2025 Commanders Transactions Thread

Fant is I think an indication Wylie is expected to play Guard more and won't be available as a swing tackle. Makes me a little worried about Coleman's injury, but at least they see enough with the rookie Conerly to move Wylie inside full time.

OT: Tunsil, Conerly, Fant
OG: Coleman, Wylie, Cosmi, Allegretti, Paul
C: Biadascz, Allegretti(?), who else has taken backup snaps?

Cause that's 10 players, but really only 9 as Cosmi is on PUP.

2 QB's, 9 OL, 4 TE, 4 RB, 5 WR, plus one extra spot for a 10th OL or 6th WR or maybe a 26th defender.
 
If we can’t trade him we will release him. Which makes it hard to understand why anyone would be willing to pick up his contract paying him $3M and change when he will available off the street for something closer to vet minimum pretty soon.

Only trade I can see happening is a trade for a player (Edge, DT or maybe LB) that another team has on the bubble and we do essentially a trade of contracts.
I agree with that, but I'm not even sure that's worth it. But maybe.

I thin Robinson also has to clear waivers.

So I guess there could be a world where a team low on the waiver order wants him and believes a team higher on the waiver order would snatch him, and offers a conditional 7th round pick in 2049 or something. That could be a reason, but the team would have to be convinced there was another team who would put in a waiver claim.

NOTE: I think BRob is going to get a job. Not a starting role, but a job. He might be what we would consider underwhelming, but he could find a role on some other team where they want a power back complement or something. He definitely deserves to be in the NFL. He's just not starter material.
 
Yeah BRob is okay at almost anything you would want a running back to do. He has decent size, speed, power, hands, etc., and he can handle a heavy workload, so I am sure there is a team that could use him to back up an injured starter.

The problem for us is that even if BRob is okay at everything, he is not great at anything. Average speed, average power, below average vision, average production: Consistently 700 yards and 4.0 yards a carry over three seasons. Our other backs just seem a better fit for Kliff’s offense and hopefully produce better too.

The problem for BRob is the running back market is relatively cold. He’ll get a job, but I doubt we get much in a trade, maybe a late round pick or another player on the roster bubble.
 
Yeah BRob is okay at almost anything you would want a running back to do. He has decent size, speed, power, hands, etc., and he can handle a heavy workload, so I am sure there is a team that could use him to back up an injured starter.

The problem for us is that even if BRob is okay at everything, he is not great at anything. Average speed, average power, below average vision, average production: Consistently 700 yards and 4.0 yards a carry over three seasons. Our other backs just seem a better fit for Kliff’s offense and hopefully produce better too.

The problem for BRob is the running back market is relatively cold. He’ll get a job, but I doubt we get much in a trade, maybe a late round pick or another player on the roster bubble.
I don't think we'll get anything in a trade.

I think he'll get a job, though. Which I'm happy about. I have no ill will towards him.

If Jay was in the league he would make him his feature back and run Duo with him on ever first down for an entire season for a 1.2 yard average. Pity for BRob the league figured out Jay was a fraud.
 
I cannot believe Birdbox Robinson is generating interest. I believe the reporting, just very surprised. Still don’t expect much return.

In the same segment he also mentions could be released so it feels less compelling when I heard the whole thing. If there is such demand how can a release be in the cards, too?
 
This screams like somebody from the Commander's PR department slipped Garafolo a $10 spot under the table and said "say something to help us drum up interest."

Anybody who watches film would know why Robinson fell out of favor, and anybody who looks at any analytics would have it doubly confirmed.
All of these guys have groups of people who do two things (pretty much all, now) - analytics, and watch tape.

There are plenty of bad analytics now on BRob, that is true. I think there are some good stats too, not all of it is bad (from memory). However, on tape, I think there are some things you can glean from it that are definitely positive, and point to issues in playcalling. I think there is still a largely held belief around the league that BRob is very capable. A lot of these guys can look at some simple things:
- number of carries, and timing of carries, per game
- per game performance

Generally see a trend that when BRob's usage is in a certain tier and flow, he performs well above average. We almost never hit that last year, with JD and the offense structured how it was. He simply isn't a good fit here. On top of that, on my personal side, his public quotes have really rubbed me the wrong way. I hate it when guys who aren't part of the main engine feel a need to give other teams bulletin board material, and he's done that multiple times. I generally dislike it, but hate it more when it's guys who generally don't have a big role in the wins.

I still remember, I'm sure all of you do too, when BRob was given like 50 carries by Scott to beat the undefeated Eagles a few years back. His usage was so sporadic and generally low, they were caught off guard, and BRob was more than up to the task. I think stuff like that can stick in people's minds, it's really good tape, and BRob has generally never had anything remotely consistently close to that here. So, there are arguments. Now, they just need to find a willing trade partner. This is, in my mind, a great move by AP.
 
