Burner's Burning Questions: Free Agency, Mocks, Camps, OTAs, Roster Predictions, 2020

[Burgundy Burner]

 

[Kel Varnsen]

I’d take a 2021 first rounder for Williams if that’s what it takes. It seems that the 2020 first round ship sailed a long time ago. But 2021 could be viable.

 

[Burgundy Burner]

It just occurred to me and hit my mug right square in the face. Ron Rivera probably took control of the Big Trent situation before today and that is why we see a lot of smoke right now.

Just a guess. But it makes a lot of sense. Right?

 

[Primus Porcus]

If the Redskins get a first or second round pick (or say, a pair of 3's) - a lot of folks who've claimed the Skins have mishandled and bungled this, predicting the best we'd get was a 4th round pick or worse, are going to be very quiet

I'll eat my plate of crow....

 

[Boone]

It just occurred to me and hit my mug right square in the face. Ron Rivera probably took control of the Big Trent situation before today and that is why we see a lot of smoke right now.

Just a guess. But it makes a lot of sense. Right?

While I get that Rivera 'taking control' would make a trade easier from the vantage point of Williams and his agent no longer controlling which teams are sought after as a trade partner, no team is going to sign off on a trade unless TW agrees to a future deal, right? So I'm not really understanding how much 'control' Rivera actually has here? Seems like Williams would still wield significant sway on what happens...

 

[Primus Porcus]

While I get that Rivera 'taking control' would make a trade easier from the vantage point of Williams and his agent no longer controlling which teams are sought after as a trade partner, no team is going to sign off on a trade unless TW agrees to a future deal, right? So I'm not really understanding how much 'control' Rivera actually has here? Seems like Williams would still wield significant sway on what happens...

Offers have likely been made for an extension to this point, so chances are Rivera knows what Trent would like to make. I doubt the Agent even spent time trying to negotiate the compensation for the Redskins. We may have been offered a 4th by a team that will sign Williams and that was reported to the Redskins and when we said no, that's where it ended. There was no negotiation there.

 

[Ax]

If the Redskins get a first or second round pick (or say, a pair of 3's) - a lot of folks who've claimed the Skins have mishandled and bungled this, predicting the best we'd get was a 4th round pick or worse, are going to be very quiet

Not me. I'll laugh my ass off at the fools we just shafted in the trade.

I'm like Kel, a 2021 1st or 2nd at least seems more plausible. But if someone wants to do it for a high pick in this draft, how could any Redskin fan NOT be giddy about it. Who gives a rats ass who was right, or wrong. Getting as much for the POS as possible is all that matters. Who cares if some message board schmuck like myself would accept a gift card from Walmart just to be rid of the distraction.

 

[fansince62]

What if it's a late first and Tua is still available?

You a bad man! I'd draft Tua after figuring out why he dropped so low (i.e., better already have done their homework on the medical side; otyherwise, I still trade.).

 

[Boone]

1) It hasn’t happened yet
2) I am not right often enough to ever gloat
3) I simply think it would be another illustration of how frequently Redskins media, Skins fans, and conventional wisdom on social media are flat out wrong.
4) See 1)

 

[Burgundy Burner]

I updated the prospects list that I posted this morning (a couple of pages ago). A new name appeared a short time ago and it was reported earlier. A.J. Green - a corner from Okla. St. Also update the Chase Young virtual connection meeting that occurred a few days ago.

 

[Burgundy Burner]

Burner’s Burning Questions: Free Agency, Mocks, Camps, OTAs, Roster Predictions, 2020​

Greetings from BBQ to everyone here at BGO. We hope your week is going well. Hello to everyone on social media. We’d love to have you as a member here and become part of the family. You are our honored guests, so sit back and enjoy.

The 2020 NFL draft arrives tomorrow night! We’re getting closer in this process and now we have a few ideas about what the team needs at this juncture. The process of team building never ends and BBQ is about to take a look at what could happen in the draft this week.

Today, we bring you the latest mock of the 2020 offseason. The mocks have varied throughout the offseason and we will continue to add/subtract players to/from the list as any relevant information becomes available. The Redskins currently have picks in rounds one, three, four, five, and seven. They also have a compensatory pick in the fourth round and an extra seventh round pick via a trade.

