The All Things Terry Thread

4. Keim mentioned the injury and said this is something Terry has been dealing with his entire career, and asked "Is it really something that would have kept him out if there was no contract negotiation? I think, you know, you can leave that up to yourself. " He did indicate it was time Terry got onto the field and started participating if he wanted to be ready for the season:


None of this is earth shattering stuff, but it reinforces a lot of the same things we've been saying.
If Terry really has been battling a chronic ankle injury all these years it is one more reason that the team can't go crazy with their offers. Chronic injuries are a ticking time bomb. I mean it's great that he has been playing through it, but at some point he won't be able to or it will really hamper his productivity.

It's just a matter of time.
 
Listened to Keim. I think he had 4 salient points:

1. He said that there is the possibility of a "final offer" coming from the team, but it hasn't happened yet. That would essentially be a "take it and sign the extension of play out your contract" offer. Terry could of course choose option 3 which would be to hold out into the regular season. He said some other GM told him it was "time to throw the hammer down." He didn't indicate if that was a current or former GM. I do wonder about Keim's sources are for outside of the team GMs. I'm sure he knows some of the other GMs, but the best way to get to know them is if they were here. And we haven't had a lot of good ones. I wonder sometimes if he's a little loosey goosey with "talked to a GM" and it's somebody at ESPN who was a former GM. But that's a bit of a useless digression. His point is still valid.
2. He said Terry had said he would not get on the field unless there is progress on a new deal. He said that at the Eastern Motors press conference. There doesn't seem to be progress, so Keim doesn't know what Terry will do if he's presented with a "final offer" deal.
3. Keim said he thinks the team MIGHT be willing to come up to an AAV of $28M, but he doesn't know if that would be enough to to entice McLaurin to sign. He didn't say yes or no, he said he didn't know. To me, this was maybe the most important thing he said.
4. Keim mentioned the injury and said this is something Terry has been dealing with his entire career, and asked "Is it really something that would have kept him out if there was no contract negotiation? I think, you know, you can leave that up to yourself. " He did indicate it was time Terry got onto the field and started participating if he wanted to be ready for the season:

"And um the couple things with that again, he's been at the facility working and you know, but you need to get up to speed.
You need to they play a fast-paced offense. This is the second fastest offense last year in terms of time average time between snaps. Only Dallas was faster.

So this is a you know an offense you need to be in really good shape to play now. You need to be in good shape anyway but especially with this one.
So and they need him on the field. If he wants to have the kind of season to get an even bigger deal then he needs to be on the field."

None of this is earth shattering stuff, but it reinforces a lot of the same things we've been saying.

Thanks for the summary.

I don’t understand how Terry could holdout from games and reach a desirable outcome. If he thinks there’s a reward at the end of that journey, he’s a moron. It will cost him a lot of money and ruin his reputation.

He can flex all he wants but end of the day, we are headed toward a best and final situation. And I’m much more interested in their positions on length and guarantees than “maybe 28” vs “at least 33”. That really doesn’t tell us much.
 
Very good point burgie, although the counter is, McLaurin has been Mr. Durability - which begs the question, how bad can the ankle (chronic or not) really be?
I agree with both of us.
 
If Terry really has been battling a chronic ankle injury all these years it is one more reason that the team can't go crazy with their offers. Chronic injuries are a ticking time bomb. I mean it's great that he has been playing through it, but at some point he won't be able to or it will really hamper his productivity.

It's just a matter of time.

I noticed in one of those videos of him at camp he seemed to have a little limp but didn’t really think much of it. Thought it was just an awkward couple steps or some such.
 
Very good point burgie, although the counter is, McLaurin has been Mr. Durability - which begs the question, how bad can the ankle (chronic or not) really be?
The way Keim put it, he sortof insinuated "it's a thing that he has to deal with but it's not big deal." Which is why he said "you draw your own conclusions.

My personal view is he's a 30 year old WR which means he's going to start having more injuries and things which weren't a big deal will become harder to deal with over time. Father Time is undefeated.
 
Players who want to be shown “respect” through big numbers hate incentives and escalators, on principle
I get it, they want the most guaranteed money they can get.

I'm pretty good at my personal salary negotiations and I show some flexiblity. If they want to take money out of my base then I need more RSU's and incentives/increased bonus structures based on a multitude of items. This always ends up costing the employer more in the long run. I haven't lost yet.
 
I personally am willing to feel respected for just one lousy million dollars.
Heck, I'm willing to be disrespected by someone paying me 15 million dollars. I will bare that burden. Test me. I will stoically absorb the blow.
 
The one nice thing about board life is that I don't have to click this thread to know nothing has happened. All I have to do is scroll up to the bell and look at notifications. If something happens the number will be enormous.
 
Hell, somebody can disrespect me for half a million…I won’t even complain.
 
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