Official Game Thread - Week 6 MNF - Bears @ Commanders

I think as we fans, we want to ascribe everything to ‘desire’ and whether players and coaches ‘care’ enough or not.

We’re pissed about a bad loss and it’s a human need to lay blame.

I think those that raise the idea that this is still fairly early in a rebuild with a 2nd year QB who while extremely talented is still learning, and that we still have some significant talent holes, are probably closer to the truth.
 
I think as we fans, we want to ascribe everything to ‘desire’ and whether players and coaches ‘care’ enough or not.
This is true.

But the sad part is I don’t think it has anything to do with want-to or focus. Just bad talent coordinated poorly.
 
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Staring right down the barrel of a 4 game losing streak with the brand of defense ( what defense?) this team plays.
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I think both of our coordinators were affected by personnel issues, but they also both got out-coached.

Bears defense didn’t worry about respecting our receivers (understandably… although I assume they put added emphasis on containing Deebo) and focused on loading the box and bringing pressure. If Terry were out there, I question whether Chicago rolls with the same scheme. Almost everything looked difficult. Daniels faced a lot of quick pressure. I was waiting on max pro, double move calls and we finally got it with Lane. McCaffrey did a good job showing as a blocker to get wide open on his td. Ertz had a great fake outside before cutting inside for a nice gain. Maybe those latter two aren’t considered “double moves”, but they have the same effect. We had the one RPO pass that got called back… I think we could have called more of those, but as pure PA (or PA with Daniels taking off if the look wasn’t open). I think Kliff needed to do a lot more (and earlier) to get the defense to back off the LOS.

Pains me to say it, but Ben Johnson just had his way with our defense. We got “lucky” on D with the Bears making some mistakes (and that bogus illegal formation call on their td). Williams isn’t even a good qb. Mariota might have put up 40 against our D. In Whitt’s defense, they have a lot of quality weapons, but I think he probably needed to put numbers in the box - try to stuff their run game and fluster Williams with pressure. Instead, seems like he picked a middle ground and got beat both ways, on the ground and in the air. Again, personnel’s a factor. Another quality cover corner, a stud DE opposite Armstrong, a better coverage LB or a better safety duo… any of those could help Whitt in terms of scheming.

Both coaches seemed to lean into what the stats said - Chicago couldn’t run the ball and couldn’t stop the run - and didn’t do nearly enough to scrap the plans they accordingly came in with. But I don’t really know, that’s just my impression.
 
I think both of our coordinators were affected by personnel issues, but they also both got out-coached.

Bears defense didn’t worry about respecting our receivers (understandably… although I assume they put added emphasis on containing Deebo) and focused on loading the box and bringing pressure. If Terry were out there, I question whether Chicago rolls with the same scheme. Almost everything looked difficult. Daniels faced a lot of quick pressure. I was waiting on max pro, double move calls and we finally got it with Lane. McCaffrey did a good job showing as a blocker to get wide open on his td. Ertz had a great fake outside before cutting inside for a nice gain. Maybe those latter two aren’t considered “double moves”, but they have the same effect. We had the one RPO pass that got called back… I think we could have called more of those, but as pure PA (or PA with Daniels taking off if the look wasn’t open). I think Kliff needed to do a lot more (and earlier) to get the defense to back off the LOS.

Pains me to say it, but Ben Johnson just had his way with our defense. We got “lucky” on D with the Bears making some mistakes (and that bogus illegal formation call on their td). Williams isn’t even a good qb. Mariota might have put up 40 against our D. In Whitt’s defense, they have a lot of quality weapons, but I think he probably needed to put numbers in the box - try to stuff their run game and fluster Williams with pressure. Instead, seems like he picked a middle ground and got beat both ways, on the ground and in the air. Again, personnel’s a factor. Another quality cover corner, a stud DE opposite Armstrong, a better coverage LB or a better safety duo… any of those could help Whitt in terms of scheming.

