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Let me first start by saying I still believe Mike Shannahan should stay another year or two regardless of the outcome this and next season. I must also say that I have always been a Mike Shannahan fan. You can count me among those who believe, or possibly believed (after my latest revelation), that daddy's son Kyle is and will continue to be the problem in Washington. After a little thinking and searching, I'm not so sure that's entirely true anymore.
For those who didn't hear it, or read Boone's quotes post, this is a recent quote from coach:
Yes, he actually said that. The sad part is, if you listened to it you can tell he truly believes that. Could it be that our QBs are valuable to this franchise, and it's the rest of the team dragging us down? Abso****inglutely not. For him to have this thought, much less say it, shows me that his mind isn't as well developed as we were all duped into believing.
This got me wondering exactly who is the bigger problem between father and son, so I started with Mike's draft history. QBs in particular, to see how well his eye for QB talent is. In his career as a head coach, here are the QBs he drafted.....
Jeff Francis - 0 career TDs, 0-1 as a starter.
Jeff Lewis - 0 career TDs, 0 starts.
Brian Griese - Widely considered below average to mediocre, but serviceable.
Jarious Jackson - 0 career TDs, 0-1 as a starter.
Matt Mauck - 0 career TDs, 0-1 as a starter.
Bradlee Van Pelt - never started, scored 1 TD as a rusher.
Jay Cutler - Turnover machine, but semi productive/slightly above middle.
Based on the evidence, he is well below average as a QB talent scout. So if he was to draft a QB, it's almost a certainty that QB would stink up the joint. Yet, he took it one step further and put to rest any doubts about his eye for QB talent when he staked his reputation on the talent of Rex Grossman and John Beck.
So I began to look at his ability to draft other positions. To call his ability to draft a supporting cast atrocious would be a disservice to horrible coaches and talent scouts everywhere. You have likely never heard of anyone he's ever drafted, outside of a few players you can count on one hand aside from the RB position. Based on his RB drafting history, that appears to be the only position he has an eye for talent with. Terell Davis, Clinton Portis, Ryan Torain, Peyton Hillis and Roy Helu were all hand picked by Mike Shannahan.
So you throw out Mike's ability to draft talent, and you're left with what we've got. Two mediocre QBs, who he currently has no intention of replacing (or ability to given his track record). You also then have to consider where the problem lies. We all can agree that he gives Kyle way too much of a leash. To his credit, he tried hard to talk Kyle out of coming here, it's just a sham he wasn't successful. Kyle has ruined us where his father was chipping away. The playcalling is horrendous, and Kyle is as easy to read as a large print children's book for an opposing defensive coach. He never mixes it up, and nearly every snap can be seen coming a mile away for exactly the play it is. If we're down by so much as a point in the second half, the RB practically rides the pine as we go into all pass mode, with an inept QB and WR still new and learning. All this while we have perfectly capable RB watching plays collapse as they don't get the ball.
So, is Kyle Shannahan the reason our season is going down the toilet? Absolutely, without question. Is Mike Shannahan also the reason? Absolutely, also without question. We're stuck in a lose-lose situation with one coach who is never reigned in because daddy doesn't want to hurt his feelings, and two coaches that are so blind to talent, they're walking us toward a cliff and don't even realize it.
Kyle Shannahan needs to slowly walk away from Washington at the end of the season. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if he took his feeble minded father with him. There is no evidence to show that either one of them is capable of turning this franchise around. Mike has 2 Super Bowl rings from a team he inherited with one of the greatest QBs in history. They also had Terell Davis before his knees gave out, and a top notch defense. Hard not to win when handed the perfect situation. What has he done since Elway retired? He's gone 1-4 in the playoffs, and barely coached above .500 ball.
Without a doubt, Kyle Shannahan needs to go after this season. The longer he's here, the worse we'll get. If Mike can't put together a winning squad within 2 seasons of his son leaving, we cut him loose too. However, I wouldn't be heartbroken if he left sooner.
