~* Commanders @ Ravens - Joint Practice Reporting *~

[Kalu44]

Need to re-shuffle the deck. If that means sign Decker at LT and move Coleman to guard, so be it. That is nothing against Coleman, but we just need to add another quality starter. Here is to hoping a decent center falls from the sky or by some miracle Nick Allegretti gets healthy and can play at a high level.

 

[Primus Porcus]

this is just different

 

[skinsinparadise]

Yeah i wouldn't go as far as this point below. But its been a rough week. Why the summer isn't a disaster -- Jayden, Diggs, and the Flores scheme on defense. The issue seems to be the O line. Maybe a trade? Maybe a lucky release they can exploit?

 

[Always Commander Never Captain]

This is what our rookie OC has to work with. If it's as bad as everyone is making it out to be, it's going to be ugly when it's time to judge whether he has a future on this team.

Yeah, like our defense has pieces to let us know about Daronte Jones.

But the offense? I don't understand the repeated mantra by the team that "Jayden is good enough to make it work", even after seeing him get hurt again and again when he tries to drag a crappy team to victory.

Trading for Tunsil? Great. Shifting Coleman to RT, fantastic...wait...that didn't happen? We instead drafted a light footed OT in a Guards body, that's not physical enough to make his light feet matter in the run game, and can't move inside to Guard...cause he'd get bullied by DTs, and his arm length/wingspan are short enough most Edges get into his chest with ease? Like he changed his body to add more muscle and drop fat...but that didn't actually change how he played. How we didn't trade back in the 2025 draft for more picks is baffling. Instead we fucked up the offensive line by spending a 1st on someone without a clear position, then moving a promising OT to a position he's less suited for. Removing Center depth just because despite it giving barely any cap savings.

Bringing back Wylie and Alegretti on those cheap deals? Good. Spending nothing else on the OL? What?

We've got the 4th most cap space in 2026, and projected to have the 6th most in 2027. We have a great QB on a rookie contract. THIS IS THE WINDOW. How are they not trying to capitalize on this?

 

[Conn]

After the Dolphins practice I said the Ravens would be the real test, as far as these things go (and I think it’s pretty far). Not good. I’ve opined enough this offseason about everything from Quinn to the roster construction to the cap usage to Peter’s drafts…so it’s been said, and people are saying it well in here as well. Not good.

 

[lovemaskins]

We sure as hell have not loaded up the team like we should have to support JD. Who knows if he's going to resign here or if he even wants to?

That’s what’s been so frustrating. As fans we know it’s the right thing to do, but Peters doesn’t seem to have the sense of urgency.

Between that, trading away draft picks, and the now debacle at Center, I’m running out of patience.

Maybe we’re all wrong and we win 10 games with the David Blough razzle dazzle, but right now, it doesn’t look good.

 

[skinsinparadise]

 

[ExoDus84]

Need to re-shuffle the deck. If that means sign Decker at LT and move Coleman to guard, so be it. That is nothing against Coleman, but we just need to add another quality starter. Here is to hoping a decent center falls from the sky or by some miracle Nick Allegretti gets healthy and can play at a high level.

I have no idea why people keep beating the drum for Decker. All 32 teams have decided not to sign him at this late stage of training camp. Our current OC knows him well. If we haven't brought him in at this point, chances are the staff just doesn't think he has it anymore or doesn't think he'll be a clear upgrade over our existing depth.

If guys that know him well are passing, that should tell you something.

 

[Always Commander Never Captain]

Yeah i wouldn't go as far as this point below. But its been a rough week. Why the summer isn't a disaster -- Jayden, Diggs, and the Flores scheme on defense. The issue seems to be the O line. Maybe a trade? Maybe a lucky release they can exploit?

The depressing reports have been coming fast and furious since Day 1 but they have been hyper focused on OL and WR. Last off-season we had a lot of inconsistent reports that gave questionmarks to just about every position. I don't think questionmarks about our defense in 2025 training camp are anywhere near repeated in 2026.

Anyone remember how desperate the reporters sounded for a need to get Terry's contract dispute over with? The WR issue in 2025 training camp was far worse.

 

[Kalu44]

I have no idea why people keep beating the drum for Decker. All 32 teams have decided not to sign him at this late stage of training camp. Our current OC knows him well. If we haven't brought him in at this point, chances are the staff just doesn't think he has it anymore or doesn't think he'll be a clear upgrade over our existing depth.

If guys that know him well are passing, that should tell you something.

That’s a fair take. However, it could be a bunch of other reasons too. Maybe he is asking for too much, which should not be a hindrance to AP. Insert another name for Decker (like Glasgow) and I’m fine with that. You need to upgrade the talent on the line, because they are pretty bad as a collective unit. Gosh, fans and media had to beg AP for about 5 weeks to sign Stefon Diggs. What takes him so long to react to issues?

 

[bh32]

AP owns this mess and should be fired if this season is a losing one.

 

[heisenberg]

Well last year we all had the warm and fuzzies and it sucked so this year, 🤷‍♂️

 

[SkinsInSATX]

Well last year we all had the warm and fuzzies and it sucked so this year, 🤷‍♂️

....we shouldn't be surprised! Finished the sentence for you bud lol.

