A Historical Look at the Origins of ExtremeSkins

[burgold]

Maybe, but we also have a lot of refugees who only left ES because it was taken away. I have enough fond memories that I don't want to protest at their funeral.

 

[Boone]

Praise Jesus - skinsinparadise finally found his way here, lol. Brother, apparently you have a lot of admirers…

 

[skinsmarydu]

Praise Jesus - skinsinparadise finally found his way here, lol. Brother, apparently you have a lot of admirers…

I saw he was on the other site this morning, and was gonna tell him that his presence was requested here, but didn't want to go the "poaching" route.

 

[Boone]

Anyone worth having from over there we wouldn’t need to poach, lol…

 

[Chris]

I saw he was on the other site this morning, and was gonna tell him that his presence was requested here, but didn't want to go the "poaching" route.

How refreshing! 👊

“If a tree were to fall on an island where there were no human beings would there be any sound?"

 

[skinsinparadise]

Thanks everyone. Found out about extremecommanders over the weekkend and enjoyed posting there over the last few days. I was also told some old members were here, so I figured it didn't hurt to engage on both sites.

 

[SkinsFTW]

It seemed like about 2-3 days after ES shut down people started showing up here and by the time the playoffs started almost everybody from ES was here except you and Commanderintherye.

I've always been on both sites but don't see the need to go anywhere else now since they closed down the other one.

 

[Chris]

Thanks everyone. Found out about extremecommanders over the weekkend and enjoyed posting there over the last few days. I was also told some old members were here, so I figured it didn't hurt to engage on both sites.

Might want to check this out…you know, for some context and such. 🙂

The History of BGObsession

Why did we create BGObsession.com and how did it come to pass? Well, that’s a bit of a long story,.. Many of you have read the ‘History of Extremeskins’ document which goes into great detail regarding the origins of that once great and groundbreaking forum. The founders of BGObsession first...

www.bgobsession.com

 

[Boone]

As always, folks are always free to hang wherever they like. We have enjoyed the influx of ES folks because we were ES folks

 

[Mark The Homer]

Maybe, but we also have a lot of refugees who only left ES because it was taken away. ...

To be clear, I left ES voluntarily. And now I'm here. You do the math.

 

[skinsmarydu]

To be clear, I left ES voluntarily. And now I'm here. You do the math.

I kinda noticed when you weren't around anymore. Same with burgold.

 

[burgold]

I kinda noticed when you weren't around anymore. Same with burgold.

WARNING! LONG SELF-INDULGANT RANT BELOW ABOUT THINGS LONG RESOLVED. FEEL FREE TO BYPASS.

Yeah, my exodus started with a ban that quickly became a choice. I was banned for using a direct quote with attribution inside quotation marks while following the ES protocol of not trying to avoid the profanity filter. It was a quote from Attorney General Barr discussing something political. It was pertinent and essential to the conversation. I admit when I woke up the next morning and found myself banned I was surprised. I had no idea what I did or what I could have done wrong. When I found out through some kind of auto-note, it bothered me. I still don't feel like I'd broken any rules and the mods never bothered discussing it with me, just cut me off, and basically said, "Kiss the ring if you want to come back. You can't post or even DM us until you do."

So, I decided to leave.

I have no problems apologizing or admitting error. It just struck me as if they were looking for a reason to oust me. I took it personally. I know others have dealt with worse, but it turned out that was enough for me.

Once I left, I never felt the desire to go back. It surprised me. I thought once we were winning I'd want to circle back and celebrate, but nope. It takes a lot to do something I can't rationalize or deal with, but they crossed that threshold. I suspect there were probably several other things accumulating over the years. For one, I hated the mega threads. I hated the idea that there were only three active threads going and people felt the need to apologize any time they started something new (I searched, but I couldn't find something on this so...) became the opening sentence of so many threads. Further, the megathreads seemed to make every discussion shallow and repetitive. Lastly, when I came to BGO even though it was during the worst of the Rivera run, I realized how hard the mood of the board had fallen. Everyone was despairing over there and groupthink created an environment where every blue note needed to be one-upped. I coined the Eeyore term long ago on ES, but it had gone so far beyond even Eeyore. I couldn't stand all these suicidally, depressed fans pretending their doomshouting was realism. Football and fandom is supposed to be fun. If the game isn't fun at least the tailgate ought to be. And maybe even more than being wronged, I think I just realized I couldn't take a place that had become some negative and so nervous.

There's probably some exageration in there, but once I start typing it's dangerous to try to stop

 

[Chris]

Even though actions or inactions by the team were ultimately responsible for the demise, the attitude and behavior of a few admins did as much damage to the ES brand as possible without having the nuclear option to blame.

Those that loved and valued the site did so because of relationships forged and developed over time, not because of over-management styles built on ego and power.

My soft-ban was a stupid and childish action taken by just such a character, one who I held absolutely zero respect for after decades of observation. The simple power-play condition that I needed to personally apologize for my valid and defendable critique was never going to happen. Not then, not ever.

 

[Ghost of Sarge]

Even though actions or inactions by the team were ultimately responsible for the demise, the attitude and behavior of a few admins did as much damage to the ES brand as possible without having the nuclear option to blame.

Those that loved and valued the site did so because of relationships forged and developed over time, not because of over-management styles built on ego and power.

My soft-ban was a stupid and childish action taken by just such a character, one who I held absolutely zero respect for after decades of observation. The simple power-play condition that I needed to personally apologize for my valid and defendable critique was never going to happen. Not then, not ever.

I wondered, after hearing of the sites demise, if someone from the front office had gotten on there and thought the power trip and subsequent reviews were something that they didn't want associated with the team. I still think it was a dick move for the team to just shut it down without giving folks time to say goodbye and get contact info from other posters though. I will say however that the irony and yes, karma, involved in seeing a couple of people get dethroned and in effect, banned from their own fiefdom is quite delicious.

 

[skinsmarydu]

Years ago, I got contact info from folks I loved...LSF, Taze, Chew. We're all still texting, and I'm good.

 

[Chris]

I wondered, after hearing of the sites demise, if someone from the front office had gotten on there and thought the power trip and subsequent reviews were something that they didn't want associated with the team. I still think it was a dick move for the team to just shut it down without giving folks time to say goodbye and get contact info from other posters though. I will say however that the irony and yes, karma, involved in seeing a couple of people get dethroned and in effect, banned from their own fiefdom is quite delicious.

I would say that if that were the case, it had less to do with the management style and more to do with not wanting association with the political discussions that were fairly dominant there.

 

[skinsmarydu]

I would say that if that were the case, it had less to do with the management style and more to do with not wanting association with the political discussions that were fairly dominant there.

Just out of curiosity, what do you mean by that?

 

[Chris]

Just out of curiosity, what do you mean by that?

I don’t think I can be clearer than I was. 🤷🏻‍♂️ It was in response to Sarge’s thoughts which I quoted. What do you want clarification on?

 

[burgold]

I suspect he feels that having a robust and contentious political conversation on a sports message board might worry team executives as the opinions may not reflect the team’s official stance or preference to appear apolitical.

That’s my guess anyhow. Lots of companies prefer not to wade into politics for fear of angering one side or the other.

 

[Chris]

As Micheal Jordan once said…”Republicans buy sneakers, too”.