His one outlier season and career is still better than Dexter's..
OK if you want to believe that, nothing I can do about it.
It's not even close.
His one outlier season and career is still better than Dexter's..
well we see GM's do stupid trade all the time, so no ones rating of a player is gospile.
I watched them plenty along with all the other NFC east teams as i live in Virginia..dexter has a way better supporting cast of DL and still can't match Payne's production in physical stats and not some imaginary stat like pressures.I doubt you watched the Giants much, that dude is a monster. Payne is far from it. There is a reason why executives ranked him as the best DT in the league. There is a reason why his peers ranked him as the 17th best player in the NFL. There is a reason why he has been All Pro. And there is a reason why Cincy traded a top 10 pick for him.
I watched them plenty along with all the other NFC east teams as i live in Virginia..dexter has a way better supporting cast of DL and still can't match Payne's production in physical stats and not some imaginary stat like pressures.
I actually think that this is probably their dream more than TysonI don't care about the Giants getting Styles or Downs...I do care about them getting both.
Dexter has never came close to Paynes sack totals ,and pressures don't mean shit when it can be subjective to personal opinion..Why does NY's defense suck worse than Washingtons in rushing and sacks if he is so good along with all the other !st round picks they got on the DL?
Did you watch any games last year? How many drives did Payne stop with batted balls ,safety's or tackles for loss? He can't cover up all the other terrible players that played on defense. yet he still beat Dexter in every stat besides some imaginary pressure buy some outlet.you guys are pinning the whole defensive failures on him due to how much money he makes..I’m sorry and mean no offense, but that means you really just don’t know what you’re watching when you’re observing him play. He is worth orders of magnitude more than Payne. Even if you think the Bengals overpaid whenever the final trade tally comes out, we’d be lucky to get a 4th round pick for Payne in trade, and demanding a much smaller extension.
This is not even a conversation worth having, truly. They are not close and nearly ALL observers would agree.
Did you watch any games last year? How many drives did Payne stop with batted balls ,safety's or tackles for loss? He can't cover up all the other terrible players that played on defense. yet he still beat Dexter in every stat besides some imaginary pressure buy some outlet.you guys are pinning the whole defensive failures on him due to how much money he makes..
Crazy to give up a top 10 pick for a player that has such minimal impact.Back on topic, I think if that trade tells us anything it’s actually that the perception of this draft once the blue chips are gone is as poor as we’ve assumed. Bengals decided an elite 28-year old DT on a massive contract is worth more to them than whoever they could get on a cost-controlled rookie contract at 10. They’re in a win-now window for sure but I still think it says that they expect all of the immediate-impact studs to be gone by then.
I think the consensus is Delane in that scenario.From being on here since the beginning of the off-season until now, I feel like the consensus worst case scenario on this site, give or take is:
1- Mendoza
2- Bailey
3- Reese
4- Love
5- Styles
6- Tate
That could legitimately happen. If it does then what do all of you want to do at 7


You guys on this board better be right about Tyson's injuries following him or we are in trouble for a decade. Next year we may have to deal with Brown & Smith in Philly, Ceedee & Pickens in Dallas, and Nabers & Tyson in NY