For those who didn't hear it, or read Boone's quotes post, this is a recent quote from coach:
“Like I said, I believe in both these quarterbacks. I’ve got to give them the right supporting cast. That’s my job and I’m going to get the right supporting cast for both guys to get the job done. It’s my job to give them the type of supporting cast surrounding them that can give them a chance to be successful… If you believe in people, you put your reputation on people. And I understand there are going to be some growing pains, as I said from the beginning, but I’ve got to give them the right supporting cast. If I do that, I feel very good about our guys.”
Yes, he actually said that. The sad part is, if you listened to it you can tell he truly believes that. Could it be that our QBs are valuable to this franchise, and it's the rest of the team dragging us down? Abso****inglutely not. For him to have this thought, much less say it, shows me that his mind isn't as well developed as we were all duped into believing.
This got me wondering exactly who is the bigger problem between father and son, so I started with Mike's draft history. QBs in particular, to see how well his eye for QB talent is. In his career as a head coach, here are the QBs he drafted.....
Jeff Francis - 0 career TDs, 0-1 as a starter.
Jeff Lewis - 0 career TDs, 0 starts.
Brian Griese - Widely considered below average to mediocre, but serviceable.
Jarious Jackson - 0 career TDs, 0-1 as a starter.
Matt Mauck - 0 career TDs, 0-1 as a starter.
Bradlee Van Pelt - never started, scored 1 TD as a rusher.
Jay Cutler - Turnover machine, but semi productive/slightly above middle.
Based on the evidence, he is well below average as a QB talent scout. So if he was to draft a QB, it's almost a certainty that QB would stink up the joint. Yet, he took it one step further and put to rest any doubts about his eye for QB talent when he staked his reputation on the talent of Rex Grossman and John Beck.
So I began to look at his ability to draft other positions. To call his ability to draft a supporting cast atrocious would be a disservice to horrible coaches and talent scouts everywhere. You have likely never heard of anyone he's ever drafted, outside of a few players you can count on one hand aside from the RB position. Based on his RB drafting history, that appears to be the only position he has an eye for talent with. Terell Davis, Clinton Portis, Ryan Torain, Peyton Hillis and Roy Helu were all hand picked by Mike Shannahan.
So you throw out Mike's ability to draft talent, and you're left with what we've got. Two mediocre QBs, who he currently has no intention of replacing (or ability to given his track record). You also then have to consider where the problem lies. We all can agree that he gives Kyle way too much of a leash. To his credit, he tried hard to talk Kyle out of coming here, it's just a sham he wasn't successful. Kyle has ruined us where his father was chipping away. The playcalling is horrendous, and Kyle is as easy to read as a large print children's book for an opposing defensive coach. He never mixes it up, and nearly every snap can be seen coming a mile away for exactly the play it is. If we're down by so much as a point in the second half, the RB practically rides the pine as we go into all pass mode, with an inept QB and WR still new and learning. All this while we have perfectly capable RB watching plays collapse as they don't get the ball.
So, is Kyle Shannahan the reason our season is going down the toilet? Absolutely, without question. Is Mike Shannahan also the reason? Absolutely, also without question. We're stuck in a lose-lose situation with one coach who is never reigned in because daddy doesn't want to hurt his feelings, and two coaches that are so blind to talent, they're walking us toward a cliff and don't even realize it.
Kyle Shannahan needs to slowly walk away from Washington at the end of the season. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if he took his feeble minded father with him. There is no evidence to show that either one of them is capable of turning this franchise around. Mike has 2 Super Bowl rings from a team he inherited with one of the greatest QBs in history. They also had Terell Davis before his knees gave out, and a top notch defense. Hard not to win when handed the perfect situation. What has he done since Elway retired? He's gone 1-4 in the playoffs, and barely coached above .500 ball.
Without a doubt, Kyle Shannahan needs to go after this season. The longer he's here, the worse we'll get. If Mike can't put together a winning squad within 2 seasons of his son leaving, we cut him loose too. However, I wouldn't be heartbroken if he left sooner.