Who was the Redskins' biggest disappointment of 2015 ?

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What player was the biggest disappoint ? Or pick someone on the coaching staff, if you want.
I say Jeron Johnson. He was supposed to come in here and be a starter. He was supposed to be a "hidden gem", who was only "not well known", because he was stuck playing behind Chancellor in Seattle.
But he's basically disappeared. Has anyone even mentioned his name this year ?
Even as a backup player, he's hardly made a dent, and been practically non-existent. Does he even figure into the teams plans next year, at all ?

Along with that, Crowder - as a punt returner only - was a disappointment as well. Not just because of his recent poor game, but we were next to last in punt return average in the entire league. Punt Returner is something else we need to start looking for. How about Chris Thompson there ?
 
Alfred Morris hands down.

Indecisive, no burst through the hole due to it.

Looks lost in alot of games.

Overall, just doesn't look like the same player.
 
I think it speaks to how hard this team has fought, scratched, and clawed its way back to relevancy that I'm having a hard time thinking of many 'disappointments'. Morris is definitely one. And actually, given the flashes he has shown, Matt Jones has been somewhat of a disappointment, whether it's his fumbling issues and his seeming lack of durability. But overall, it's hard to be disappointed when so many players have stepped up and the team has surpassed all expectations.

My biggest disappointment in 2015 has been the numerous starters who have been lost for the season.
 
On offense Andre Roberts. On defense Perry Riley.
 
Keenan Robinson on Defense. What happened to that guy. He was bad even when he was healthy this year.

On offense, the entire running game. Morris just didn't look like the same guy. Jones showed some great potential, but fumbled too much and had some boneheaded plays. He also looked mediocre on a lot of runs, but he had did have some big plays. The offensive line couldn't run block and open holes.
 
I can't say Roberts only because he wasn't much worse than I expected out of him.

Probably Hatcher. I did expect quite a bit more than he delivered.
 
I wanna say Keenan Robinson, too. Yesterday when he went in on defense replacing Compton, there was a fairly stark contrast. Early in the season I saw him absolutely ball, his lateral movement got him into position to make plays that were pretty awesome. But something happened...Compton came in and proved he could run that position and defense far better with limited physical ability. Then I kinda figured Robinson would play well next to Compton, but they never went that route, it was either Riley (who played much better next to Compton) or Foster, who looked very solid down the stretch.

But Morris' play was probably the most disappointing. I wonder if his style of play simply couldn't transfer to a more direct, hit the hole style Gruden runs. As a slashing back, Morris displays patience and hits the holes. As a straight ahead runner, he almost always seemed to hesitate instead of hitting the hole.
 
I'd say it's the fans who spent most of the year shittin' in the lunch box of everybody who was optimistic about the team, now doing their best Cowboy Fan imitations of being "all in".

****ing hilarious, and disappointing.
 
Ax said:
I'd say it's the fans who spent most of the year shittin' in the lunch box of everybody who was optimistic about the team, now doing their best Cowboy Fan imitations of being "all in".

****ing hilarious, and disappointing.
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You have my permission to hold your breath and wait for an apology.
 
Apologies not necessary.

Our fair weather fans are greatly outnumbered by their Cowboy fan brethren. It's just disappointing to have ANY be just like those other fans.
 
McD, you had faith, not many others did. I know you'll never admit it, but to just about everyone else, Gruden's rookie season was a disaster. Unmitigated ****up. The data we had on Kirk wasn't good. The fact that Gruden switched starting QBs midway through the preseason didn't inspire confidence either.

This organization has been dysfunctional for so long it's absurd. There was no indication that dysfunction was going to end this year. None.

While I personally would never root against the Skins, I understand the frustration and anger that would drive someone in that direction.

Given both Kirk and Gruden's rough (to put it nicely) years last year, referring to those who had doubts as low IQ is a bit much.

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Disaster? Just going by wins and losses and the record alone defines it as a small improvement. Disaster? A small improvement is far from a disaster.

The only way a person would characterize a small improvement as a "disaster" is if they were emotional and absurd. Not rational. Or if they chose one player over their team.

The disaster was the previous year.

There were plenty of highlights in that first year that should have displayed the big changes being made. STs improved from the worst in league history, drama stopped, and a real offense began to be implemented. Colt McCoy winning on MNF in Dallas should have shown that we had the right people in place.

That's fine if people couldn't see it. It was even fine to blurt out their incorrect opinions all over the internet.

But to go to the Post in hopes of getting their names in the paper? Welcoming a guy like Scot to town in that manner--the first real GM we've had in forever? That's the kind of crap that could drive someone that talented away in search of a more appreciative fan base.

That was the most embarrassing behavior I've personally seen in nearly 40 years.
 
OK. I understand you personally will never admit Gruden had even a subpar year, but most objective fans would terms his first year as a disappointment at best. You can take all kinds of shots about being emotional if you want (being a free country and all) but that does little to sway anyone's opinion of you as a Gruden fanboy. It also, frankly, makes me less likely to publically acknowledge that I think Gruden has done a nice job in the second half of this year.

I've admitted as much in several threads, it's OK to admit your guy had a bad first year.
 
Those fans are emotional, impatient and unrealistic.

How long do you think it takes to turn a dumpster fire around in the NFL? How long does it take for the team to learn a new offense? How long to stop all of the drama and change a losing culture? How long to go from worst to first in the division?

A few weeks? A few months?
 
Do you think that's the average?

Forget the fact that he used 3 firsts on one player, left us with a salary cap penalty, physically destroyed that QB or caused a lot of the drama within the locker room. He also started with a QB that wasn't hobbled.

But that's the average?

Jeff Fisher just finished his fourth consecutive losing season in St. Louis trying to fix their program. And he had our draft picks.

Does anyone expect Cleveland to win their division next year?

By definition, Gruden's first season was a small improvement in the win/loss column. As we see now, it was the beginning of a big improvement.
 
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