I don't see how Chris Paul makes this roster AGAIN. This is a guy like Reed Doughty that managed to hang on for 4 or 5 years despite being just short of awful every time he had to go in and play regular snaps during the season.

The one caveat on Doughty was that he was a solid special teams players while Paul is simply filling a uniform.

When he was last in uniform in 2023 for a stretch of games, Chris Paul was the LOWEST rated guard by PFF at 37.1.

That is 20 points below replacement level.
 
Yeah BRob is okay at almost anything you would want a running back to do. He has decent size, speed, power, hands, etc., and he can handle a heavy workload, so I am sure there is a team that could use him to back up an injured starter.

The problem for us is that even if BRob is okay at everything, he is not great at anything. Average speed, average power, below average vision, average production: Consistently 700 yards and 4.0 yards a carry over three seasons. Our other backs just seem a better fit for Kliff’s offense and hopefully produce better too.

The problem for BRob is the running back market is relatively cold. He’ll get a job, but I doubt we get much in a trade, maybe a late round pick or another player on the roster bubble.

I think the other backs are simply better. I don't think its so much Brian is a power back, and they want more explosion considering Rodriguez IMO (and others opinion including Logan Paulsen) isn't as explosive as Brian. But Rodriguez is a better power back IMO. But I do like that they are spinning that he's just not a fit -- you want to elevate his trade value.

 
And let the bidding war commence........hopefully.
One of the many goofy things of the Rivera tenure was where Rivera (and sometimes Mayhew) would come out and say "Oh yeah we need to run that ball" and then Scott would call 13 running plays.

That would happen so many times within the year, offseason, you name it. Constant talk about running the ball, lots of autonomy to the OC, and the OC just calls pass after pass.

Then bring in EB and... yeah.

This move is one of the most exciting and interesting to me. Taking a guy who I think smart GMs can see some value in - I don't think we were able to showcase it well, but that is known - they are going to swoop in and take a flier on a guy who "could have" talent. He could bust for them, and he could look good for them - I don't think he is a lost cause and I think the league knows that. This is a great move to get some value for a guy who isn't a good fit in multiple ways here. Try to get real value for a guy while he still has some value. I think going through last year, seeing the fit, and then making this move - it makes a ton of sense. So good to see!

I also like CRod for his power; I also felt that CRod made BRob more expendable, agree with skinsinparadise - although I probably haven't seen it as much as I'd like, I was definitely curious how CRod would have looked in some of those situations last year where we needed 2 or 3 and we got 1 or 2 with BRob.
 
So - yesterday it was pointed out that this is the Commanders Transaction Thread. I get that BRob may be involved in an impending transaction, but I think this was intended to be a bit of a ‘breaking news’ thread for actual transactions.

Don’t be afraid to start a new thread folks. It would’ve been perfectly appropriate to start a ‘Brian Robinson Trade Rumors’ thread instead of hijacking this thread or other threads. Just saying.
 

Send them BRob and Terry for Tyreek Hill straight up?

Things that make you go hmmm….

EDIT: and I’m the one who commented this was more of a breaking news thread and I failed to follow my own advice.

How embarrassing…
 
I don't see how Chris Paul makes this roster AGAIN. This is a guy like Reed Doughty that managed to hang on for 4 or 5 years despite being just short of awful every time he had to go in and play regular snaps during the season.

The one caveat on Doughty was that he was a solid special teams players while Paul is simply filling a uniform.

When he was last in uniform in 2023 for a stretch of games, Chris Paul was the LOWEST rated guard by PFF at 37.1.

That is 20 points below replacement level.
I disagree. Your description best fits Trent Scott, Dieter and a few others to me. I've focused on Paul and he's been solid when called up, his issue is mobility but he's strong as an ox. I could only pull '24 PFF grades and he was 60.
 
So - yesterday it was pointed out that this is the Commanders Transaction Thread. I get that BRob may be involved in an impending transaction, but I think this was intended to be a bit of a ‘breaking news’ thread for actual transactions.

Don’t be afraid to start a new thread folks. It would’ve been perfectly appropriate to start a ‘Brian Robinson Trade Rumors’ thread instead of hijacking this thread or other threads. Just saying.

BRob thread started 🫡
 
Someone who can snap the ball…


With any luck this means bye bye Dieter. Not that I have anything specifically against Dieter. Except when he played last year he couldn't, you know, play.
 
With any luck this means bye bye Dieter. Not that I have anything specifically against Dieter. Except when he played last year he couldn't, you know, play.
Yeah, C depth has been one of my few remaining concerns, so hopefully Harris represents an upgrade. I noticed they had Good-Jones (a guard I heard they liked from last year) in at center vs Cincy… but then he botched that snap to Johnson. Whoops.
 

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