Will BBQ match or surpass the success that it had with the 2019 mocks? It will be difficult and very challenging, but it is a task that we embrace. With that kind of success, we truly believe it helps the members of BGO to focus on the players who are prospects that the Redskins are seeking. It feels good to provide everyone here with the kind of service you expect from BBQ. Ok, it is time to look at the prospects!

We will produce three mocks this week. We will also post abbreviated mocks prior to day two and day three of the draft.

Without any further delays, let’s take our latest look at the 2020 draft with this mock.

Upcoming Dates
- Days until the virus passes: Hopefully, very soon
- Days until the 2020 NFL Draft: 1
- Days until the Redskins season opener: 144

Pre-Draft: Trade
The Redskins trade Trent Williams for a fourth round selection.

Round One: Chase Young, Edge/DE, Ohio St. – 6’5, 265
Arguably the best overall player in the draft is there for the taking and the Redskins turn in the (virtual) card. Young is the next great pass rusher in a program that has produced some incredible talent at the edge position in recent years. The impact would be immediate. A quarterback’s nightmare. Excellent run defender. Perfectly tailored for a 4-3 defense.
Other Possible Picks:
Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia
Jerry Jeudy, WR, Alabama
Isaiah Simmons, ILB, Clemson
Tristan Wirfs, OT, Iowa
Jeffrey Okudah, CB, Ohio St.
Jedrick Wills, OT, Alabama

Round Two: Possible Prospects
The Redskins lack a second round selection, but here is a list of players who could be targeted if they can acquire a pick in this round.
Noah Igbinoghene, CB, Auburn
Tee Higgins, WR, Clemson
A.J. Terrell, CB, Clemson
Justin Jefferson, WR, Louisiana St.
Damon Arnette, CB, Ohio St.
Lucas Niang, OT, Texas Christian
Trevon Diggs, CB, Alabama
Cameron Dantzler, CB, Mississippi St.

Round Three: Michael Pittman, WR, Southern Cal – 6’4”, 220
The son of former NFL running back by the same name, Pittman is a physically strong receiver and imposes his will on defensive backs from the X position, especially on intermediate routes. Superb blocker at all levels. Not the fastest receiver, but tends to win contested passes and his size makes for the perfect “jump ball” situations. Pittman is a possession type of receiver, but he can line up at slot in certain formations. He can run all of the tree routes. Solid red zone target. Ability to shine on special teams duties – if needed.
Other Possible Picks:
Isaiah Wilson, OT, Georgia
Cole Kmet, TE, Notre Dame
Bryan Edwards, WR, South Carolina
Austin Jackson, OT, Southern California
Jaylon Johnson, CB, Utah
Adam Trautman, TE, Dayton
Prince Tega Wanogho, OT, Auburn

Round Four: Saahdiq Charles, OT, Louisiana St. – 6’4”, 320
Saahdiq Charles has been busy this offseason. He has added twenty pounds of bulk and muscle to his frame. The biggest knock on Charles was his lack of strength, but his offseason regimen has scouts re-assessing that claim now. He is mobile and while some of his techniques need minor adjustments, this Cajun County Bayou Bengal is definitely ready for life at the next level. Could become a starter by mid-season, maybe sooner.
Other Possible Picks:
K.J. Hill, WR, Ohio St.
Brycen Hopkins, TE, Purdue
Collin Johnson, WR, Texas
Ben Bartch, OT, St. John
Chase Claypool, WR, Notre Dame
Solomon Kindley, OG, Georgia
K'Von Wallace, SS/FS, Clemson
Lamar Jackson, CB, Nebraska

Round Four: Troy Pride, CB, Notre Dame – 5’11”, 195
Troy Pride is a talented corner – as talented as they come, but he lacks some confidence and this hinders him from reaching his lofty potential. Enter the Redskins. Good coaching at the next level can help him. Solid in man and zone coverage. Pride is blessed with supreme athleticism and is able to lock down receivers. His talent is on the outside and not as a slot. He is not overly aggressive or physical, but has the tools, size, and speed (4.4 40) to do so. Again, good coaching will elevate his potential to an elite level.

