The 2025 Draft Thread

I've seen Golden drop to us pretty often. Also see him just outside the top 10.

I wonder if McMillian might drop to 29. Would probably mean a big DB run before us unfortunately.

That would be a great pick though.

Always surprises on draft day versus the mocks. I think among them: Golden, Stewart, Barron, Starks, Hampton, Emmanwori I think could end up as droppers. Some mock and or we are hearing this from scouts material is giving me that impression.

If those guys drop. I'd still trade down. But if I couldn't, I'd go Stewart for reasons I'll explain in a subsequent post. If not him Golden. If not Golden, then Barron.

Trying to think who Ron would take at 29 if he were here? Maybe K. Winston? He loves those dark horse chic this dude most have him in the 2nd but an outlier or two could see him sneak into the first. Or maybe Mason Taylor? and don't get me wrong I like both players but the narratives would fit the Ron way.
 
I think some players that on the rise up to the end of the 1st round that could be taken there are: Treyvon Henderson, RB, Ohio State, Benjamin Morrison, CB, Notre Dame and Jayden Higgins, WR, Iowa State. Some have thought about it but can you imagine the Jayden to Jayden connection? We need an EDGE desperately but AP starts draft cooking on Thursday night or maybe even before.
 
I think some players that on the rise up to the end of the 1st round that could be taken there are: Treyvon Henderson, RB, Ohio State, Benjamin Morrison, CB, Notre Dame and Jayden Higgins, WR, Iowa State. Some have thought about it but can you imagine the Jayden to Jayden connection? We need an EDGE desperately but AP starts draft cooking on Thursday night or maybe even before.
I want an explosive offense. The problem is I also want a dominating defense. We don't have enough picks this year for both. Hopefully the roster will be very solid in 54 weeks. 3 years to get out of RR's drafts??? AP and DQ inherited a roster nearly devoid of talent.
 
4 days to go gents. Thank you very much for your contributions!
Amen to that. So glad I came across this board with all the informative discussion and wealth of personal takes from guys with personal knowledge from meeting players, insiders, etc. special thanks to those who are taking time to watch film and share what they are seeing. For an ordinary fan like myself this really enhances my understanding of what’s happening more than any of the media websites, and I suspect there are a lot more like me lurking around here.

Really appreciate it.
 
I want an explosive offense. The problem is I also want a dominating defense. We don't have enough picks this year for both. Hopefully the roster will be very solid in 54 weeks. 3 years to get out of RR's drafts??? AP and DQ inherited a roster nearly devoid of talent.
You know the old adage, "Rome wasn't built in a day" and same with the Commanders roster. As we know, It will take time for AP and DQ to do it and to be able to see them get to where they got last year was a blessing. Most of that was due in part to great FA moves by AP, team building and great coaching leadership by DQ and some of those vet free agents. Last but surely not least was Jayden Daniels.
 
OK I hate to go with the hipster Chris Simms on some picks. But I think am closer to him with his off beat takes on Shemar Stewart and M. Starks. In short, I agree with him that Starks is solid but not spectacular and the idea of him dropping to the 2nd seems justified.

He's higher on Stewart than some. I am too after watching him. Worse case, you got a high floor run stopper who hustles. Yeah he's raw as a pass rusher where he basically bull rushes often. But he's genuinely disruptive right now in spite of that. He's sort of like Montez Sweat before his breakout season where he was close to getting sacks but didn't close.

But in short he's a handful to deal with it. He gets double teamed a lot. And this on a D line with Scourton and S. Turner. Yet the focus is often on stopping him. I posted two clips below where he's doubled team yet they still had the RB chip him, so basically three guys on him.

Does he fulfill his potential? I don't know. But you can see the twitchiness when watching him. For example, JT Tuimoloau is another really good run stopper. And is a better pass rusher than Stewart but watching JT he's mostly a dude who hustles for sacks and I like that but not that twitchy.

If you think about who they've interviewed. Most are high floor run stoppers aside from Ezeriuaku. JT, Oladejo, Scourton, Landon Jackson all of that ilk. But if we are swinging for upside in this group, this one to me is the clear upside play with little downside. Like I said at worst he ends up a great run stopper who brings pressure but doesn't close. Scourton has some pass rushing moves, not that twitchy but is consistent. I watched more Oladejo. I think he's similar to JT in that his sacks come from motor-hustle and is really good against the run. I do think 61 is decent value for him. I wouldn't take him earlier.

Landon Jackson plays with his hair on fire. And clearly judging by his combine he's a good athlete but plays a bit upright and doesn't look bendy. But still good player. Bringing this to playing the Eagles, Landon among these guys might be my favorite as far chasing RBs down the field. The Eagles like freaks on the D line. If Stewart drops to them, I have a hard time seeing them passing on him.

In short, I've watched many of these CBs this weekend. The edges excite me more early. Maybe with the exception of Hairston.

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Ferguson was the first TE I mentioned here. I think he's good value in the 4th, don't love him the more I watch him. Needs to be more physical at the catch point IMO. But otherwise jack of all trades, master of none, high floor #2 type IMO.

