The 2025 Draft Thread

I like Tuten a lot and he fits a need perfectly. I'm torn on Sawyer. Great NFL name and his production can not be over looked. Dudes like that production seems to be one of the only things that translates. Then NFL is oddly cerebral and that can't be overlooked.

It's more important than physical gifts. I hate sounding like what's his drunk name, even if I really am, but football players are gonna play football.
 
The Eagles have 12 picks, 5 in the top 100, their offense signed until 2029, 6 super star defenders on rookie contracts and are the 3rd youngest team.

We're trading picks for injured old names and hoping to hang. Tunsil, Deebo, Lattimore are good. I get that.

I liked the draft last year and FA and I like a lot of what we did this year, but it's reactionary. I'm still "I believe in AP" and all, but I'm disappointed so far over all. We're building like a team who wants to make the playoffs. Not win superbowls (plural)

Just talking aloud but I get the Snyder era fear of we're relying too heavily on FA's to fill out the roster perspective. I've read on a few occasions how some feel Lattimore's likely cooked at this stage and may have to switch positions - we'll see. It seems plausible that Deebo & Tunsil can still provide value for the next 2-3 years. I hope we can trade down but Captain Obvious says you need to build the foundation of your team with the draft. We're not there IMO. I think Chris Rodriguez needs more snaps too.
 
Just talking aloud but I get the Snyder era fear of we're relying too heavily on FA's to fill out the roster perspective. I've read on a few occasions how some feel Lattimore's likely cooked at this stage and may have to switch positions - we'll see. It seems plausible that Deebo & Tunsil can still provide value for the next 2-3 years. I hope we can trade down but Captain Obvious says you need to build the foundation of your team with the draft. We're not there IMO. I think Chris Rodriguez needs more snaps too.
We have no talent and half our money will go to JD in a few years. Trading picks is going to cost us big. Sure, we should be good again this year and maybe go to the championship game, but we're crowning AP like he's Howie, while Howie is running the NFL.
 
The Eagles have 12 picks, 5 in the top 100, their offense signed until 2029, 6 super star defenders on rookie contracts and are the 3rd youngest team.

We're trading picks for injured old names and hoping to hang. Tunsil, Deebo, Lattimore are good. I get that.

I liked the draft last year and FA and I like a lot of what we did this year, but it's reactionary. I'm still "I believe in AP" and all, but I'm disappointed so far over all. We're building like a team who wants to make the playoffs. Not win superbowls (plural)
AP inherited a team mostly devoid of talent with a lot of holes to fill. Give him time
 
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AP inherited a team mostly devoid of talent with a lot of wholes to fill. Give him time
Bro, I get that amd it's great to be competitive and go to the championship game and all. I'm just feeling like it's a short term win.

As far as Harris, I'm a 6ers fan.
 
We have no talent and half our money will go to JD in a few years. Trading picks is going to cost us big. Sure, we should be good again this year and maybe go to the championship game, but we're crowning AP like he's Howie, while Howie is running the NFL.
AP deserves a crown. He and Quinn went from zero to 60 in 17 games.

Great free agent class. Great draft class. Great shedding of dead weight and most of the Snyder culture by cutting/not re-signing the majority of the 23 roster.

Now, I actually agree with you that I hate losing so many draft picks, but it's a really weird year in that it's supposed to be both a weak draft class and a weak free agency class so maybe this was the year to trade away picks plus if Peters is and the entirety of the NFL is right that Tunsil is a top three left tackler then getting Daniels his body guard is worth the cost.But yes, it would have been nice if we had a ton of top 100 picks like we did last year, but that's not realistic. When you're poor, it's harder to get rich. Peters does have to invest. I bet if you cornered him he'd probably admit he wouldn't want to rely on so many one-year contracts and didn't want to trade away so many picks, but that he felt this was the only way to get elite talent to the team.

Regardless, I'm fine with crowning Peters. I'm sure Adam Peters is well aware though that the crowd that crowns him will be happy to take up pitchforks and dethrone him if he fails as steward of the kingdom.
 
wrong jewelry. we do rings.
Not for a very long time.

But yeah, I want a ring to. RInging Peters sounds much different than crowning him. So far, I have no interest in wringing Peter's neck.
 