Round Four, Comp Pick: Antonio Gibson, RB/WR/KR, Memphis – 6’1”, 225
So anyway, is he a running back, wide receiver, or kick returner? Gibson was decent at each position a few years ago in community college. Two seasons ago, he saw little action in his first season as a Tiger. Then, 2019 happened. 38 receptions at 19 yards a catch with eight touchdowns. 33 carries at 11 yards per run and four touchdowns. 28 yards per return and one touchdown. How about his 4.39 40 speed? Explosive in all three phases – his versatility is scary good. Does Gibson remind Ron Rivera of Christian McCaffrey? Only one season of production hurts his stock, but Gibson would provide good value here.

Round Five: Colby Parkinson, TE, Stanford – 6’7”, 255
Looking for another sizable tight end? Look no further than Colby Parkinson. He can play the Y, H, and F positions effectively. Fundamentally sound blocker – good mechanics and flexibility, but needs to finish those blocks a bit better. Positions himself well between the defender and the quarterback. Excellent red zone and “jump ball” target. Did not drop a single pass in 2019. Slow 40 time (4.77) will limit his draft stock. In certain passing schemes, he can line up in the slot and outside for slants and various hook patterns. This versatility will keep him from dropping into the late rounds.
Other Possible Picks:
Jacob Breeland, TE, Oregon
Julian Blackmon, SS/FS, Utah
K.J. Hill, WR, Ohio St.
Antonio Gandy-Golden, WR, Liberty
Albert Okwuegbunam, TE, Missouri
Thad Moss, TE, LSU

Round Six: Possible Prospects
The Redskins lack a sixth round selection, but here is a list of players who could be targeted if they can acquire a pick in this round.
Mitchell Wilcox, TE, South Florida
Shaquille Quarterman, ILB, Miami
Charlie Heck, OT, North Carolina
Tanner Muse, FS/ILB/Hybrid, Clemson
Terence Steele, OT, Texas Tech
Joe Reed, WR, Virginia
Cheyenne O'Grady, TE, Arkansas

Round Seven: Myles Dorn, FS/SS, North Carolina – 6’2”, 205
Myles Dorn is a three year starter for the Tar Heels and that could serve him well at the next level. Prototypical size for a free safety, but a bit slender for a box player. He plays well closer to the line, but has varying degrees of success as a deep safety. Good speed, but can take poor angles further away from the line. Would need to make the team as a special teams player. Practice squad candidate.
Other Possible Picks:
Alex Taylor, OT, South Carolina St.
James Proche, WR, SMU
Jared Pinkney, TE, Vanderbilt
Trey Adams, OT, Washington
Reggie Floyd, FS, Virginia Tech
Steven Montez, QB, Colorado
Devin Asiasi, TE, UCLA
Tyre Phillips, OT/OG, Mississippi St.

Round Seven: Cameron Clark, OG/OT, North Carolina-Charlotte – 6’4”, 310
Cameron Clark is one of those hidden small school gems that has managed to gain only minimal notoriety as an NFL prospect. However, the Redskins seem to be very interested in his services. They had meetings with him at the East-West Shrine game and there was a virtual connection recently. Clark was considered by some to be a bit slender for an offensive linemen, but he has added thirty pounds of muscle in recent months. He dominated the line of scrimmage against Clemson early in the 2019 season. Some analysts believe Clark could be a guard at the next level, but don’t be surprised if he is a starting right tackle within a year or two.

Undrafted Free Agent Prospects
This list will continue to evolve and change in the coming weeks as the Redskins meet with many players who will not be drafted.

Gage Cervenka, OG, Clemson
Rico Dowdle, RB, South Carolina
Mohamed Barry, ILB, Nebraska
Jeremiah Dinson, FS, Auburn
Shea Patterson, QB, Michigan
Naquan Jones, DT, Michigan St.
John Penisini, DT, Utah
Robert Hunt, OG, Louisiana-Lafayette
John Hightower, WR, Boise St.
Riley Neal, QB, Vanderbilt
Keith Washington, CB, West Virginia
Charlie Taumoepeau, TE, Portland St.
Kelly Bryant, QB, Missouri
Jordan Glasgow, ILB/SS, Michigan
Lawrence Cager, WR, Georgia
Jabril Cox, ILB, North Dakota St.

