All things Bourbon

I knew I liked you. Next time you're in VA, we need to get you over to the Valley to experience our burgeoning wines. You'd love it, trust me.
I'll be drinking with as many people here as possible next time I'm on the east coast! Hopefully this summer I'll get back there to visit family. And to not deviate too much from the subject of this thread, I will even drink bourbon back there. If that's the only thing left in the bar... :)
 
Fight over Tennessee whiskey spills into international booze business

A year-long fight among state legislators over the definition of true Tennessee whiskey is spilling over to the international distilled spirits business, dividing both Tennessee’s powerful whiskey interests and multinational corporations battling for billions of dollars in global market share.


For more than a century, distillers around Tennessee have produced whiskey — some legal, some illegal — using a variety of base products like corn, barley or rye, and a number of different techniques. But under a new law passed by the legislature last year, only one process would lead to genuine Tennessee whiskey: a drink made of fermented mash comprised of at least 51 percent corn, aged in new barrels of charred oak, filtered through charcoal and bottled at 40 percent alcohol, or higher, by volume.


On Tuesday, two Tennessee legislative committees voted to delay consideration of a new proposal that would roll back some of those requirements. The disagreement centers on the process by which Tennessee whiskey is distilled, and whether a producer has to use pricey new oak barrels every year.


Current law requires those new barrels be used. The bill up for debate, proposed by state Rep. Bill Sanderson (R), would allow whiskey makers to ferment their products in reused barrels, a process far less expensive than one that requires buying new barrels of expensive American oak year after year.


Supporters of the 2013 law said it was necessary to codify what the industry calls standards of identity, a concrete definition of what makes Tennessee whiskey special — and different from other, lower-quality spirits. But opponents say the law effectively codifies Jack Daniel’s formula.


“Any place that produces a product, in this case we’re talking about distilled spirits, that has a particular premium to it or particular ways you will make it, has standards to entry,” said Phil Lynch, a spokesman for Brown-Forman, the maker of Jack Daniel’s, Tennessee’s largest whiskey producer. “The standards of identity for Tennessee whiskey are the same that they’ve been, [the legislature had] just never codified them.”


Bourbon, like other spirits that enjoy federal standards of identity, is held to stricter requirements than mere whiskey. A federal law passed half a century ago requires that only beverages of fermented mash of at least 51 percent corn, not exceeding 160 proof — or 80 percent alcohol by volume — produced in the United States and not for export be allowed to call themselves bourbon.

more at link...
 
Starting a bourbon page on facebook, anyone interested message me your facebook info and join up!
 
So theoretically you cannot get bourbon outside of the United States?
 
So theoretically you cannot get bourbon outside of the United States?

Bourbon is shipped everywhere. Nowadays a certain amount is allocated for overseas. Makes it hard to get here sometimes.
 
Bourbon is shipped everywhere. Nowadays a certain amount is allocated for overseas. Makes it hard to get here sometimes.
Hrm. The thing you quoted says that federal law says to be called bourbun it can't be made for export. That's why i asked. maybe i'm reading it wrong or should have clicked the link to read more? :)
 
Hrm. The thing you quoted says that federal law says to be called bourbun it can't be made for export. That's why i asked. maybe i'm reading it wrong or should have clicked the link to read more? :)

That may have been the law at one time, but now exports are sucking the good bourbons out of the US.
 
I've been on European websites that have bourbon for sale.

I just found a $50 bottle of Stagg, Jr. Unfortunately, it was the last bottle.
 
Glad to find this thread. I've been a fan of bourbon for years with Maker's being my go to. But it really expanded when I did the Bourbon Trail with a bunch of college buddies a few years ago. Lot's of good stuff out there. I got the following article from from a bourbon friend of mine this morning and thought I'd share. Not sure if it really works, but I'm thinking about going in on the lower end of the Kickstarter campaign to check it out. I make some flavored vodkas and start by filtering a mid-ranged vodka through a charcoal filter 3-4 times. It can be amazing how different the vodka tastes after that extra filtering. This isn't exactly the same, but seems to go along the same lines albeit using wood.

This Ingenious New Invention Could Remove the Gross Stuff from Your Whiskey - Popular Mechanics

Kickstarter
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/263766519/whiskey-elements-customize-your-whiskey-in-24-hour
 
I am not a big drinker beyond a love of beer. I don't even keep liquor in my house. But my brother came out last night for the night and he loves bourbon so on the recommendation of the ABC guy, bought some bourbon they had on sale called 'Angel's Envy'. It's aged in port wine barrels. We made old-fashioneds with a little orange, cherry, and a little bit of my honey. Nice! A little rough around the edges this morning, but enjoyed it nevertheless.
 
Damn near any bourbon is fine in a mixed drink.

Good bourbon shouldn't be mixed with anything but an ice cube, or a sprinkle of water.
 
Damn near any bourbon is fine in a mixed drink.

Good bourbon shouldn't be mixed with anything but an ice cube, or a sprinkle of water.

Oh God, another liquor snob? Decent bourbon makes a decent mixed drink, great bourbon makes a memorable one.
 
Snob? Well I never...

A beautiful naked woman, is still beautiful with clothes on, too. Doesn't change my preference for having her, naked, on the rocks. :)
 
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I picked this up in Arizona. I don't know if it's any good, but it's the "Duke", dammit, and I had to have it!!!!!
 
Damn near any bourbon is fine in a mixed drink.

Good bourbon shouldn't be mixed with anything but an ice cube, or a sprinkle of water.

Oh God, another liquor snob? Decent bourbon makes a decent mixed drink, great bourbon makes a memorable one.

Mixed drink snobs ?

Decent bourbon makes an excellent Frozen Bushwacker :p
 

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