The 2025 Free Agency Thread

Yeah I recall last year both you and I were really high on Bobby Wagner as a potential signing even though it didn't feel sexy because of his age.

Calais Campbell, granted an even older player, to me is this version of that. Not sexy. Might feel to some like a yawn signing. But like Bobby he's still very good. And he's a leader on steroids -- even more famous for leading than Bobby. So he fits the build a culture theme.

They have a SB window here. In the past, I was more lukewarm about older player signings. Now, I am in on the right signing regardless of age.

D. Lawrence might be more apples to apples to the Wagner signing -- similar age, etc. A signing that I don't think moves the needle as to excitement with fans. But also he's another dude who has had a great career and can make an impact here.

Both moves would feel a bit full circle for this FO. With Calais we skipped on him in that draft -- and all of the guys we took instead busted and have been out of the league forever while Calais keeps going strong. Going way back to that Zorn era. D. Lawrence we skipped over for a trade with Dallas so they can take him so we can instead get Trent Murphy and change. Brings home how awful the previous regimes were at drafting. Who would think Ron would be the worst of them all?

Peters off to a great start. FA was awesome last year. Draft looks good. Not every pick will pan out but that's the same for every FO.
Agreed. Neither move moves the needle and probably gets criticized by fans and media a bit, but both moves are big improvements to a team that couldn't stop the run to save their lives last year. I don't care if they call us the over the hill gang again. ols. Hell, go grab Slay, too. Having vets like that to practice against would be gold for JD5.

Trent Murphy lol. So many names popping up that I never wanted to hear again. We really were such a bad franchise for 30 years. Hard to believe we could have a top 5 franchise FO and GM.
 
Generally, I’d prefer the team buy low rather than buy high (such as Dayo or Sweat), and I like the idea of continuing (mostly) short term deals as we build through the draft.

I’m not against re-signing Fowler and Chinn - it’s good to reward your own - but the above point (along with wondering if we could upgrade at both spots and the draft options on the edge) makes me hesitate.
 
Darius Slay anyone? Seems odd that the Eagles would release him unless he was due some large signing bonus in his contract. I thought he was pretty consistently good last year. What scares me is they are making room in their cap for signing Myles Garrett. Such a Roseman thing to do.
 
Generally, I’d prefer the team buy low rather than buy high (such as Dayo or Sweat), and I like the idea of continuing (mostly) short term deals as we build through the draft.

I’m not against re-signing Fowler and Chinn - it’s good to reward your own - but the above point (along with wondering if we could upgrade at both spots and the draft options on the edge) makes me hesitate.
I'd argue that 20 per for either is buying low, or at least fair. Especially after seeing Crosby get twice that.
 
I'd argue that 20 per for either is buying low, or at least fair. Especially after seeing Crosby get twice that.
I hear you. I’ll say that while it’s hard to compare contracts these days with guaranteed money and void years, at least APY-wise, that’d put them about top 10-12 for edge rushers. Not saying either would be a bad move though.

What I’m really talking about is the philosophy - getting Samuel for a 5th, getting Chinn cheaply last year - essentially targeting guys that are (potentially) due for a bounce back year. And wrapped up with that of course are the short term deals that mitigate risk.
Which brings up a second “philosophy” - filling out the roster with quality, cheaper stop gaps that allow us to develop young guys - ie building through the draft. Of course, that’s not to say we should avoid quality FAs with longer deals (ala Biadacz/Luvu), so I’m not inherently opposed to Sweat/Dayo type signings. I’ll trust the FO to balance it all out no matter which way we go.
 
Has anyone heard rumors on Brandon Aiyuk? I thought I saw something about Quinn being spotted with him on social media but maybe that wasn’t real?
 
I hear you. I’ll say that while it’s hard to compare contracts these days with guaranteed money and void years, at least APY-wise, that’d put them about top 10-12 for edge rushers. Not saying either would be a bad move though.

What I’m really talking about is the philosophy - getting Samuel for a 5th, getting Chinn cheaply last year - essentially targeting guys that are (potentially) due for a bounce back year. And wrapped up with that of course are the short term deals that mitigate risk.
Which brings up a second “philosophy” - filling out the roster with quality, cheaper stop gaps that allow us to develop young guys - ie building through the draft. Of course, that’s not to say we should avoid quality FAs with longer deals (ala Biadacz/Luvu), so I’m not inherently opposed to Sweat/Dayo type signings. I’ll trust the FO to balance it all out no matter which way we go.
Parsons and Garret are getting contracts next year that will make Crosby seem cheap and 20py won't be close to top 12 anymore.

The way we handled FA last year was masterful and I'm guessing we do something similar this year. There are a few of the OYD guys from last year I'd like back. Heck, most of them honestly.

I guess it depends on how you view last season. Was that a fluke or are we thinking we're there and it's time to go after the big sharks in FA (which I think Sweat is, while Dayo isn't there yet) or keep picking at FA with the OY small fish, while building through the draft.
 
