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First you win. Then you get good.

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I don't know who said it - except pretty sure it wasn't Gandhi - 'first you win... then you get good'.

Let's hope so, because we won, but we are definitely not 'good'.

It's been a tumultuous 2 weeks for the new era Washington Commanders. Those swept away (raises hand) in the first great offseason of the Adam Peters/Dan Quinn era have slammed resoundingly back to Earth and reality. When your roster sucks, turning over 61% of your roster and 99% of your coaching staff ain't a bad thing, but nor does it guarantee immediate improvement.

In fact 2024 has looked, on the field, a lot like 2023. That ain't good.

Rationally, many of us have preached patience. You cannot have the kind of enormous change we've witnessed and not expect some growing pains. It's just to be expected. But as a fan, it is nearly impossible not to hope for and even imagine better results. In Week 1, the Commanders rather predictably ran head on into reality. An experienced talented QB, a stacked WR corps, and a more seasoned playoff caliber team made the Commanders look exactly like what they are - an inexperienced roster of new players including a rookie starting QB lead by a newly formed coaching staff. It wasn't pretty.

In Week 2, the Commanders faced the perennial thorn in their sides, the chronically not-very-good-but-dangerous-only-against-Washington New York Giants who were already in desperation mode with a beleagured QB and a HC on an already blazing hot seat.

It, again, was not very pretty.

And yet the signs of slow progression were there if you suspend emotionality. The offensive gameplan looked semi-coherent this week. Kliff Kingsbury called plenty of quick short passes to take advantage of his young QBs accurate arm and ability to hit open WRs. The called QB runs were still there, but reigned significantly in. Brian Robinson Jr. and Austin Ekeler continued to show they are this teams offensive stalwarts, both on rushing downs and in catching balls coming out of the backfield.

Unfortunately, the new look Commander's offense made crucial mistakes in the red zone that killed potential touchdown drives and had them settling for FGs, so much so that unheralded kicker Austin Seibert set a new franchise record for made FGs in a single game.

On the bright side, rookie QB Jayden Daniels showed guts, determination, and creativity for the 2nd straight week and helped the offense move up and down the field throughout the game. Yes - the Commanders were more or less a disaster in the red zone. That will have to change if the team is to experience anything like success over the course of the season. But between the 20's, Daniels looked very poised and made a ton of plays.

Washington's defense continued to struggle, although the effort against the Giants certainly represented an improvement over the mauling they experienced at the hands of the Bucs the week before.

We managed to eke out a win today, warts and all.

How many wins will we manage in 2024 playing at the current level? Not many I'm afraid. But the good news is, this is just the beginning. The 2024 Washington Commanders have not yet sniffed who they may eventually become.

Today should have been a relatively easy win. Instead, like Boone on the golf course, the team scrambled continuously just to have a late chance in the game. A rebuilding team cannot consistently win if it beats itself with penalties and mental mistakes in crucial moments. Nor can it overcome questionable coaching decisions.

There's a lot of work to be done. But at least on this Sunday, they can do so coming on the more positive heels of a win.

First you win... then you get good.

Let's hope so!
 
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Totally agree. Couple of other positives from the game:
-Got a turnover, gave away none
-We never punted. Redzone gaffes doomed hope for TDs, but basically had their way with Giants defense
-BSJ bounced back and was solid, imo.
 
Little things:

Week 1 saw us create five drives that should have resulted in points (two missed FGs)
Week 2 saw us create seven scoring drives.

Need to start converting more of these good drives into TDs, but we are moving the ball. We are scoring points. Very few three and outs.

Big things:

I hoped that Quinn could lead a miracle one-year defensive turnaround like he did with Dallas when the Cowboys went from worst to top five. Early results suggest dashed hopes.
 
When you are on a nine game losing streak dating back to last season, and were 0-6 in the division a year ago, you take the wins however you can get them I suppose. You have to start somewhere.

Daniels, for the second straight week, showed that he is more often than not going to give this offense a chance. 3rd and 12 doesn't seem insurmountable anymore and we are generally moving the ball despite major deficiencies along the offensive line and at the receiver position.

