Burner's Burning Questions: Free Agency, Mocks, Camps, OTAs, Roster Predictions, 2020

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Burgundy Burner said:
People need to be careful about labeling Burrow, Young, or Judge as being the next best thing.

I can recall a recent edge from Ohio St. that was a can't miss prospect - Vernon Gholston. Or how about Tony Mandarich? Heath Schuler? Charles Rogers? Ryan Leaf? Brian Bosworth? Johnny Manziel?

Be careful what you wish for. It could actually come true and put a major hurt on your favorite team.
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I am definitely in your camp.
I actually do not want Young, because my gut and my observations are telling me that he is way over-hyped, and is not going to come even close to what they're rating him.
I was just being like a messenger with the Young tweets. I definitely do not share in Haskins', Guice's, the media's, and majority of fans' excitement about him.
 
Burner's Burning Questions: Free Agency, Mocks, Camps, OTAs, Roster Predictions, 2020

Fear The Spear said:
For that reason, I don't see any way that Cincy passes on him, and pin their hopes on Ryan Finley
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The more likely scenario (although they might believe Finley can be the guy) is that they trade down to someone who wants to pick Chase Young.

You just never know. If their GM decides they have too many needs and goes onto full on rebuild mode, they may feel like getting a bevy of picks is their best bet.


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Burgundy Burner said:
People need to be careful about labeling Burrow, Young, or Judge as being the next best thing.

I can recall a recent edge from Ohio St. that was a can't miss prospect - Vernon Gholston. Or how about Tony Mandarich? Heath Schuler? Charles Rogers? Ryan Leaf? Brian Bosworth? Johnny Manziel?

Be careful what you wish for. It could actually come true and put a major hurt on your favorite team.
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Of course that's true. But all you can do is hope your talent evaluators and decision makers get it right. I'm just suggesting that Rivera has nothing vested in Haskins. If he views him as a project or thinks his ceiling is limited or that he doesn't have the leadership traits he is looking for, I could see us going a different direction if he sees someone in the draft he believes is the real deal.


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That's what I am trying to say.

If the Bengals go elsewhere at #1 , we step in and take Burrow with a smile.
 
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Haskins needs to shut his pie-hole. I'm already getting tired of him. You're a rookie QB. No one gives one shit who you want as coaches or teammates.


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Bulldog. You have the best 20/20 hindsight of anyone I've ever seen. It's easy to call a bust AFTER they have busted. Very easy. I've been at this a long time and I recall the hype and intangibles of each player I listed. You missed it by a wide margin.

Shuler held out and missed most of TC - it hurt him until his final days in the league. Manziel has a lot of talent, but very little upstairs.
 
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Also, Bulldog. I agree with the vast majority of your analyses. We can agree to disagree on the scouting reports of Shuler and Manziel.
 
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Boone said:
Of course that's true. But all you can do is hope your talent evaluators and decision makers get it right. I'm just suggesting that Rivera has nothing vested in Haskins. If he views him as a project or thinks his ceiling is limited or that he doesn't have the leadership traits he is looking for, I could see us going a different direction if he sees someone in the draft he believes is the real deal.


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I'd be more inclined to trade down, Miami has 3 1st round picks and have pretty much given up on Rosen. I might take Tua there, but am tired of drafting players who cannot walk, with the hope we get value from it.

Not sure I'd want Burrow at 2. Then we lose the value of the pick by taking 1 starter as opposed to 2 or 3, and causing QB controversy...that is unless they can get Haskins out of the building ASAP.

Burgundy Burner said:
Bulldog. You have the best 20/20 hindsight of anyone I've ever seen. It's easy to call a bust AFTER they have busted. Very easy.
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Better than me? :laugh:
 
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BB do you think we will see Trent Williams back?
 
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riggins44 said:
BB do you think we will see Trent Williams back?
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I don't think anyone really knows. 50-50? My gut says probably not, but no one seems to have a clue.
 
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First page, second post. Coaching staff update.

Also, why has no one rated this thread??? I mean, it's tradition! :biggrin:
 
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Burgundy Burner said:
First page, second post. Coaching staff update.

Also, why has no one rated this thread??? I mean, it's tradition! :biggrin:
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There ya go buddy, just for you :)
 
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Sign FA Tom Brady for 1 or 2 years.
Then draft Tua at #2 , then we're set for decades, starting THIS year :p
 
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Fear The Spear said:
Sign FA Tom Brady for 1 or 2 years.
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Might want to bring in the hoodie as well.

Or tell Tom to get copies of his video collection.
 
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Assuming we go with Young with our 1st pick our starter LT will have to come from FA. Maybe a 3rd rounder could sit for a year and step in for 2021

Some of these guys will probably be tagged or resigned but there's a few interesting candidates out there. These two jump out because they're young and under 30

LT-Greg Robinson from the browns, 6 yrs in league, 27 years old, 6' 5" 330 lbs

LT-DJ Humphries from the cardinals, 5 years in league, 26 years old, 6" 5" 307 lbs

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/left-tackle/
 
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Win4us said:
Assuming we go with Young with our 1st pick our starter LT will have to come from FA. Maybe a 3rd rounder could sit for a year and step in for 2021

Some of these guys will probably be tagged or resigned but there's a few interesting candidates out there. These two jump out because they're young and under 30

LT-Greg Robinson from the browns, 6 yrs in league, 27 years old, 6' 5" 330 lbs

LT-DJ Humphries from the cardinals, 5 years in league, 26 years old, 6" 5" 307 lbs

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/left-tackle/
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For 20 years we've done the right thing at LT...draft one with our premium draft location. I admit that none of the LT's in this draft are #2 worthy, but I would rather Trent find his way back for 2 more seasons than deal with a FA from another team...Trent at 31 is still the best option of veterans that we have.
 
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Elephant said:
For 20 years we've done the right thing at LT...draft one with our premium draft location. I admit that none of the LT's in this draft are #2 worthy, but I would rather Trent find his way back for 2 more seasons than deal with a FA from another team...Trent at 31 is still the best option of veterans that we have.
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I think it all comes down to what Rivera meant by changing the culture. If he's willing to bend on his initial statement and let Sybil come back I'd trust his judgement. It would definitely help in a year we have no 2nd rounder and garbage for LT depth.

I'd rather just see him traded for a 2nd or 3rd to be honest but RR will have a better feel for it than us.
 
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