I'm mixed on the trades. Didn't really want Deebo, but I can get behind him for a fifth. I don't see him as an "injured" player. Likewise, is Tunsil "injured?" I haven't really heard much about that. You have a point with Lattimore.

But I can't imagine how negative you would have been if you had been a 49ers fan when they traded for Trent Williams. Williams really was an oft injured player. Missed a several games every single year, older than Tunsil when he was traded, etc.
 
It's absolutely bizarre to be so resolutely against what this FO is doing at this point. Reservations because it's not intuitive to you, sure, that's plenty fair. The certainty is buck wild.
 
I'm mixed on the trades. Didn't really want Deebo, but I can get behind him for a fifth. I don't see him as an "injured" player. Likewise, is Tunsil "injured?" I haven't really heard much about that. You have a point with Lattimore.

I heard on a podcast or YouTube clip - don't recall, but the issues with Tunsil is attitude more than anything else. The hosts were saying that Houston had arguably the worst performing OL last season and Tunsil was their best OL by far. They said the team felt as if Tunsil were too problematic and decided to ship him off. This is a strong locker room and FO, and coach wise so that may help mitigate problems should they arise but it is concerning. That'd be my red line with players if the decision making were left to me:

The diva - eff everyone else mentality, which I cannot stand and any incidents that involve violence 99.9 percent of the time.
 
Meh dysfunction breeds dysfunction. You put a 5x Pro Bowler next to a scrub and on a line that couldn't block it's way out of a paper bag, and tempers are gonna flare. I get that players are expected to be good soldiers and line up and put the fries in the bag so to speak, but it feels a little hypocritical for the shock jocks to be making a big deal out the Texans offensive line being poor and now getting worse, and then simultaneously be concerned that a leader on the team is basically voicing those same concerns internally.
 
The Eagles have 12 picks, 5 in the top 100, their offense signed until 2029, 6 super star defenders on rookie contracts and are the 3rd youngest team.

We're trading picks for injured old names and hoping to hang. Tunsil, Deebo, Lattimore are good. I get that.

I liked the draft last year and FA and I like a lot of what we did this year, but it's reactionary. I'm still "I believe in AP" and all, but I'm disappointed so far over all. We're building like a team who wants to make the playoffs. Not win superbowls (plural)

I totally get where you are coming from. The thing is, I think it’s unlikely that we even make the NFC Championship game again without majorly upgrading the roster this season.

I feel like what’s happening this year is a necessary compromise, partially because JD5 was so much better, so much faster, than you could reasonable expect, and partially because Ron left the cupboard so bare. Honestly, I’d still like to see us trade for Hendrickson.

Assuming Lattimore returns roughly to form; and he’s not even 29 yet, a defense with Hendrickson, Payne, Newton, Lattimore, Luvu, Wagner, and Sainristil should be a top 10 unit.

And on offense, assuming we upgrade at RB, we should be able to more consistently perform on a down to down basis, without needing JD5 heroics every game.

Tunsil is a top 3 pass blocking LT, has been super healthy, and doesn’t turn 31 until august. He should be really good for at least 3 years. Hendrickson isn’t going to be 31 until December and has also been super healthy.

Deebo could be a 1 year rental, but only cost a 5th. Latinos was a little more expensive, but if we get a couple years of 90% of he New Orleans Lattimore, it will have been worth it.

This looks like we are loading up to try to be Super Bowl contenders immediately, with stars that will be at or near their peaks until we have to extend Jayden.

I fully expect for us to return to leaning much more heavily on the draft starting next year.
 
I don't think we are going to go too deep in the playoffs this year
 
I totally get where you are coming from. The thing is, I think it’s unlikely that we even make the NFC Championship game again without majorly upgrading the roster this season.

I feel like what’s happening this year is a necessary compromise, partially because JD5 was so much better, so much faster, than you could reasonable expect, and partially because Ron left the cupboard so bare. Honestly, I’d still like to see us trade for Hendrickson.

Assuming Lattimore returns roughly to form; and he’s not even 29 yet, a defense with Hendrickson, Payne, Newton, Lattimore, Luvu, Wagner, and Sainristil should be a top 10 unit.

And on offense, assuming we upgrade at RB, we should be able to more consistently perform on a down to down basis, without needing JD5 heroics every game.

Tunsil is a top 3 pass blocking LT, has been super healthy, and doesn’t turn 31 until august. He should be really good for at least 3 years. Hendrickson isn’t going to be 31 until December and has also been super healthy.