Granted, we played probably a bottom five team in the NFL today, but we stepped up when given an opportunity to win the game on the final possession. Don't discount the fact that Daniels moved us into scoring position in a tie ball game with under two minutes to secure the win. The great ones are always on the plus side of things when it comes to being clutch in the final minutes and hopefully, today is the first of many times in his career where we see Jayden Daniels lead us to victory with the game on the line.

2024 is all about #5s development and the early returns are pretty promising I would say.
 
For those who are upset at the offense for not punching it in, consider 2 things:

They had 6 red zone opportunities.
Tres way didn’t have a punt today.

The offense has a lot of promise. It will come. But it’s going to be a process.

We’ll see how long the process is

Also, the Giants have been a thorn in the side of this organization since … forever. Even during the glory years, it was the giants who were the hard team to beat.

Get a win anyway you can.
 
Couldn't agree more Boone... tried to relay that same message while we were watching it.
 
Yes - and it was appreciated brother. Sometimes I have to remove myself from the moment to have a more reasonable reaction.
 
We play to win the game so no complaints from me. Give me an ugly win any day over a pretty loss.

And we don't have to listen to another MISERY MONDAY on the Junkies either.
You never have to listen to the junkies ever, if we’re being honest.
 
You never have to listen to the junkies ever, if we’re being honest.
I'm retired so I need to listen to some sports talk. Wish we could have Ken Beatrice on the air waves. I loved listening to that guy years ago.

I agree though, the Junkies have run their course. Their tired bit is not even funny anymore.
 
Generally I agree.

One trouble spot for me so far - we are getting almost no contribution in the early going from the 2024 class outside of Daniels.

For a team looking to build off the draft we aren’t seeing to this point that emerging middle to late round gem that comes in and plays off the jump, akin to a Kam Curl.

So far:

Daniels - much better second game. Needs offensive line to give the kid a chance in the red zone. All those penalties? Mental mistakes.

Newton - active, has not gotten on field yet.

Sainristil - active, poor game against Tampa, better yesterday against lesser competition.

Sinnott - active, still doesn’t have a catch after being a guy Peters was gushing over getting in April.

Coleman - active, played a cameo role in Tampa, yesterday not much.

McCaffrey - looked lost against Tampa, was watching yesterday.

McGee - on IR

Hampton - inactive

Baptiste - active, bench role.

So, overall for draft where Washington was picking high in these rounds and multiple early picks, not a lot of impact so far.

And all of this against a backdrop again on a roster with some pretty big holes on it.

You look at Erick All for the Bengals at TE or a couple of middle picks starting for the Texans yesterday on a playoff team and wonder why our #2s and #3s don’t look ready to at least get on field and show they belong.
 
Whereas in times past I've felt sometimes that our Red Zone issues are insurmountable and to do with limited QBs or bad play calling, this year I really feel like it's simply due to lack of time playing together. I think these issues will slowly sort themselves out over the course of the next few weeks.

Yes, I know JD hasn't thrown a TD yet, but he also hasn't turned the ball over, or really looked like a threat to do so. Heineke and Howell sometimes had my heart giving palpitations waiting for that next Interception. Jayden doesn't make me feel like that. In fact he makes me very pleased. Have you seen Caleb Williams stat line over 2 weeks? Here's what ESPN said...

"Williams finished 23-of-37 for 174 yards, no touchdowns, 2 interceptions and a 51.0 passer rating. The Bears had no answer to Houston's blitz and failed to protect Williams, who was sacked seven times. After going 0-for-5 under pressure against the Titans, Williams was 2-of-9 for 20 yards with two interceptions while pressured against Houston."

Maybe still early days yet, but Jayden has really excelled as a rookie thus far.

I think as he gels with the WRs and with Kingsbury, we'll see this offense take off...at least as far as the O Line and WRs can take us. The results are promising so far though. We now look like we have a kicker that's reliable, at least under 45 yards, and if we can sort out those RZ issues we should be converting more drives into bigger points. It's promising that we've rarely seen Tress on the field (not at all this week!) and that we're creating chances with multiple drives into scoring position. The results will come, I'm confident of that.

