Official Game Thread - Week 7 - @ New York Giants

Gates was definitely part of the problem this week. He and Charles both struggled against the Giants' interior D Line.

It wasn't until Stromberg came in that Sam got some relief from pressure up the middle.
 
I haven’t seen the game yet, so maybe that’s why I was questioning.
 
Chris said:
Nine days until the trade deadline. All phone lines are open. Nobody except McLaurin should be exempt from consideration.

Let The Process II begin.
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With all due respect and I know folks are hoping that we’ll try to trade players before the trade deadline to get some value, but seriously - do we want Ron and the existing front office making these decisions?

No matter what - I can’t see Harris and Crew letting Ron making personnel decisions with any impact beyond the 2023 season.

If Harris lets Ron go fire sale route - I am extremely concerned. Any decisions impacting the team beyond this season MUST be left to the new GM/Head of Football Operations that will be hired.

Hopefully, “Team Harris” is already getting advice and insights about the existing roster and has started the process of identifying this potential new GM/Head of Football Operations.
 
The timing is problematic. I suspect we’ll do nothing. Only potential factor that might allow trying to trade some guys before the deadline would be if they already have a ‘GM in waiting’ assessing things and who could direct some moves on behalf of the owners. I think it’s more likely our future GM is busy with their current NFL gig.
 
* sigh *

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You’d think we were the only team who’d ever scored 7 points :rolleyes:

I actually think Magic deserves the mocking for the latest of his Captain Obvious tweets. :co-obvious:

Someday Washington fans won’t have to be subjected to public ridicule and that will be nice. I hope to live to see it.
 
Not the only. Just one of 100 in the last ten years, and one of 1,778 in NFL history. :cautious:

But FWIW, my takeaway was Rich was just poking a little fun at Magic ... so ... yeah.
 
I guess. But I doubt that whole bit happens if any other exec says something similarly stupid. We’re the mangy dog the pundits love to kick the most :)
 
Well I certainly trust the completely objective take of NFC executives :)

The reason we’d get low-balled on a deal is because we’ve shown over and over we can be had in trade deals. It has little to do with what these guys are actually worth.
 
Boone said:
I guess. But I doubt that whole bit happens if any other exec says something similarly stupid. We’re the mangy dog the pundits love to kick the most :)
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And I'm about tired of Jay Gruden getting trotted out on all these shows to give his advice. Like WTF has he ever accomplished in this league. If he was that good, he'd still be here.
 
Bottom line, as others have said, I don’t think we want this front office making deals of any kind that have long term ramifications.
 
One thing to think about with regards to Sweat / Young getting traded. Generally the 'best' you can possibly get for letting these guys walk would be a compensatory pick in the 2025 NFL draft. That USUALLY is your floor, where if you can't get a 3rd, you don't trade them.

The part of this that we need to remember is that compensatory picks get washed out if you are signing a similar Free Agent(s) based on contract. We're entering an offseason where we likely have an entirely new front office walking in the door with a currently projected $83 Million in cap space. Some relatively easy moves (Charles Leno - $7.5M / Andrew Wylie - $1.6M / Logan Thomas - $6.75M) and you can jump that number close to $100M. I imagine we will be very active in Free Agency as a very large number of players are in the final years of their deals. This means we would likely get absolutely NOTHING if we actually let these guys walk at the end of the season. Harris and company better be paying attention to this, as we're entering a very unique circumstance. We all hated how Dan Snyder meddled, but I think it's absolutely necessary that Harris pulls the trigger (hopefully under advisement from an actual football person and not shooting at the hip) to make something here happen... even if it means we don't get what they may 'think' is possible. A 4th round pick in 2024 may be worth it, even if it FEELS like pennies on the dollar....

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That all being said... If you want to believe this report by Josina Anderson.. there are teams actively willing to EXTEND them, which greatly increases their trade value. A 9 game rental is not worth a ton for a contender, an EDGE guy with an extension for 3 - 4 years is VASTERLY more valuable, especially when there are supposedly MULTIPLE teams involved

 
I’ve been looking at this today, as well.

I have also seen it mentioned that neither Young nor Sweat are guaranteed to be fan’s of a sign & trade and may be more motivated to be free agents, depending on the potential teams involved and the money offered.

Also, does this caveat apply to Young not having his 5th year contract option exercised?

  • Prior to the 2020 CBA, players who have options declined by their former teams qualified for the compensatory formula, even though the team had a method to keep them under contract. For one example, see Donte Stallworth in 2009, who qualified in favor of New England despite having an option on his contract declined. However, the 2020 has closed the loophole. However, App. V, §8 now makes explicit that such players, as well as any player who does not complete the “Maximum Possible Term” of the contract will not be eligible to become CFAs. This similarly applies to any player whose contract was shortened via renegotiation.
 
Chris said:
I’ve been looking at this today, as well.

I have also seen it mentioned that neither Young nor Sweat are guaranteed to be fan’s of a sign & trade and may be more motivated to be free agents, depending on the potential teams involved and the money offered.

Also, does this caveat apply to Young not having his 5th year contract option exercised?

  • Prior to the 2020 CBA, players who have options declined by their former teams qualified for the compensatory formula, even though the team had a method to keep them under contract. For one example, see Donte Stallworth in 2009, who qualified in favor of New England despite having an option on his contract declined. However, the 2020 has closed the loophole. However, App. V, §8 now makes explicit that such players, as well as any player who does not complete the “Maximum Possible Term” of the contract will not be eligible to become CFAs. This similarly applies to any player whose contract was shortened via renegotiation.
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Good lord, i did not know that.

not that Rivera and Co give a hoot about a comp pick in 2 years from now.


Where did you find that?
 
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Chris said:
I’ve been looking at this today, as well.

I have also seen it mentioned that neither Young nor Sweat are guaranteed to be fan’s of a sign & trade and may be more motivated to be free agents, depending on the potential teams involved and the money offered.

Also, does this caveat apply to Young not having his 5th year contract option exercised?

  • Prior to the 2020 CBA, players who have options declined by their former teams qualified for the compensatory formula, even though the team had a method to keep them under contract. For one example, see Donte Stallworth in 2009, who qualified in favor of New England despite having an option on his contract declined. However, the 2020 has closed the loophole. However, App. V, §8 now makes explicit that such players, as well as any player who does not complete the “Maximum Possible Term” of the contract will not be eligible to become CFAs. This similarly applies to any player whose contract was shortened via renegotiation.
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Apparently (at least according to PFF) the above rule doesn’t apply to first contract players whose 5th year options aren’t exercised…

 
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