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It's becoming a factor in the 2nd half, particularly our defense.
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Maybe you can also get the refs on a strength and conditioning program too. That may help them not make so many bad calls in the 4th quarter. In this game, they literally stopped the clock for 4 seconds at the end of the game when they shouldn't have. It was probably because the refs were out of breath and just needed to a quick breather. Call up the league office and offer your services.
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The Philadelphia Eagles are closing the kill on the Steelers, and never get beaten in the 4th quarter. Something is wrong with all of our blown leads.
It's called lack of talent, something you've repeatedly failed to grasp.
They are a team of try hards, playing above their heads right now. More talent across the board fixes this issue you are fretting over.
Yes, there is. Sometimes lack of talent, sometimes playcalling, sometimes bad luck, sometimes poor execution, usually a combination of all of them—as any over-achieving rebuild would have happen.
The fact that you’re convinced it’s simply not being in good enough shape or giving enough effort is extremely silly
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Currently Washington is in a better strength & conditioning position than 21 teams and in a worse position than 7 teams.
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The pattern of poor 4th quarter performance is a trend that Lombardi contenders do not have.
Are you not concerned?
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Look at 1st and 2nd quarter of yesterday vs 4th quarter. We should have won by 3 TDs or more but nearly lost.
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This team is not a serious Lombardi contender and no level of ‘strength & conditioning’ would make them so at this point. It is just not talented enough.
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How do you make that assumption - based on the significant leads we've been able to establish in many games and that we've only not had a lead in one game the entire season (Tampa Bay)
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Washington is tied with New England for the easiest schedule in the NFL so far this season and have lost 5 games. They were also lucky to beat Chicago thanks to some of the worst coaching decisions of the year by a now fired HC.
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We think of ourselves as lucky for winning Chicago because of the Hail Mary, but we also led that game for 59/60 minutes. There is something that happens to this team in the second half. I don't think it's a conditioning issue as much as it is a depth/talent issue and the coaches playing it a little more conservatively to protect the lead or offenses figuring out how to see through our smoke and mirrors. Regardless, we deserved the win against Chicago even though they almost stole it.
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It's frustrating - because we proved we could fight (at least offensively) in the 4th quarter in the Bengals and Cowboys games - but it seems that just as many times large leads have evaporated.
I'm glad we didn't lose yesterday on a 2 pt conversion, think it would have derailed any chance of the postseason. It just was annoying they were even in a position to win with a 2nd/3rd string QB leading them and Kamara out (whose TD shouldn't have been ruled a TD and I couldn't believe Quinn didn't challenge the call)
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The Hail Mary was lucky for several reasons: that Eberflus decided to play well off on the play prior that allowed us to even get in range for the throw and hope, and that Stevenson was selfishly unprepared for the play and then ignored his assignment, which was to defend the deep area. That when on the one going in, they handed off to an offensive lineman. Despite how that game had progressed early…Chicago should have won it.
I couldn’t agree more. The refereeing in this league has gone downhill so bad. It’s like we’re all commentating on the WWE
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Thought came to me late, but yesterday's collapse may also have a bit to do with Chinn going down. Chinn's been playing at a probowl and maybe even an All Pro level. I like Forrest, but he had big shoes to fill coming in cold like that.
We are not Lombardi contenders, we’re a jumped up rebuild who is ahead of schedule as people keep saying. I’ll worry a lot more about it after this coming offseason when we’ve had a second chance to infuse the roster with talented and explosive athletes.
Are you unable to watch the team when it plays well and still look at it and distinguish it from the actual elite teams in the league? It feels like your expectations are extremely out of wack and I have to assume it’s due to our first half season performances. I doubt you came into the season with Lombardi contention on your mind in year 1. Right? And that’s why you put it down to “conditioning” and effort, because we started hot and you don’t get how we don’t look like that every week. When in reality that’s a hallmark of rebuilding teams whose best years are still ahead of them.
Our starters aren’t talented enough, our depth isn’t good enough, and thus injuries impact both those groups too heavily. We aren’t good yet, we’re just feisty.
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We had Jackson and Hurts on the ROPES with PICKS on the initial drives. Yet we let them off the hook.
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True, he's been a force this year.
Part of being an elite team is not just flashing competitiveness—but consistently playing to the absolute ceiling of your talent and athleticism. Our roster isn’t there yet because the players aren’t good enough and our systems aren’t engrained enough. Not because the effort isn’t consistent enough from Q1-Q4 each game. These issues compound over a long game and a long season, and the less talented you are the harder it is to “fake it” and compete anyway over a larger sample size. You can still punch above your weight class when you’re feisty and well-coached, but not always for four straight quarters and definitely not throughout an entire season. That streakiness is where we’re at now.
Again I’ll remind you that this hard-nosed rebuilt Lions regime under Dan Campbell everyone loves took years. His first 1.5 seasons they were 4-19-1. Including an 0-10-1 start in their first 11 games under him. They didn’t make the playoffs at all until year 3 (just last year). Before that all anyone could say about them was that the teams they played FELT those games, and that they were feisty try-hards who were clearly on the right path. But they didn’t get the talent to match until last year. Multiple offseasons after Campbell was hired, multiple draft and FA periods later.
These things take time. If effort and conditioning were the main difference makers, this league would look a lot different.
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