Random NFL Thoughts

[SkinsNumberOne]

Falcons releasing Kirk.

Should this be in the free agent thread?

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

Should this be in the free agent thread?

 

[Boone]

The cap hit the Dolphins are taking to let Tua walk is just staggering. It could take them years to be competitive again.

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

The cap hit the Dolphins are taking to let Tua walk is just staggering. It could take them years to be competitive again.

I didn’t see, how much is the hit?

Remember tank for Tua? Well, they kindof did, then failed to fully tank, then got him anyway.

Now they’re going to have to tank for somebody else.

 

[Boone]

I didn’t see, how much is the hit?

Remember tank for Tua? Well, they kindof did, then failed to fully tank, then got him anyway.

Now they’re going to have to tank for somebody else.

$99 million spread over 2 seasons - 67 of it in 2026 and the rest in 2027. If you can effing believe that.

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

$99 million spread over 2 seasons - 67 of it in 2026 and the rest in 2027. If you can effing believe that.

That’s a lot to pay somebody to go away.

I mean, why not just keep him at that price and just Deshawn Watson him if he’s that bad. It’s cheaper to keep him than let him leave and the roster spot is not THAT valuable

 

[SkinsFTW]

That’s a lot to pay somebody to go away.

I mean, why not just keep him at that price and just Deshawn Watson him if he’s that bad. It’s cheaper to keep him than let him leave and the roster spot is not THAT valuable

Ask Russell Wilson.

The Broncos just went through this and still should have been in the SB if not for a QB injury.

Apparently cap hits aren't the end of the world, even though our team won't even come close to spending up to the cap.

 

[SkinsNumberOne]

The cap hit the Dolphins are taking to let Tua walk is just staggering. It could take them years to be competitive again.

I seem to remember a team taking a gigantic punitive cap hit and THEY managed to be... well...

yes you have a point.

By the way, if anyone is thinking that 36 million is nowhere close to the 99 million, check this math out according to Copilot (I asked it to compare the hit as a percentage of the cap back then):

• In 2012, the NFL salary cap was $120.6M. The Redskins’ $36M penalty equaled 29.8% of the entire cap.
• Applying that same 29.8% to today’s cap ($301.2M in 2026) gives an equivalent penalty of ≈ $89.7M.

I guess the biggest thing will be how many draft picks they have. They are going to be a clearinghouse for players I assume.

 

[SkinsFTW]

I seem to remember a team taking a gigantic punitive cap hit and THEY managed to be... well...

yes you have a point.

By the way, if anyone is thinking that 36 million is nowhere close to the 99 million, check this math out according to Copilot (I asked it to compare the hit as a percentage of the cap back then):

• In 2012, the NFL salary cap was $120.6M. The Redskins’ $36M penalty equaled 29.8% of the entire cap.
• Applying that same 29.8% to today’s cap ($301.2M in 2026) gives an equivalent penalty of ≈ $89.7M.

I guess the biggest thing will be how many draft picks they have. They are going to be a clearinghouse for players I assume.

And Shanahan still put a playoff team together.

 

[SkinsNumberOne]

And Shanahan still put a playoff team together.

Yes even after that hit - the draft of course was key. So the Dolphins can do some things if they have some really good drafts, and of course excellent coaching. Those Shan teams were loaded on the offensive coaching staff, but of course we all know that old story.

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

$99 million spread over 2 seasons - 67 of it in 2026 and the rest in 2027. If you can effing believe that.

67M in 2026 is ~22% of the cap.

That's a lot.

If I'm not mistaken, we got hit with a $36m. The 2012 cap was $120m. That was 15% of the cap.

It's not that a team can't overcome it, and sometimes you just have to bite the bullet.

If they just kept him on the roster and never played him, they take a $56m hit. That's $10m less. Then they could June 1st him and spread the remaining $48m over 2 years.

I mean, I've never heard Tua is a bad guy, or a bad locker room guy, or whatever. They made a mistake to sign him.

But that's a whole lot of money to pay a guy to go away.