Our Defense on the other hand... That's giving me conniption fits! I think it'll improve a little. I can't see how Payne and Allen can play worse, and I hope our communication issues settle down. I think Sainristil will improve as he beds in. But on the whole I think we're in for a tough year on D. I don't think we can fix the issues we have on the secondary until the draft/FA next year. So this is what it is.

If our Offense can elevate and start scoring regularly on trips into the RZ then I see a bunch of shootouts in our future.
 
As for our rooks... Too early to judge yet really.

Daniels I talked about above. I think he's been really impressive so far, especially when you compare him to his rookie peers from other teams.

I think we'll see Newton soon. He could have a huge impact on a line that's underperforming. Fingers crossed.

Sainristil I think is going through the rookie pains. I like his hustle and I think he'll be fine.

Sinnott and McCaffrey I think as symptomatic of the issues we're having all over the passing game. I mean Terry only got what, 17 yards or something last night. There's a lot to fix in the passing game, and I suspect they'll stat having more impact as that gets fixed.

Shame about McGee. :( He looked so good in preseason.

Coleman I suspect they're just easing into action. He's looked pretty good at times though. He speed and agility is pretty impressive.

Hampton and Baptiste have been a bit invisible.

Interesting to see what they all look like by midseason once the team settles down into what they'll be moving forward.
 
One thing I didn't really think about was the final drive.

How often have we seen a Washington quarterback with less than two minutes to drive the field for a tying or winning score shit the bed? How many of them have thrown a pick, lost on downs, or just left so much time on the clock that even after they scored that the other team marched down and stole our victory?

That end of game drive was a thing of beauty. It was perfect. It had the big play. It had the little plays. They took the clock down to zero. Daniels even tried his best to fall in bounds on his last scramble. No mental errors.

For all the complaints (and so many are deserved especially on defense and on the o-line), no team in the league could have asked for a better game ending drive.
 
ST - who has criticised Daniels? I have not seen a single negative comment...
 
ST - who has criticised Daniels? I have not seen a single negative comment...
My only criticism of Daniels was that I think he looked to run too much at first. He bailed out so often in the first quarter and a half. I think that blast to his ribs knocked some sense into him. After that, I think he settled down and decided to play quarterback.

I hope that something clicked after that. I think it did.
 
I was a bit critical of the draft picks OTHER than Daniels, mostly because for a team with 6 picks in the top 100, only two of those players - Daniels and Sainristil - have gotten on the field and performed in a starting role or as major contributors.

It doesn't mean these other players won't develop in time, just a cautionary note given the lack of quality starters across the board and obvious opportunities to get out there and lay a claim.

I watched several rookies (non first round picks) come in and make some major contributions for the Bengals and Texans in the late games I watched yesterday, and these clubs had far fewer open spots to compete for.
 
It's too early too pass judgment on this year's crop of rookies, but I think there were five players they hoped to get significant contributions from this year: Daniels, Newton, Sanristel, McCaffrey, and Coleman

Daniels and Sanristel are out there as is McCaffrey. Coleman is too though has been limited by injury. Newton has been absent which I think might have been expected. I can't argue that I would have liked to see more immediate results, especially from McCaffrey and Sanristel (though I really don't know if he's been good or bad just that the secondary as a whole has disappointed,) but they are on the field.

From what I've heard/seen

Daniels: Is performing well for a rookie QB
Sanristil: (I don't know)
McCaffrey: A few catches, but largely invisible.
Coleman: I've heard good things and the line is a little better than last year, but he seems to be on a limited snap count. Did he get hurt again this week?
Newton: Is getting closer to being activated. They are taking their time with him.
McGee: IR
Others: Haven't really noticed them. Though I've seen them on the field, I think.
 
I think what Bulldog is pointing out with the rookies goes back to what was a theme in the game chat: preparedness. And at times, even the vet players don’t seem prepared. That’s coaching.
And IMO, some of it does look suspect.
 

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