Additional Notes
The fourth round comp pick comes from the deal that sent Jamison Crowder to the Jets. All other possible comp picks have been canceled out.

Free agency could continue to change some of the targets that we see in current mocks. For now, we can only speculate based on current team needs and pertinent information.

There is your second of three full mocks this week. We will have abbreviated mocks on Friday and Saturday. We’re almost there.

 

[Ax]

You're a beast, BB. Thanks for all you do to educate this college clueless bystander.

I do wish you had some love for my sleeper pick, TE Matthew Wilkerson.
But my research took all of 10 minutes. It's like betting a 50-1 horse at the track.
Probably doesn't have a shot. But the payoff if I guess right will be huge! lol

 

[Win4us]

Alright here’s my final mock stab. The extra 4th is for Trent
1. Chase Young-DE

3. Isaiah Wilson-T

4. Gabriel Davis-WR

4. Albert Okwuegbunam-TE

4. Julian Blackmon-FS

5. AJ Dillon-RB/FB

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7. Keith Washington-CB
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7. Ben Cleveland-T/G
https://youtu.be/K9YtxmTd4RU

Are the final 3 players videos showing as a thumbnail link?

 

[Burgundy Burner]

This is what I am talking about!

Someone suggesting a sleeper prospect - it could happen!

Someone posting a mock of their own - and it could be more accurate than anything put out by BBQ!

Well done, gents!

 

[Win4us]

The only player on my list that’s a guarantee is Young. Hell most of the rest are probably flagged for something or other and will be UDFA’s, lol

 

[Ax]

Goooooood Morning BGOOOOOOOOO!

Happy, "You've Never Heard So Much BS In All Your Life" Day!

I'll kick things off with a little diddy I heard on Sheehan's show this morning. Some guy who he credits as being right on a lot of inside Redskins stuff, reported last night that a deal with Cleveland was done. They get Mo Money, and we get this years 3rd or 4th. And next years 2nd.

If true...…………...SOLD!

 

[Kel Varnsen]

I hope that is true. I just want this saga over with.

 

[Burgundy Burner]

Burner’s Burning Questions: Free Agency, Mocks, Camps, OTAs, Roster Predictions, 2020​

Greetings from BBQ to everyone here at BGO. We hope your week is going well. Hello to everyone on social media. We’d love to have you as a member here and become part of the family. You are our honored guests, so sit back and enjoy.

The 2020 NFL draft arrives tonight! For many months we have been patiently waiting for this moment and now everyone is about to see who will be selected by the Redskins.

Today, we bring you the final full mock of the 2020 offseason. The mocks have varied throughout this offseason and now we try to put forth one final prognostication for you. The Redskins currently have picks in rounds one, three, four, five, and seven. They also have a compensatory pick in the fourth round and an extra seventh round pick via a trade.

Will BBQ match or surpass the success that it had with the 2019 mocks? It will be difficult and very challenging, but it is a task that we embrace. With that kind of success, we truly believe it helps the members of BGO to focus on the players who are prospects that the Redskins are seeking. It feels good to provide everyone here with the kind of service you expect from BBQ. Ok, it is time to look at the prospects!

We will produce abbreviated mocks tomorrow and Saturday as the draft enters days two and three.

Tonight, the chase of a dream for a special young man will take a new course. A franchise has renewed hope. A new front office and coaching staff begins a journey together. The fan base is excited once again. BBQ has enjoyed this offseason with everyone here. Thank you for making this voyage together a fun adventure. Let’s do it again next year!

Without any further delays, let’s take a look at the 2020 draft with this final full mock.

Upcoming Dates
- Days until the virus passes: Hopefully, very soon
- Days until the 2020 NFL Draft: Today
- Days until the Redskins season opener: 143

Pre-Draft: Trade
The Redskins trade Trent Williams for two third round selections – one in 2020 and the other in 2021.