Russ was cooked. And he and Payton didn't get along. And he wasn't good for the locker room. That was a marriage that had to end.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Ask Russell Wilson.

The Broncos just went through this and still should have been in the SB if not for a QB injury.

Apparently cap hits aren't the end of the world, even though our team won't even come close to spending up to the cap.

This is still one of the more impressive things I've seen recently. We all thought that cap hit would have killed the Broncos for several years. I feel the same way about the Rams after they sold out to acquire Mathew Stafford. We need an organization that can find really good players in the later rounds.

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

This is still one of the more impressive things I've seen recently. We all thought that cap hit would have killed the Broncos for several years. I feel the same way about the Rams after they sold out to acquire Mathew Stafford. We need an organization that can find really good players in the later rounds.

It’s true. But there is also a component of luck to it.

Also they hit on a QB in the draft and already had a good defense under contract.

Essentially they could absorb the Wilson contract hit because they weren’t paying another QB beans. And Payton is a heck of a coach. Even if he’s a gigantic egotistical ass hat.

But they deserve a lot of credit for getting through it and being competitive.

I seem to remember a team taking a gigantic punitive cap hit and THEY managed to be... well...

yes you have a point.

By the way, if anyone is thinking that 36 million is nowhere close to the 99 million, check this math out according to Copilot (I asked it to compare the hit as a percentage of the cap back then):

• In 2012, the NFL salary cap was $120.6M. The Redskins’ $36M penalty equaled 29.8% of the entire cap.
• Applying that same 29.8% to today’s cap ($301.2M in 2026) gives an equivalent penalty of ≈ $89.7M.

I guess the biggest thing will be how many draft picks they have. They are going to be a clearinghouse for players I assume.

I just saw this but keep in mind they split the cap penalty between 2 years so they took ~18% cap penalty 2 years in a row.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

It’s true. But there is also a component of luck to it.

Also they hit on a QB in the draft and already had a good defense under contract.

Essentially they could absorb the Wilson contract hit because they weren’t paying another QB beans. And Payton is a heck of a coach. Even if he’s a gigantic egotistical ass hat.

But they deserve a lot of credit for getting through it and being competitive.



I just saw this but keep in mind they split the cap penalty between 2 years so they took ~18% cap penalty 2 years in a row.

With the Wilson cap hit I had assumed they would need to release productive players. Either that didn't happen or they drafted well enough to replace them.

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

With the Wilson cap hit I had assumed they would need to release productive players. Either that didn't happen or they drafted well enough to replace them.

They didn’t really need to do it. At least not in a meaningful way. And they drafted well.

It prevented them a bit from signing players but the fact they weren’t paying another QB helped a whole lot.

 

[skinzplay]

Photos Of Mike Vrabel, NFL Insider Dianna Russini Cause Stir Online

New England Patriots coach Mike Vrabel and The Athletic's Dianna Russini are making headlines this NFL offseason for the wrong reason. Vrabel, who has been married to his wife Jen since 1999, was rece...

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My opinion of Russini and her ethics could not possibly be any lower, so this latest development only confirms what many in the league have known for a while. So unprofessional.

 

[Chris]

‘So why did Russini leave ESPN? She simply wanted to take on more respomsinildty as a reporter.’

Apparently Russini puts the sin in respomsinildty.

 

[skinzplay]

There have been some excellent female reporters covering this league. Though many of the best are near retirement or have already retired, you would NEVER imagine seeing any of them sitting in a damn hot tub with a coach (among other things). Never. This is pure unprofessionalism. I wouldn't want Russini working for my media outlet in any capacity, and I would've said that a decade ago. This shit is nothing new for her.

 

[skinzplay]

If the NFL views Matt Ryan as the real GM and decision-maker in ATL, then the league needs to penalize the Falcons for violating league rules for hiring GMs instead of denying Chicago those Cunningham draft picks. Can't lean on rules/policy relative to the latter while pretending there was nothing wrong with the process that gave us the former, at least not with any credibility.