Both coaches seemed to lean into what the stats said - Chicago couldn’t run the ball and couldn’t stop the run - and didn’t do nearly enough to scrap the plans they accordingly came in with. But I don’t really know, that’s just my impression.

I don’t think Kliff got outcoached. His O put up 24 points despite 3 turnovers and a missed FG. His side was the one that has dealt with major injuries too

Whitt, on the other hand,…
 
Game on the line and you lose focus? Yeah, that's a good trait to have in a "Franchise" Qb.

Something's not right there.
Dont forget he also had the ball slip out of his hands right before that but got lucky with the bounce. Dont think JD is made for cold and wet
 
In reading this thread, all I can think is that I'd love to meet some of you god-like beings who never made a mistake at work, suffered a letdown by a coworker, or slipped on a wet or icy piece of pavement. Oh, how magnificent it must be to bask in your reflected glory, Your Majesties.
 
I don’t think Kliff got outcoached. His O put up 24 points despite 3 turnovers and a missed FG. His side was the one that has dealt with major injuries too

Whitt, on the other hand,…
This is true. Though to be fair, I think Whitt has more personnel issues to deal with overall (and no Jayden Daniels equivalent). I’m not at all absolving Whitt, I just think Kliff has a bit more to work with.

Just felt that moving the ball on offense was generally difficult. Chicago extended a fair few of our drives with penalties, they had the blown coverage on McCaffrey, and Jayden made something out of nothing with tough scrambles pretty often. Our run game didn’t get going and pass pro was shaky, and I took that as a coaching issue more than personnel.
 
I trust that this will take 5 to even another level and he will come out wanting to dominate in every game. Still, we have to fix our flaws and not just depend on Jayden to be Superman every game
 
This is true. Though to be fair, I think Whitt has more personnel issues to deal with overall (and no Jayden Daniels equivalent). I’m not at all absolving Whitt, I just think Kliff has a bit more to work with.

Just felt that moving the ball on offense was generally difficult. Chicago extended a fair few of our drives with penalties, they had the blown coverage on McCaffrey, and Jayden made something out of nothing with tough scrambles pretty often. Our run game didn’t get going and pass pro was shaky, and I took that as a coaching issue more than personnel.
I didn't blame that on Kliff though. Sometimes the Jimmy's and the Joe's just don't win. I felt like our line got dominated last night. No open running lanes, quick pressure on Jayden, and a ton of deep penetration
 
all 3 turno
Still see winning 7 games max with this schedule
7-8 they may not win a game back to back all season . Dan Rivera ie Ron Quinn is doing an awful job getting the team mentally ready for games and physically reckless in games .
 
If this team wanted to make the playoffs they needed to be a one loss team at this point. The "easy" part of the schedule is done. They may go on a 5-6 game losing streak since we will be playing against really good offenses in those games. Any team with a REAL QB would have destroyed this team last night ..
 
There’s no telling what will happen in next weeks game - much less the next 5 or 6. No one said being an NFL fan would be a cakewalk.
 
Man this is a rough crowd. Go to the NFC Championship game year 1 and a 3-3 record and being compared to Ron Rivera.

Wow.

I’m not sure ‘the crowd’ is rough… but for some the hyperbole is reality
 
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Let's move past this loss and look forward to the next opportunity!!!

Where is the Dallas thread?!!!
 
If this team wanted to make the playoffs they needed to be a one loss team at this point. The "easy" part of the schedule is done. They may go on a 5-6 game losing streak since we will be playing against really good offenses in those games. Any team with a REAL QB would have destroyed this team last night ..
Nah. I don't know why people just judge you at your worst. We have been bad for so long that people are conditioned to think so negatively. We haven't played our best ball, haven't been healthy, and haven't fully clicked. When we do, I will go into pretty much every game expecting to win. There is literally no game on our schedule that is a sure loss. I believe in Jayden. He's really going to want to ball out now after the way we lost. Get Terry and Cosmi back with the line playing the way that they can, I still see us being able to get 30 plus every game. We just have to get healthy and find our rhythm
 

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