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    The report that snyder wont stop shanahan from sitting griffin.

    Otherwise no, just more nonsense to add onto the preexisting nonsense.
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    Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog's Twin View Post
    The Special Teams under Keith Burns may be the worst in Redskins' history.
    Football outsiders does a detailed study of special teams. Every year since 1989 they've rated the special teams of every team.

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamst

    This is their methodology:

    This page lists an estimate of how many points, compared to league average, each team receives from the five elements of special teams: field goals/extra points, kickoffs, kick returns, punts, punt returns. The total is then converted into a DVOA percentage so that it can be added in to offense and defense to create total team DVOA.
    Throughout the years the worst DVOA in the league falls somewhere between -5% and -7%. Sometimes it's gone as low as -9%. Only twice since 1989 has it been even lower than that:

    In 2000, the Buffalo Bills' special teams were at -15.5%
    In 2013, the Washington Redskins' special teams are at -14.3%

    Our special teams aren't just bad. They are historically bad. As in top five worst ever in the history of the game kinda bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tr1 View Post
    I'm guessing Mike Wise is not invited to Dan Snyder's holiday party this year.
    Would you really want to go to the kind of party Mike Wise is invited to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tr1 View Post
    I'm guessing Mike Wise is not invited to Dan Snyder's holiday party this year.
    I have a feeling it's not a very big guest list.
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    So this is where we are. A coach trying to get fired from a team he doesn't want to work for. An owner trying to avoid firing the coach he doesn't want. A quarterback, in just his second year of professional football, staring the possibility of a confidence-shattering, development-retarding, fan-alienating, three-game benching in the face. And everything is being played out in the media through anonymous sniping and backstabbing. Forget Robert Griffin's on-field struggles: This is how you run an unsuccessful football team.

    RGIII Is A Pawn In The Dan Snyder-Mike Shanahan Standoff
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    More leaks today too I see.

    I wonder if all of this really isn't good for business. The team has become like a wreck on the side of the road that everyone slows down to watch. It's the same reason that at least some of the population watches NASCAR--to see the wrecks.

    I'm not sure that winning is even the main desire in the minds of some fans anymore. It's the reality tv show element that keeps people watching. We're the official Honey Boo Boo of the NFL.

    Neither Tampa nor Buffalo do well on the field. They're boring. No one wants to watch boring, and they have a hard time selling tickets. That's not the case here.
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    Can't remember if it was here or somewhere else I saw mention of Lovie Smith as a candidate. I'm leaning toward wanting a solid D again rather than someone like the Baylor dude.
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    Weeks ago, an observer with connections in the Washington Redskins’ locker room described the heart murmur plaguing the club in the following way: “Ask yourself this: If Mike Shanahan wants to bench Robert Griffin III, can he?” The fact that there was even a doubt suggested the illness. Shanahan is now calling the question publicly, and he’s right to do so, because if he can’t bench Griffin, then he’s not really the head coach, and in fact no one will ever be Griffin’s coach, they’ll just be his concierges.
    I asked that question at the start of the season, and pointed that out. :\

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports...ee6_story.html
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    I'm calling bullshit on the Snyder was behind the scenes with Griffin and this is what caused the massive across the board collapse of the team.The team hasn't been anything resembling a success story since coach Mike took over outside of last season. All off season Coach Mike was being second guessed by the fan's and the media in the way he used Robert Griffin and how he should have known better yada yada. I think it twisted Shanny up and he's been out of his depth handling the injury transition for Griffin.I think he's in a no win situation expectations are high but what if Griffin gets hurt again? That doesn't explain why our O Line played so poorly in every single game. In fact this years team never had more than 2 good quarters in any game played this season. Defense? Special teams? all the same story....it's a hot topic every statement will be over analyzed. Bottom line coaches are in place to keep this from happening.Where was Coach Mike?
    Quote Originally Posted by tshile View Post
    I asked that question at the start of the season, and pointed that out. :\

    Washington Redskins are being undermined by Dan Snyder?s corrosive star culture - The Washington Post
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    I read an interesting article earlier about the Redskins Park Circus. The writer made an interesting point about Bruce Allen. He stated he was supposed to be the new sheriff and be the go between with the team and Snyder. Where is he in all this? Why hasn't he done something to diffuse the situation and keep it in house? Allen is not the clueless dummy that Vinny was.

    In all the years that I have followed this team....this has to be one of the lowest points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riggins44 View Post
    I read an interesting article earlier about the Redskins Park Circus. The writer made an interesting point about Bruce Allen. He stated he was supposed to be the new sheriff and be the go between with the team and Snyder. Where is he in all this? Why hasn't he done something to diffuse the situation and keep it in house? Allen is not the clueless dummy that Vinny was.

    In all the years that I have followed this team....this has to be one of the lowest points.
    For all we know he might be. Things might be significantly better now than they would have been if he wasn't here. Given Snyder's track record there's no telling what he would do in response to being instigated by Shanahan.
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    All things being equal, one would prefer the owner of a professional football team not be openly chummy with or preferentially treat the star quarterback. But the notion that such a relationship would be the root cause of the colossal trainwreck that has become of the Mike Shanahan era, with its utter failure of a defense, the historical incompetence of its special teams, its utter lack of on-field professionalism across the board, and a salary cap penalty that badly damaged its ability to shore up key undermanned positions, is nauseatingly myopic.
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    Eschew obfuscation.

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    Just a what if thought but say this whole circus is kind of an "act". Something like Dan realized Shan and company just weren't cutting it and pretty much told him it isn't gonna work from here on out. Maybe Dan let this chummy with the qb roll out of respect for Shan (at least his past) & lord knows Dan is used to criticism.

    Just a thought cause this whole thing seems far fetched with a coach getting pissed about his qb talking to the owner. I think Shan lost the team and Dan is possibly taking heat for the hire in his own way.

    Or maybe I just need some meds cause this team drove me crazy?
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    I think I may have found my new sig.

    Staying Medium: Snyder, Shanahan, and finally reaching the point of despair

    Uncharacteristically, this current situation has not provoked me to spend any time thinking about who the next coach should be, or which positions should be drafted or signed to fix this roster, or what the odds are of Robert Griffin III getting his career back on track. I find myself not caring. I have been obsessed with this team since I was old enough to know they exist. I have never not cared before. It is a disconcerting feeling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    I'm afraid that sums it up for me as well. Sad.
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    The hiring of a coach before a true GM and personnel man will result in the same mediocrity we have seen since Norv was fired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog's Twin View Post
    The hiring of a coach before a true GM and personnel man will result in the same mediocrity we have seen since Norv was fired.
    We already have a GM--AJ Smith. Does he suck? Probably. Unless you believe Snyder's going to buy out his contract too, he is the GM.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lanky Livingston View Post
    Great idea. I love this guy. I may be able to help him.
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