I am surprised he named Zaccheus as being brought back right away like that. Noah seems an obvious resigning that I hope comes before March 12.

It sounds like Slayton is beginning to get more buzz which stinks because he'd be a great fit. How strong is the Kirk/Kliff connection? We will soon find out.

I expect to hear of the expected Ertz signing any day now.

I see Bates and Dyami getting paid big in FA, they are receiving buzz.

Any mention on the OL by chance?

Slayton is starting to feel like another Giant FA that I and some others wanted last year, McKinney. That is, plenty of others are buying the same narrative so they might command more money than we think because of a competitive market.
 
Parsons and Garret are getting contracts next year that will make Crosby seem cheap and 20py won't be close to top 12 anymore.

The way we handled FA last year was masterful and I'm guessing we do something similar this year. There are a few of the OYD guys from last year I'd like back. Heck, most of them honestly.

I guess it depends on how you view last season. Was that a fluke or are we thinking we're there and it's time to go after the big sharks in FA (which I think Sweat is, while Dayo isn't there yet) or keep picking at FA with the OY small fish, while building through the draft.

Listening to local reporters it seems like that's the prevailing thought -- lot of signings but without hitting top of the market ones.
 
Me too. I think i would rather sign Sweat instead of trading for Garrett. Garrett is by far the better player. But i would prefer to keep our two first rounders.
Yeah, me too. If I sold out for anyone it would be Carter at #2 in the draft and 5 year rookie deal.

Sweat it's just going to come down to the actual money. I'm sure some team out there is going to pay him like he's the next Garrett and it's not us.
 
Slayton is starting to feel like another Giant FA that I and some others wanted last year, McKinney. That is, plenty of others are buying the same narrative so they might command more money than we think because of a competitive market.
McKinney is a top 3 safety and would have been an awesome signing.
 
Listening to local reporters it seems like that's the prevailing thought -- lot of signings but without hitting top of the market ones.
I think last year was a bit fluky personally. Kind of like the Texans 2 seasons ago. I don't know if we have a fall off like they did or if we're competing for the SB again.

VoR made the point about us losing Terry our season ends and that happened to them this year with Collins.
 
I think last year was a bit fluky personally. Kind of like the Texans 2 seasons ago. I don't know if we have a fall off like they did or if we're competing for the SB again.

VoR made the point about us losing Terry our season ends and that happened to them this year with Collins.

Texans for their "down" 2024 season, won 10 games, trounced their opponent in the wild card game, and arguably lost because of a few bad ref calls against the Chiefs on the road.

The schedule looks tougher but lol don't get VOR started on that considering he thinks there is no such thing before the season starts. That's really my only concern.

I was one of the rare love Jayden AND Maye people before that draft. Loved them both on the past thread. And spent a lot of time arguing on Jayden's behalf on that QB thread especially in those last few weeks before the draft. I was in on him also during the college season. Still, I never envisioned he would be THIS good.

As we used to talk about on the old QB threads, there are some variables we can't know until it plays out. The key one is the personality, drive and work ethic of the QB and how well they see the field. From all indications Jayden is an A plus on all fronts. Super star. Sky's the limit. And what a clutch gene. wow.

Heck we even have national reporters projecting Washington to the SB next year with the narrative that we will be talking about who is better Jayden or Mahomes?

We hit the lottery and big time with Jayden. He carried the team on his back last year. When they had to win at the end of the season and in the playoffs -- the running game was basically nonexistent. we lost our #2 WR. The defense couldn't stop anyone. Yet Jayden carried them.

Only way I see a regression is if Peters unlike last year bombs this off season and Jayden takes an unexpected step back.
 
Texans for their "down" 2024 season, won 10 games, trounced their opponent in the wild card game, and arguably lost because of a few bad ref calls against the Chiefs on the road.

The schedule looks tougher but lol don't get VOR started on that considering he thinks there is no such thing before the season starts. That's really my only concern.

I was one of the rare love Jayden AND Maye people before that draft. Loved them both on the past thread. And spent a lot of time arguing on Jayden's behalf on that QB thread especially in those last few weeks before the draft. I was in on him also during the college season. Still, I never envisioned he would be THIS good.

As we used to talk about on the old QB threads, there are some variables we can't know until it plays out. The key one is the personality, drive and work ethic of the QB and how well they see the field. From all indications Jayden is an A plus on all fronts. Super star. Sky's the limit. And what a clutch gene. wow.

Heck we even have national reporters projecting Washington to the SB next year with the narrative that we will be talking about who is better Jayden or Mahomes?

We hit the lottery and big time with Jayden. He carried the team on his back last year. When they had to win at the end of the season and in the playoffs -- the running game was basically nonexistent. we lost our #2 WR. The defense couldn't stop anyone. Yet Jayden carried them.

Only way I see a regression is if Peters unlike last year bombs this off season and Jayden takes an unexpected step back.
I agree with all of it. JD being a homerun, VoR and that annoying "you can't know" argument and I guess that's true about the Texans. That wasn't much of a drop off.
 

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