Round One: Chase Young, Edge/DE, Ohio St. – 6’5, 265
Arguably the best overall player in the draft is there for the taking and the Redskins turn in the (virtual) card. Young is the next great pass rusher in a program that has produced some incredible talent at the edge position in recent years. The impact would be immediate. A quarterback’s nightmare. Excellent run defender. Perfectly tailored for a 4-3 defense.
Other Possible Picks:
Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia
Jerry Jeudy, WR, Alabama
Isaiah Simmons, ILB, Clemson
Tristan Wirfs, OT, Iowa
Jeffrey Okudah, CB, Ohio St.
Jedrick Wills, OT, Alabama

Round Two: Possible Prospects
The Redskins lack a second round selection, but here is a list of players who could be targeted if they can acquire a pick in this round.
Noah Igbinoghene, CB, Auburn
Tee Higgins, WR, Clemson
A.J. Terrell, CB, Clemson
Justin Jefferson, WR, Louisiana St.
Damon Arnette, CB, Ohio St.
Lucas Niang, OT, Texas Christian
Trevon Diggs, CB, Alabama
Cameron Dantzler, CB, Mississippi St.

Round Three: Jaylon Johnson, CB, Utah – 6’0”, 193
Jaylon Johnson could’ve risen a bit with a solid pro day, but the league ended everything prior to the draft. Slightly slow 40 speed hurts his stock. Johnson is an impressive corner with decent quickness to the ball and he has solid coverage skills. Good one on one ability and solid in zone coverages. Johnson’s jumping skills affords him the opportunity to eliminate “jump ball” situations, especially in the red zone. He focuses on the quarterbacks a bit too much at times and loses sight of the receiver. This also leads to being vulnerable to play action passes on occasion.
Other Possible Picks:
Isaiah Wilson, OT, Georgia
Cole Kmet, TE, Notre Dame
Bryan Edwards, WR, South Carolina
Austin Jackson, OT, Southern California
Adam Trautman, TE, Dayton
Prince Tega Wanogho, OT, Auburn

Round Three: Michael Pittman, WR, Southern Cal – 6’4”, 220
The son of former NFL running back by the same name, Pittman is a physically strong receiver and imposes his will on defensive backs from the X position, especially on intermediate routes. Superb blocker at all levels. Not the fastest receiver, but tends to win contested passes and his size makes for the perfect “jump ball” situations. Pittman is a possession type of receiver, but he can line up at slot in certain formations. He can run all of the tree routes. Solid red zone target. Ability to shine on special teams duties – if needed.

Round Four: Saahdiq Charles, OT, Louisiana St. – 6’4”, 320
Saahdiq Charles has been busy this offseason. He has added twenty pounds of bulk and muscle to his frame. The biggest knock on Charles was his lack of strength, but his offseason regimen has scouts re-assessing that claim now. He is mobile and while some of his techniques need minor adjustments, this Cajun County Bayou Bengal is definitely ready for life at the next level. Could become a starter by mid-season, maybe sooner.
Other Possible Picks:
Brycen Hopkins, TE, Purdue
Collin Johnson, WR, Texas
Troy Pride, CB, Notre Dame – 5’11”, 195
Ben Bartch, OT, St. John
Chase Claypool, WR, Notre Dame
Solomon Kindley, OG, Georgia
K'Von Wallace, SS/FS, Clemson
Lamar Jackson, CB, Nebraska

Round Four, Comp Pick: Antonio Gibson, RB/WR/KR, Memphis – 6’1”, 225
So anyway, is he a running back, wide receiver, or kick returner? Gibson was decent at each position a few years ago in community college. Two seasons ago, he saw little action in his first season as a Tiger. Then, 2019 happened. 38 receptions at 19 yards a catch with eight touchdowns. 33 carries at 11 yards per run and four touchdowns. 28 yards per return and one touchdown. How about his 4.39 40 speed? Explosive in all three phases – his versatility is scary good. Does Gibson remind Ron Rivera of Christian McCaffrey? Only one season of production hurts his stock, but Gibson would provide good value here.