In that range, I'd roll the dice on Fannin over Ferguson. Though Fannin might go earlier. Fannin hits me as boom-bust but he's an intriguing roll of the dice as a seperator-YAC guy.

I watched some Gadsden. He to me is more of Johnny Wilson clone, an oversized WR, versus a TE. His frame just doesn't hit me as a TE, its not his weight but he lacks that thick frame. If they like that fit at slot, I can roll with it. But he to me looks like a WR not a TE.
As to Ferguson, I'd say you are spot on to how I saw him, higher floor do everything #2.

I do find Fannin intriguing but is definitely more boom or bust type and I don't want to take that risk. I'd go Fergy in the 4th if I wanted a TE there.

If I wished to take a risk an a TE for the pass game in later rounds, I felt Gadsen would be worth the look in the 6th or 7th. Now he isn't going to be a great help in he blocking game but could add an interesting addition especially in a slot type situation with his height and wingspan along with in the red-zone, throw it high and he will catch it type.
 
Always surprises on draft day versus the mocks. I think among them: Golden, Stewart, Barron, Starks, Hampton, Emmanwori I think could end up as droppers. Some mock and or we are hearing this from scouts material is giving me that impression.

If those guys drop. I'd still trade down. But if I couldn't, I'd go Stewart for reasons I'll explain in a subsequent post. If not him Golden. If not Golden, then Barron.

Trying to think who Ron would take at 29 if he were here? Maybe K. Winston? He loves those dark horse chic this dude most have him in the 2nd but an outlier or two could see him sneak into the first. Or maybe Mason Taylor? and don't get me wrong I like both players but the narratives would fit the Ron way.
You know SIP, it seems like a sickness thinking of what Ron would do...hahahaha just kidding. Always good to run the opposite way of whatever Ron would
 
I think some players that on the rise up to the end of the 1st round that could be taken there are: Treyvon Henderson, RB, Ohio State, Benjamin Morrison, CB, Notre Dame and Jayden Higgins, WR, Iowa State. Some have thought about it but can you imagine the Jayden to Jayden connection? We need an EDGE desperately but AP starts draft cooking on Thursday night or maybe even before.
This draft is going to be bonkers. One like we haven't seen with boards all over the place. Any of those guys could easily go at the end of the first or later into the second.

I don't see Edge as a desperate need. I don't think we have a desperate need but we do have some more distinct needs of which Edge is one.
 
This draft is going to be bonkers. One like we haven't seen with boards all over the place. Any of those guys could easily go at the end of the first or later into the second.

I don't see Edge as a desperate need. I don't think we have a desperate need but we do have some more distinct needs of which Edge is one.
We do have distinct needs but Armstrong isn't a homerun at DE/EDGE thus, I think a true EDGE is sorely needed. Will see how AP does on Thursday night. Always appreciate your feedback, DW.
 
We do have distinct needs but Armstrong isn't a homerun at DE/EDGE thus, I think a true EDGE is sorely needed. Will see how AP does on Thursday night. Always appreciate your feedback, DW.
If we came out of the draft without a pass-rusher, we would both be extremely disappointed :cheers:
 
If we came out of the draft without a pass-rusher, we would both be extremely disappointed :cheers:
So true. We only know AP from being at the helm for one year. There's much more to learn in year two and beyond.
 
Wow sure feels like AP is debating drafting a K late, unless preparing for if these guys don't get drafted. The draft 2 kickers they brought in should get drafted late day 3 though.
 
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Wow sure feels like AP is debating drafting a K late, unless preparing for if these guys don't get drafted. The draft 2 kickers they brought in should get drafted late day 3 though.
Seems like a lot of homework and time has been spent with both the top 2 K's in Borregales and Fitzgerald. With limited picks and needs I keep thinking tradedown or tradedowns.
 
Always surprises on draft day versus the mocks. I think among them: Golden, Stewart, Barron, Starks, Hampton, Emmanwori I think could end up as droppers. Some mock and or we are hearing this from scouts material is giving me that impression.

If those guys drop. I'd still trade down. But if I couldn't, I'd go Stewart for reasons I'll explain in a subsequent post. If not him Golden. If not Golden, then Barron.

Trying to think who Ron would take at 29 if he were here? Maybe K. Winston? He loves those dark horse chic this dude most have him in the 2nd but an outlier or two could see him sneak into the first. Or maybe Mason Taylor? and don't get me wrong I like both players but the narratives would fit the Ron way.
If Omarion Hampton is there and your choices are Barron or Stewart, I would definitely go Hampton. Dude is a stud. It would send a signal that we are serious about competing with the Eagles.
 
If Omarion Hampton is there and your choices are Barron or Stewart, I would definitely go Hampton. Dude is a stud. It would send a signal that we are serious about competing with the Eagles.

It'd be a tough call leaning go for it but I like DT Stewart brother far more than the Edge Stewart.
 
Kicker at 205 me thinks. Can pick probably the best one in the draft. Solve that problem.
 

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