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Idk, the guy is probably nothing but a long term clip board holder at best (which is still good value), but AP was around for the Purdy draft pick. I’m intrigued anytime he’s intrigued by a guy with an NFL arm, anticipation, and processing upside. I’ll consider Hartman an anomaly as long as he’s not on our roster at the end of the summer.
People say he's smart but in his interview he called Sam Hartman an elite quarterback so i dont know.
Lol.
 
People say he's smart but in his interview he called Sam Hartman an elite quarterback so i dont know.
Lol.

Gotta compliment the guy you’re about to replace, but did he really say elite? lol
 
Fatman and little boy were the names of the atomic bombs we dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

So I guess when I think about it theres a distinct possibility those nicknames could be a little disrespectful when put in that context.
True story - my uncle was the Electronics officer on the Enola Gay, and it was the only combat mission he ever flew. He armed the bomb, so he was actually the last person to touch it before it dropped.
 
True story - my uncle was the Electronics officer on the Enola Gay, and it was the only combat mission he ever flew. He armed the bomb, so he was actually the last person to touch it before it dropped.
G.t.f.o, just watched a special where you're uncle talks about being the last guy to touch the bomb.

Pretty cool story.
 
It’s almost impossible how bad Rivera and Hurley were.

It’s not just the first round bombs. They struck out in almost every round every year. Almost so bad that you wonder if it was on purpose.
 
It’s almost impossible how bad Rivera and Hurley were.

It’s not just the first round bombs. They struck out in almost every round every year. Almost so bad that you wonder if it was on purpose.

They were paying scouts and a GM and a coach millions of dollars and they could have just picked amy of the ES draft posters and done better
 
They were paying scouts and a GM and a coach millions of dollars and they could have just picked amy of the ES draft posters and done better
Honestly, a random number generator would have probably done better.
 
It wasn't just the draft personnel.
It included FA signings, as well as insisting on forcing them back onto the field, like saying "Carson Wentz still has it". when it was clear that Carson Wentz's "get up and go, had got up and Wentzed"
 
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True story - my uncle was the Electronics officer on the Enola Gay, and it was the only combat mission he ever flew. He armed the bomb, so he was actually the last person to touch it before it dropped.

Has he been to the Air&Space at Udvar Hazy? It's got the Enola Gay and a catwalk so you can peer into it. Wonder how much of the insides of it looks like how he remembers. It seems so...uncomfortable and stripped down compared to stuff just done a few decades later.
 
Let's get this thread back on topic please.
 
I wonder how much is revealed for low round draft picks in the rookie mini camp? To what degree is the first impression made determinative.?
 
I wonder how much is revealed for low round draft picks in the rookie mini camp? To what degree is the first impression made determinative.?

I don't know about low round draft picks but I remember Ron cutting Moses after rookie minicamp because he thought Cosmi was going to be a stud RT
 
I don't know about low round draft picks but I remember Ron cutting Moses after rookie minicamp because he thought Cosmi was going to be a stud RT

I could be wrong, but my recollection is Moses was cut because he was perceived as injury-prone at that time
 
I think both are true.
 

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