Round Five: Colby Parkinson, TE, Stanford – 6’7”, 255
Looking for another sizable tight end? Look no further than Colby Parkinson. He can play the Y, H, and F positions effectively. Fundamentally sound blocker – good mechanics and flexibility, but needs to finish those blocks a bit better. Positions himself well between the defender and the quarterback. Excellent red zone and “jump ball” target. Did not drop a single pass in 2019. Slow 40 time (4.77) will limit his draft stock. In certain passing schemes, he can line up in the slot and outside for slants and various hook patterns. This versatility will keep him from dropping into the late rounds.
Other Possible Picks:
Jacob Breeland, TE, Oregon
Julian Blackmon, SS/FS, Utah
K.J. Hill, WR, Ohio St.
Antonio Gandy-Golden, WR, Liberty
Albert Okwuegbunam, TE, Missouri
Thad Moss, TE, LSU

Round Six: Possible Prospects
The Redskins lack a sixth round selection, but here is a list of players who could be targeted if they can acquire a pick in this round.
Mitchell Wilcox, TE, South Florida
Shaquille Quarterman, ILB, Miami
Charlie Heck, OT, North Carolina
Tanner Muse, FS/ILB/Hybrid, Clemson
Terence Steele, OT, Texas Tech
Joe Reed, WR, Virginia
Cheyenne O'Grady, TE, Arkansas

Round Seven: Myles Dorn, FS/SS, North Carolina – 6’2”, 205
Myles Dorn is a three year starter for the Tar Heels and that could serve him well at the next level. Prototypical size for a free safety, but a bit slender for a box player. He plays well closer to the line, but has varying degrees of success as a deep safety. Good speed, but can take poor angles further away from the line. Would need to make the team as a special teams player. Practice squad candidate.
Other Possible Picks:
Alex Taylor, OT, South Carolina St.
James Proche, WR, SMU
Jared Pinkney, TE, Vanderbilt
Trey Adams, OT, Washington
Reggie Floyd, FS, Virginia Tech
Steven Montez, QB, Colorado
Devin Asiasi, TE, UCLA
Tyre Phillips, OT/OG, Mississippi St.

Round Seven: Cameron Clark, OG/OT, North Carolina-Charlotte – 6’4”, 310
Cameron Clark is one of those hidden small school gems that has managed to gain only minimal notoriety as an NFL prospect. However, the Redskins seem to be very interested in his services. They had meetings with him at the East-West Shrine game and there was a virtual connection recently. Clark was considered by some to be a bit slender for an offensive linemen, but he has added thirty pounds of muscle in recent months. He dominated the line of scrimmage against Clemson early in the 2019 season. Some analysts believe Clark could be a guard at the next level, but don’t be surprised if he is a starting right tackle within a year or two.

Undrafted Free Agent Prospects
This list will continue to evolve and change in the coming weeks as the Redskins meet with many players who will not be drafted.

Gage Cervenka, OG, Clemson
Rico Dowdle, RB, South Carolina
Mohamed Barry, ILB, Nebraska
Jeremiah Dinson, FS, Auburn
Shea Patterson, QB, Michigan
Naquan Jones, DT, Michigan St.
John Penisini, DT, Utah
Robert Hunt, OG, Louisiana-Lafayette
John Hightower, WR, Boise St.
Riley Neal, QB, Vanderbilt
Keith Washington, CB, West Virginia
Charlie Taumoepeau, TE, Portland St.
Kelly Bryant, QB, Missouri
Jordan Glasgow, ILB/SS, Michigan
Lawrence Cager, WR, Georgia
Jabril Cox, ILB, North Dakota St.

Additional Notes
The fourth round comp pick comes from the deal that sent Jamison Crowder to the Jets. All other possible comp picks have been canceled out.

Free agency could continue to change some of the targets that we see in current mocks. For now, we can only speculate based on current team needs and pertinent information.

There is your third of three full mocks this week. We will have abbreviated mocks on Friday and Saturday. The draft is just hours away.

 

[Win4us]

At this point if we get anything better than a 4th for Trent I’d chalk it up as a win. And if his agent reps any more of our players, I’d put them on notice as well.

 

[Elephant]

BB, I gotta wonder what you're thinking is with TE. Most of this off-season we've been looking at mocks that have TE's.

The last one you only have a 5th round selection being used on TE. Do you think they try to slide Pittman into that role?

I'm not sure I want to go through another 5 years of a converted WR being our backup because he'd be a nightmare for defenses.

Is there a TE from a trade in the mix as we go into tonight's draft?