Deebo could be a 1 year rental, but only cost a 5th. Latinos was a little more expensive, but if we get a couple years of 90% of he New Orleans Lattimore, it will have been worth it.

This looks like we are loading up to try to be Super Bowl contenders immediately, with stars that will be at or near their peaks until we have to extend Jayden.

I fully expect for us to return to leaning much more heavily on the draft starting next year.
We're not getting Henderson and it could be a very good defense.
 
We're not getting Henderson and it could be a very good defense.

I’m less sure, but I agree that it could be very good. My point wasn’t that we are getting him. It was, that even with one more similar trade, I still wouldn’t hate it.

Getting back to the draft, maybe this is ridiculous, but I still think it would be sick if Josh Simmons fell to us. That could be a top 3 OL in the league, but the bookend tackles for 3 years and a built in succession plan at LT.
 
I’m less sure, but I agree that it could be very good. My point wasn’t that we are getting him. It was, that even with one more similar trade, I still wouldn’t hate it.

Getting back to the draft, maybe this is ridiculous, but I still think it would be sick if Josh Simmons fell to us. That could be a top 3 OL in the league, but the bookend tackles for 3 years and a built in succession plan at LT.
Simmons would be great if he's able to really play again. If he can, he'll go early.

No team trades draft picks away and stays good. That's my point.

It's thee worst way to build a team.

Eagles traded a first for Smith, when they had 3 1rsts and he was Hurts best friend. Chiefs let Hill go. Detroit built through the draft and then had a wacky draft year taking RB and TE early.

Tunsil, Latt and Deebo definitely make us better this year if they play, but we're losing our future.

I also have to remind myself that our FO might be years ahead of anyone else because of how Harris likes to be analytical and think outside the box. However, his 76ers experiment is a disaster and frustrating embarrassment. I hate the Devils, so I don't care how they're doing.

I'm not out on this team or the FO or anything. I'm not. I'm just shocked by how this offseason has gone and I think we could have done a lot better and added picks instead of losing them.

Eagles are the SB winner, (lol they absolute smoked those asshole thinking they were entitled to a 3peat) so they'll get mocked up. I get the strong lines, run game, defense that can cover and get pressure without blitzing. That's the dream. But they have a ton of top 100 picks. we have what? 2 or 3 this year? I get the rookie phenom and his contract thing, but it still doesn't matter if you can't pack talent.

We can't pack talent now, because of those three. We have to hope they have probowl years and other random guys step up out of nowhere, but that's just for one year.

I'm not gonna judge AP for about 5 years and I'll give him all the respect, but I don't see how we're building a sustainable winner, unless JD is better than the next TB15.
 
Simmons would be great if he's able to really play again. If he can, he'll go early.

No team trades draft picks away and stays good. That's my point.

It's thee worst way to build a team.

Eagles traded a first for Smith, when they had 3 1rsts and he was Hurts best friend. Chiefs let Hill go. Detroit built through the draft and then had a wacky draft year taking RB and TE early.

I'm not out on this team or the FO or anything. I'm not. I'm just shocked by how this offseason has gone and I think we could have done a lot better and added picks instead of losing them.

I don’t want it to sound like I fervently disagree with you. It bothers me a little too. But, the 49’ers traded a 2nd, two 3rds, a 4th and a 5th for Trent Williams and Christian Mccaffrey, and stayed good for a really long time, even without having an elite QB. That’s about the same amount of draft capital that we’ve traded.

The Rams barely had any picks at all for years. They traded two 1sts, and a 4th for Jalen Ramsey, and have won 10 games in 5 out of 6 seasons since that trade, and have won a Super Bowl. That’s way more draft capital than we gave away.

I think there are multiple ways to skin a cat. Would I prefer a young team where we’d filled up on home grown draft talent? Of course. Ron ruined that. AP is trying to compensate, and it’s not an easy position to have been put in.

Drafting 29th this year, I just don’t think you could reasonably expect to bridge the roster talent gap between us and the Lions and the Eagles enough to reasonably expect to compete for a B the next couple of years.

A lot of us really thought the team punched above its weight last year, and that without a roster upgrade, that we wouldn’t be likely to get as far this year. And it looks like AP felt the same way.
 

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