
I usually bag a couple of deer, and give one to my Mom, and some to my sons. Thank God rifle season is around the corner, because I ate the last pack venison a couple weeks ago.
I've never considered smoking dove, because they're small, you only eat the breast, so you'd need a shit-ton of them and,(trust me on this) they are tough to hunt. Those little fuckers fly like bats.
It's also pretty delicate and easy to over-cook. The only way I eat it is pan-seared in bacon grease, medium-rare.
I don't cure meats, but will look to start doing that when I have more time. Mrs. Skinsfan won't eat lamb, so I'm not going to bother.
I cannot wait to retire to have more time in the field, and more time in the kitchen.🤘🤘
 
Yes, yes and yes...I'm an avid hunter, mainly whitetail deer, turkey, dove and, sometimes, grouse. As far as pork belly, I smoke, or cut it into thick strips and grill it. Sometimes I make burnt ends with it.
Game meat is usually very lean and dries out quickly.
I make jerky with venison, but never smoke it. It's just too lean and best served rare-to-medium rare.
When I make venison chili, I use ground, (that the butcher has blended with beef fat), and stew sized chunks, but I put a quick sear on them and add it later in the cook.
I usually bag a couple of deer, and give one to my Mom, and some to my sons. Thank God rifle season is around the corner, because I ate the last pack venison a couple weeks ago.
I've never considered smoking dove, because they're small, you only eat the breast, so you'd need a shit-ton of them and,(trust me on this) they are tough to hunt. Those little fuckers fly like bats.
It's also pretty delicate and easy to over-cook. The only way I eat it is pan-seared in bacon grease, medium-rare.
I don't cure meats, but will look to start doing that when I have more time. Mrs. Skinsfan won't eat lamb, so I'm not going to bother.
I cannot wait to retire to have more time in the field, and more time in the kitchen.🤘🤘
Hint, wrap lean meat, like venison, with bacon or other pork fat

Re venison chili, I used to use pork sausage to augment

Small game birds? I get it. MR to Medium for the breasts
 
Really great lamb or venison is difficult to obtain without spending huge amounts of $$. I think that's the biggest barrier. I stumbled upon lamb ribs a few years ago and they were some of the most amazing ribs I have ever had. But your point is well taken. If beef and pork are amazing cured and smoked, why not other meats?

Challenge accepted :)
I'm hoping to post pics of this guy in the BBQ thread. ;)
Hint, wrap lean meat, like venison, with bacon or other pork fat

Re venison chili, I used to use pork sausage to augment

Small game birds? I get it. MR to Medium for the breasts
I only want to taste the venison, not pork. Never been a fan of bacon wrapped anything, except scallops and a few appetizers...
 
I only want to taste the venison, not pork. Never been a fan of bacon wrapped anything, except scallops and a few appetizers...
Or just use pure sliced beef or pork fat... It's not about influencing the flavor it's about protecting the lean meat

You contradict yourself with the scallop statement
 

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