If you are Josh Harris calling Adam Peters.

[Solitary Man]

OK, so maybe Josh should be making threats to fire himself in that case?

He’s a billionaire.! All hail!


He seems like a nice guy. Love Danny Roulliers impersonation.

 

[ExoDus84]

Firing Quinn and promoting Whitt is certainly one of the most ludicrous things I've heard in a while. We're down real bad if hot takes like that are floating around.

I would be for ditching both coordinators in the offseason, though. Whitt for obvious reasons, and Kliff because I feel like the offense has completely stagnated this year under his helm (yes, injuries..I know), but also because if Mike McDaniel gets canned from the Dolphins, I think he's a much brighter offensive mind and would pair well with Daniels.

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

You beat me to it... the idea of firing Quinn and Kliff and turning it over to Whitt is a move worthy of Cerrato / Snyder

Honestly, I'm not even sure they would think that's a good idea. And that's saying something.

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

I wrote why I would fire Kliff. Sorry you didn’t read it. Find another meme for your tired self.

I did read it. I understood it. And I disagreed with it. I can do all three things at the same time!

I've posted the why I'm still defending Kliff about 4 times in other threads which is why I didn't bother repeating it. But, it goes a little bit like when you have no outside threats who can beat man coverage, you basically can't do anything. I did comment you can't run into stacked boxes, which was in relation to your comment about Kliff.

So, my meme stands firmly and proudly.

 

[Solitary Man]

I did read it. I understood it. And I disagreed with it. I can do all three things at the same time!

I've posted the why I'm still defending Kliff about 4 times in other threads which is why I didn't bother repeating it. But, it goes a little bit like when you have no outside threats who can beat man coverage, you basically can't do anything. I did comment you can't run into stacked boxes, which was in relation to your comment about Kliff.

So, my meme stands firmly and proudly.

You were quoting yourself in other posts. Ok. Seems like you have beef with others who have similar opinions of mine? I don’t claim any alliances since I probably have not read them.

Im standing by my opinion that we should fire Kliff. And elevate internally our offensive coaches. Find a nice meme for me and fire it back at yourself. Make sure it really hits the mark!

 

[Faithful Fan]

Not even 2 years after Snyder sold the team and people are already longing for the days of the owner pretending he knows football making all decisions, including hastily firing coaches.

I agree with you of course, we should be patient with the group that got us to the NFC Championship last season. They have the injury excuse this year. Maybe they get healthy and bounce back.

But in fairness to the frustrated fans, this season feels the same as the Snyder years did, maybe worse because we actually had some hope. One does wish they could blame somebody or do something.

 

[RedWolf]

Adam do what you need to do I got your back

 

[Conn]

Here is what I’d say.

Adam. Fire Dan Quinn and Kliff Kingsbury. During the bye week. Have Joe Whitt coach the team for the rest of the season. You will probably fire him at the end of this season.

The lack of commitment to running the ball to protect Jayden who has no weapons is ridiculous. Fireable of Kliff. Leaving Jayden in the game late. Fireable of Dan.

Also Adam. This is totally unacceptable. From the negotiations with Terry, to the draft picks that are not working out. To the trading away of picks for older players.

Strike one Adam.

If you have to sacrifice 2026 to get younger for 2027 start doing it.

One of the worst posts I’ve read in a couple of years, impressively done.

About the exact opposite of anything I’d want out of my non-Snyder owner no matter how bad the team is.

 

[Solitary Man]

One of the worst posts I’ve read in a couple of years, impressively done.

About the exact opposite of anything I’d want out of my non-Snyder owner no matter how bad the team is.

So powerful. Ask voice of reason for one of those slow clap memes. lol.

 

[SkinsFTW]

This thread is worthy of a

 

[burgold]

Best season in thirty years followed by a year of catastrophic injuries on multiple fronts.

If I were Josh Harris, I'd probably check in on Peters and ask him what the plan was. Then, I'd say to myself that I hired this guy because he has an incredible resume, I thought he was the best available in the NFL that I could get my hands on, and take a deep breath.

The only way I'd make a move is if Peters said, "Plan? What are you talking about? There is no plan!"

As for the "fireable offense," I get the feeling I'm alone on this boat, but I think it really is routine for a starting QB to play to the final whistle regardless of the score. How often have we talked about garbage time points? It was a bad decision to leave Daniels in, but honestly, it's the decision made in the NFL almost every single time. Coaches hate to throw in the towel and raise the white flag. Players do too.

You (we're) just pissed that Daniels got hurt, but this wasn't Shanahan putting RGIII back in after half time when he couldn't even walk and the knee injury was obvious. This was a normal "never say die" football thing. To repeat myself, we don't see starters getting pulled every week in the fourth quarter despie every week there being several games where the game is out of reach by the fourth quarter. Sure, you can pick out the exception to the rule, but it's still rare.

