Sarge
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Your argument gives me the most pause about my position, El. Things like this discussion are why I love this board, because I can honestly learn from other people's perspectives.
My question to those who have served is, at the risk of seeming insensitive, why are your rights more important than a homosexual's rights? Why do yours take precedence over theirs? Is it because there are more of you?
First off Goaldeje, no one has a "right" to serve. Everyone meets basis qualifications. To me, terming this as a "rights" issue is to play on the activists field, something I'm not willing to do. And yes, the military is probably made up of 95% straight people, so yes, the needs of the many should outweigh the needs of the few
And if your rights are more important, are their other groups that are being discriminated against or will be discriminated against?
No one is discriminated against. The military is the most discrimination free environment I've ever seen. That's not to say that it doesn't happen, it's just not tolerated. Now, I'me speaking of discrimination based on color and gender for the most part. Due to the current wars we're in, I've seen more than a few sideways looks at muslims, but considering who we're fighting maybe that is to be expected. But all of the things I mentioned above are based on factors that for the most part, can't be helped. Most people see the homo lifestyle as a choice, and a pretty disgusting one for that matter.
And if anything, the people that are discriminated against most are white males. Oh, not in a blatent way, but if I come down on someone, all they have to do is say "Sarge said this" or "Sarge did that" and Sarge is up **** creek until I can prove otherwise. It'll be the same way with homo's, only worse.
Also, are we talking about only male homosexuals, or are lesbians OK to serve?
Only if they're hot and have friends
Lastly, I would want to make sure that the discomfort with homosexuals doesn't stem from a moral issue, which would be a hard pill to swallow if true.
Some of it does
Not trying to be combative here, just trying to learn. And El's argument really does give me a lot of pause. On the other hand, I keep reading about this survey that was sent out, wherein a large majority of active service people now responded they were comfortable with the change. How do you respond to that?
Personally, and after talking to some of my old troops that are still in, I think the survey was constructed to reach that conclusion. Most of the troops didn't even see the survey, so it only reached maybe 5% of the military. Of that 5%, only about 25% answered
Now, I can believe the kids might be more tolerant of the situation simply because of the fact that they have been exposed to the Gay is OK" agenda all of their adutl lives.