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Burgundy Burner said:
yes and yes.
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Wow. Impressive, and at the same time, disturbing. I don't know how they expected to get away with that. I guess they were figuring they wouldn't be one of the random tear-down cars.

I love the adjustment aspect of NASCAR. Sure, the technology in F1 is far superior. The driver can basically make the car "perfect" from the cockpit. But then, anyone can drive a car that's constantly dialed in.

I have a lot more respect for a guy who's hanging it at 200+ MPH in a poorly handling race car. And I love the aspect of having to take what the driver is telling you (not telemetry) and decide what adjustments to make.

NASCAR could adopt many of the technologies currently used in F1 or IndyCar, but I am very happy that they've made sure that the crew chief and teams remain such an integral part of a driver's success.

This is just one of the many, many points that can be brought up to the "drive fast, turn lefters."
 
MikeSr619 said:
if they dont have more horsepower they must have just evened it out because they did. about 15 horsepower more if i recall correctly.
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not at all. jgr and hms have two things down...oil and chassis. yeah, they took some hp from jgr in nationwide. noticed what happened? jgr simply refined the oil even better than before.
 
MikeSr619 said:
if they dont have more horsepower they must have just evened it out because they did. about 15 horsepower more if i recall correctly.
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As you know, HP numbers are never officially released. All of what we get in terms of dyno numbers is hearsay. Some of it is pretty good hearsay, but it's hearsay nonetheless.

(Hmm....Wonder if I could use "hearsay" one more time. Yep. Just did.)
 
Burgundy Burner said:
not at all. jgr and hms have two things down...oil and chassis. yeah, they took some hp from jgr in nationwide. noticed what happened? jgr simply refined the oil even better than before.
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And they have better pedal magnets too. :cool4:

Hey, how long do you guys figure it'll be until NASCAR Thread posts don't count? :laugh:
 
MikeSr619 said:
plus watching indy car is boring. they usually run single file and the passes are simple and textbook.

rubbin is racin. give me 4 wide on a 30 degree bank going 195MPH and tell me your heart doesnt get pumpin!!
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Preach it, Reverend Mike! Preach on!!!
 
honorary_hog said:
Wow. Impressive, and at the same time, disturbing. I don't know how they expected to get away with that. I guess they were figuring they wouldn't be one of the random tear-down cars.
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it didn't happen after the race. an official noticed it after the cars were brought down pit road just before the rain came down. the car was sitting a bit lower and they did a quick look-see. again - this is what i've heard, no confirmation yet.
 
Burgundy Burner said:
it didn't happen after the race. an official noticed it after the cars were brought down pit road just before the rain came down. the car was sitting a bit lower and they did a quick look-see. again - this is what i've heard, no confirmation yet.
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That's crazy if it's true. Sounds like a very, very alert official.

The anti-Jim Joyce if you will. :)
 
#38 front row motorsports penalty...

150 points, $100k fine, 12 week suspensions to crew chief, car chief, tire specialist.
 
BB, good to see you here. Hope you are recovering well!

Looks like I have some catching up to do. I have not had the chance to be as up to date as I'd like.

I am not excited about the car manufacturer, but...

JGR!!!

That last comment was just for you Mike!
 
Elephant said:
BB, good to see you here. Hope you are recovering well!

Looks like I have some catching up to do. I have not had the chance to be as up to date as I'd like.

I am not excited about the car manufacturer, but...

JGR!!!

That last comment was just for you Mike!
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Don't sweat it, E. While BB and I, and Mike too, for the most part, are addicts, we don't look down on the more casual fans at all. If there's anything you'd like to be brought up to speed on, or any questions you have, just ask! It's a privilege to help our fellow fans share in the sport!

That's one of the things that I really love about NASCAR is the inclusiveness. Sure, we enjoy the rivalries as much as fans of any other sport, but there isn't the animosity that there is in other sports. I can sit at the track with a Kyle Busch fan and talk all day long. I'd never dream of (nor want to for that matter) talking to an Eagles fan, even for a minute.

Oh, and screw JGR. :cool4:
 
I used to go to both Dover races back in the 80's. You knew that Elliott, Gant, Earnhardt, and couple others would dominate things. Our seats were toward end of pit road, so could see top teams pit.

Still check on things, but seemed like the France family had something against Fords and rules were always against them. I'm one of those old farts that weren't happy when Toyota came along.
 
Elephant said:
BB, good to see you here. Hope you are recovering well!

Looks like I have some catching up to do. I have not had the chance to be as up to date as I'd like.

I am not excited about the car manufacturer, but...

JGR!!!

That last comment was just for you Mike!
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thanks for the well wishes. got a few more weeks to go.

i'm ok with toyota - it's not the first time a so-called foreign manufacturer has been in nascar. i have three, uh, make that two toys. great vehicles.
 
One of my most prized possessions is the LF tire from Mark Martin's 2005 Daytona 500 car. This tire is from 2nd set and autographed. A friend surprised me with it.
 
riggins44 said:
One of my most prized possessions is the LF tire from Mark Martin's 2005 Daytona 500 car. This tire is from 2nd set and autographed. A friend surprised me with it.
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Awesome, Riggo. I have a left front from Martin's '04 600 car. I turned it into a West Virginia coffee table by putting a round piece of glass on top of it.

There was a time when I had sheet metal from all 5 Roush cars in my basement. And there was also a time that I had a basement. lol. I had an autographed fender from the 6, a fender from the old 97, the RF quarterpanel from Kenseth's first win auto'd by him and Robbie Reiser, and a half door off of the 99.

My prized possession was the entire decklid off of one of Biffle's All-Star cars that had been wrecked, complete with the spoiler, and five of the six brackets.

I sold it all after my divorce, but I'll have a similar collection again when I have a place to put it all.

Also, I was one of those "OMG!!! Toyota's gonna ruin everything!!!" kinda guys at first. But they've become just another manufacturer to me. I have little doubt that my heart is half Skins logo, half blue oval, but I haven't found the Toyotes to be as big a deal as I expected.
 
MikeSr619 said:
ok, so I get that they have "special oil" they use..but even with that if they get extra horsepower how is that fair?

shouldnt everyone use the SAME oil lke they do fuel and tires?

and Brian, you are hereby SHUNNED!!
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they are following the rules. oil is something that these teams exploit to the fullest - and it is allowed.
 
Mike, shun away! But it looks like JGR will likely have 2 in the top 5 at the end of the year with one of them winning it all!
 
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