 

[Welsh Redskin]

I think most teams would have struggled with the injury list this year. Even the better equipped teams. I always felt this year may have been a year too early, even before the injury crisis. Even more so given the approach of pre season. Going with veterans had its merits buy hasn't panned out. I know its only November but I already see the rest of the season as prep for next year and I think thas is how the GM needs to see it. Don't be afraid to trade away fading/regressing stars and build some draft capital for 26. We need to surround JD with young talent and then go hard in FA. For me Whitt has to go but I'd keep KK. With a young roster of skill players and a healthy JD I think he still has potential.

 

[Conn]

So powerful. Ask voice of reason for one of those slow clap memes. lol.

I mean, it’s not personal, but it reads like you learned nothing from 20 years of Snyder

 

[SkinsNumberOne]

Best season in thirty years followed by a year of catastrophic injuries on multiple fronts.

If I were Josh Harris, I'd probably check in on Peters and ask him what the plan was. Then, I'd say to myself that I hired this guy because he has an incredible resume, I thought he was the best available in the NFL that I could get my hands on, and take a deep breath.

The only way I'd make a move is if Peters said, "Plan? What are you talking about? There is no plan!"

As for the "fireable offense," I get the feeling I'm alone on this boat, but I think it really is routine for a starting QB to play to the final whistle regardless of the score. How often have we talked about garbage time points? It was a bad decision to leave Daniels in, but honestly, it's the decision made in the NFL almost every single time. Coaches hate to throw in the towel and raise the white flag. Players do too.

You (we're) just pissed that Daniels got hurt, but this wasn't Shanahan putting RGIII back in after half time when he couldn't even walk and the knee injury was obvious. This was a normal "never say die" football thing. To repeat myself, we don't see starters getting pulled every week in the fourth quarter despie every week there being several games where the game is out of reach by the fourth quarter. Sure, you can pick out the exception to the rule, but it's still rare.

Well, what's probably going to be hard to hear is that what's more rare, or truly rare, is getting completely dominated as badly as the team did on Sunday. I was at the game. The team was dominated in every sense. Their spirits were crushed. I've seen the team get beaten before (boy have I ever), but they didn't look like they had anything in the 3rd quarter. Frankly, the coaches didn't either. Kliff was just walking back and forth on the sidelines a lot, holding his play sheet. I was lucky to have great seats, so I had a great view... of... that. Quick sidenote, I do consider myself lucky, I always consider myself lucky to see the team I rooted for my whole life.

In the midst of that *type* of game, yes, I think there are many teams that take their QBs who they have invested so much into, out of the game. It has nothing to do (and it shouldn't) with bubble wrap. If it does, that would be a serious concern. It's just, like a lot of analytics, looking at your relative odds. Odds of good happening and odds of bad happening. When your odds of bad are much higher than your odds of good, well...

I believe Dak was pulled at some point earlier this year (https://athlonsports.com/nfl/dallas...old-back-on-being-pulled-during-cowboys-bears). So, I mean, it clearly isn't so rare.

* To be clear, though - I agree with your first part - if AP has a plan, that's fine. I would confirm he's given "some thought" and it "sounds reasonable" with a LOW bar on "reasonable." I don't care if I disagree, it just has to be reasonable. I also want to make sure HE feels empowered if that is the organizational structure I want to push.

There has to be an organizational structure I want to have, as an owner. Whether that is GM in charge, or GM and HC on equal footing under Pres, or whatever it is. Right now it's not clear what the structure is to me; it seems like almost equal footing for GM and HC, and I'm not sure that's a good thing.

 

[Boone]

No matter how bad a season gets I take a shred of comfort knowing it could always be worse. As in, if they let fans make the decisions.

 

[Boone]

I’m kind of blown away that Kingsbury is now suddenly an incompetent idiot. Nevermind that he lost every single skill position starter except Zach Ertz (who lets face it, isn’t much of a TE starter at this point) on his offensive roster for all or a significant chunk of the season.

These factors are kind of relevant guys.

 

[CuredFromBatteredFanSyndrome]

I’d tell him to look long and hard at Quinn and see if he still feels confidently that Quinn and his staff are capable of winning a Super Bowl. If that answer is not a profound yes, he should cut ties and start fresh.

 

[Boone]

Who is ‘he’? Hopefully you mean Adam Peters. Harris writes the checks otherwise he needs to stay out of it as long as AP still has his complete confidence.

 

[Boone]

There has to be an organizational structure I want to have, as an owner. Whether that is GM in charge, or GM and HC on equal footing under Pres, or whatever it is. Right now it's not clear what the structure is to me; it seems like almost equal footing for GM and HC, and I'm not sure that's a good thing.

How is it not clear?

Adam Peters is a fully empowered GM with complete control over the organization and personnel. What evidence is there this isn’t the case?

No matter how bad a season, you don’t start blowing it all up in year 2 particularly when the only other season of data had the team a win away from a Super Bowl. That did actually happen.

We seem to be losing our collective minds as a fanbase at the moment (not you SkinsNumberOne but the general fan mindset)?

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

One of the worst posts I’ve read in a couple of years, impressively done.

About the exact opposite of anything I’d want out of my non-Snyder owner no matter how bad the team is.

(I mean, he did ask for it, so who am I not to oblige?)