 

[36ST21]

I have been around for a very long time, but I have never had such a strong sense of impending doom.
Not about the team crapping the bed once again; I think all of us are more than used to that by now.
I am genuinely worried about the effects on JD5's longterm physical and mental health playing behind this OL, particularly with the early season meat-grinder of a schedule.

Part of me really wants to see this happen:

1. Put JD5 on season-long IR with a non career-threatening "injury" now
2. Let the Greek Cannon (upgraded from rifle) start all year to ascertain his potential ( if any) and maximize draft position
3. Do whatever it takes to get J. Smith (2 FRPs may do it) in the draft
4. Use all other draft capital and FA resources on OL and secondary
5. Start the 2027 season from a position of strength

 

[skinsinparadise]

OWINGS MILLS, Md. — What was likely the last live play of Jayden Daniels’ preseason showed exactly why there’s explosive potential in every Washington Commanders snap. Yes, two Baltimore Ravens bore down on Washington’s third-year quarterback.

“It’s always a lot of ‘he said, she said,’ sack or not,” Daniels said.

...So outside of a few completions to receiver Terry McLaurin, a couple of scrambles by Daniels and the long toss to Williams, Washington struggled to move the ball.

...The second series was a particular struggle: A Daniels keeper was followed by a drop by tight end Chig Okonkwo on a low throw. Gulbin then had a bad snap exchange with Daniels, a play that was followed by two passes that were batted down.

“We have a lot of things to fix,” said Brandon Coleman, who played left tackle in Tunsil’s absence on Wednesday. “We know that.”

Commanders’ Jayden Daniels, offense struggle against Ravens: ‘Not the best day’

Washington's inexperienced offensive line was overwhelmed by Baltimore in a joint practice.

www.nytimes.com

 

[NickyJ]

I have been around for a very long time, but I have never had such a strong sense of impending doom.
Not about the team crapping the bed once again; I think all of us are more than used to that by now.
I am genuinely worried about the effects on JD5's longterm physical and mental health playing behind this OL, particularly with the early season meat-grinder of a schedule.

Part of me really wants to see this happen:

1. Put JD5 on season-long IR with a non career-threatening "injury" now
2. Let the Greek Cannon (upgraded from rifle) start all year to ascertain his potential ( if any) and maximize draft position
3. Do whatever it takes to get J. Smith (2 FRPs may do it) in the draft
4. Use all other draft capital and FA resources on OL and secondary
5. Start the 2027 season from a position of strength

My negativity has increased dramatically in the past week, but giving up on 2026 is simply not possible for the team. Quinn's job is on the line this season. Peters' should be depending on how bad the season could go. This is the go big or go home season.

And that's all aside from the rest of the players whose jobs are on the line no matter what kind of season it is. They'd lose the locker room, the media, the fans, and every potential player who could sign here.

 

[36ST21]

My negativity has increased dramatically in the past week, but giving up on 2026 is simply not possible for the team. Quinn's job is on the line this season. Peters' should be depending on how bad the season could go. This is the go big or go home season.

And that's all aside from the rest of the players whose jobs are on the line no matter what kind of season it is. They'd lose the locker room, the media, the fans, and every potential player who could sign here.

I understand your point of view and I understand why what I wrote could never happen. That being said, I have followed this franchise for decades prior to the Quinn/Peters regime, and the happy Gods willing, I will continue to do so for decades after they are footnotes in history. I don't think either one of them has proven to be a net asset to the team and I am not invested in their professional fates.

 

[method man]

That’s a fair take. However, it could be a bunch of other reasons too. Maybe he is asking for too much, which should not be a hindrance to AP. Insert another name for Decker (like Glasgow) and I’m fine with that. You need to upgrade the talent on the line, because they are pretty bad as a collective unit. Gosh, fans and media had to beg AP for about 5 weeks to sign Stefon Diggs. What takes him so long to react to issues?

Not just that but many of these vets would rather just skip camp and preseason to avoid going through the grind. To your point on price, Decker is able to command premium dollar at the end of preseason once the chips fall regarding starting tackle injuries. I haven't been tracking all the teams but I don't think any other starting left tackles have gone down for the year so we are probably his best fit.

 

[Skintime]

I have been around for a very long time, but I have never had such a strong sense of impending doom.
Not about the team crapping the bed once again; I think all of us are more than used to that by now.
I am genuinely worried about the effects on JD5's longterm physical and mental health playing behind this OL, particularly with the early season meat-grinder of a schedule.

Part of me really wants to see this happen:

1. Put JD5 on season-long IR with a non career-threatening "injury" now
2. Let the Greek Cannon (upgraded from rifle) start all year to ascertain his potential ( if any) and maximize draft position
3. Do whatever it takes to get J. Smith (2 FRPs may do it) in the draft
4. Use all other draft capital and FA resources on OL and secondary
5. Start the 2027 season from a position of strength

5 Fire DQ and AP

 

[Primus Porcus]

Folks, there are plenty of threads that include the discussions about AP, roster building, and whatever. This one is specifically about the joint practice today. Let's stop hijacking threads